Originally posted by jinzin
second wolverine wasn't trying to hurt spidey.....
Who would have guessed there could be so much difference between comics ? Guess you have the children-edition.
Originally posted by Creshosk
It's more logical to use all of one or another source of information. Rather than picking and choosing what pieces of information you choose to listen to.
How do you explain that in one comic, Wolverine survives a nuke, and in another he almost gets killed by a non-powered old man (Shingen), who happens to be pretty good in karate and sword fighting ?
How come you see Wolverine jumping 20 feet high without the slightest effort in one (old) crossover, but in his own series, he walks the stairs just like you and me ?
How come Captain America can knock him back with his fists (you can almost see Wolverine flying through the air), and in another comic, Wolverine takes punches from Namor - who is at least 50 times stronger than CA ?
You need other examples ? I got plenty.
=> Now, anybody with a bit of common sense and knowledge of comics, knows some of these things are just crap writing - I hope nobody will argue about this. But to accept everything - even the things that are clearly contradicting themselves - is just stupid. That's for sheep.
Originally posted by whobdamandogBecause death is the only option. . .
This battle is still going on..who would of thought...oh well here's just one more tidbit of information for all you trio fanboys...spidey was rejected by death in Spider Man 17. So guess what..none of the trio will be able to kill him..he is now immortal..their end of debate..
Originally posted by who?-kidWe already know that comics are consistant. But if you're going to argue real world physiology and anatomy then why do you simply discard the parts of that that disagree with your arguments?
And that's where you wrong.
"Human anatomy can't survive a 10 ton punch!"
And yet it can survive radiation in a large enough quantity to alter DNA?
Funny, I thought real world anatomy doesed in radiation developed into cancer. 😐
Comic book anatomy results in a wide variety of different powers. 😕 so I guess they don't HAVE human anatomys. 😐
Originally posted by Creshosk
We already know that comics are consistant. But if you're going to argue real world physiology and anatomy then why do you simply discard the parts of that that disagree with your arguments?"Human anatomy can't survive a 10 ton punch!"
And yet it can survive radiation in a large enough quantity to alter DNA?
Funny, I thought real world anatomy doesed in radiation developed into cancer. 😐
Comic book anatomy results in a wide variety of different powers. 😕 so I guess they don't HAVE human anatomys. 😐
Suspension of disbelief only goes so far....case in point Spider Man being rejected by death..Spider Man beating Firelord..etc...what's the point of debating..if there isn't some semblance of logic or standards to what your debating by.
Point being based on the scenario described by the thread originator.....
Originally posted by Matches Malone
Everyone uses their usual weapons and abilities. Spiderman will use any means necessary to take out this team, the trio will do the same towards Spiderman. Who wins?
Wolverine is not usually seen jumping 3 freaking stories in the air...
Spider Man is not usually seen defeating freaking cosmic heralds...
Captain America is not usually seen moving faster than bullets...
A majority of the times..within the comic book universe..these characters are shown displaying normal limitations to their powers and abilities..the only time you get some ridiculous portrayal of the character is in a crossover battle..and this is usually done to make the story more interesting and entertaining to the fans..(I mean who would really want to see SM web up Wolverine in 2 panels..or see Spider Man avoid everything that comes at him due to his spider sense...Or Cap win every single battle.)
Originally posted by whobdamandogAnd its dangerous when people suspend their disbeilf so far as to dress up like a character and jump off a building thinking you can fly.
Suspension of disbelief only goes so far....case in point Spider Man being rejected by death..Spider Man beating Firelord..etc...what's the point of debating..if there isn't some semblance of logic or standards to what your debating by.
If you're going to suspend your disbeleif to allow superpowers to come into play in the first place, you should probably suspend them enough to assume normal anatomy doesn't factor into these fights in the first place. 😐
Collosus hit Wolverine with a 70 ton punch knocking him to the floor, but he was still concious. Collosus was 7 times stronger than Spiderman at that point.
Wolverine has taken alot and not been knocked out. Why is it logical to assume that when he's up against Spiderman he can't take the hits?
Originally posted by ZahitWhat I'm saying is that Wolverine has taken heavy hits before.
You call this logical...?
Hell his first appearence was as an antagonist to the hulk.
You tell me what's more logical, something that happens the majority of the time or something that happens the minority of the time.
It's logical to assume that just because it's spiderman, Wolvie suddenly can't take the hits he's been taking?
Originally posted by Creshosk
And its dangerous when people suspend their disbeilf so far as to dress up like a character and jump off a building thinking you can fly.If you're going to suspend your disbeleif to allow superpowers to come into play in the first place, you should probably suspend them enough to assume normal anatomy doesn't factor into these fights in the first place. 😐
Collosus hit Wolverine with a 70 ton punch knocking him to the floor, but he was still concious. Collosus was 7 times stronger than Spiderman at that point.
Wolverine has taken alot and not been knocked out. Why is it logical to assume that when he's up against Spiderman he can't take the hits?
Your only using one extreme..Wolverine has also been shown more often than not..to be taken down by a simple kicks/punches by street level people before, as has Cap and DD. In fact..most characters have been shown to be defeated by people that are waaay below them..Superman get's owned by Toyman for Cripes sake..and any of these combatants can take down the Toyman...so does that mean that they could take down Superman? Try to be logical bud..
Originally posted by whobdamandogYour spidersense is kicking in there. Spiderman is fighting at his best, yet the trio are fighting at a level where they get taken down by street thugs?
Your only using one extreme..Wolverine has also been shown more often than not..to be taken down by a simple kicks/punches by street level people before, as has Cap and DD. In fact..most characters have been shown to be defeated by people that are waaay below them..Superman get's owned by Toyman for Cripes sake..and any of these combatants can take down the Toyman...so does that mean that they could take down Superman...be logical bud..
You consistantly give spiderman advantages he doesn't have and I get called the fanboy for not bowing down and worshiping Spidey's crotch? 🤨
Originally posted by whobdamandogNo they aren't.
lol..doesn't matter..all combatants fighting at their best..and all ridiculous plot elements a side..the 3 Trio are not in the same physical category as SM...to state that they are is highly unfactual...and well..fanboyish...
They also have differnt powers and do different things.