Originally posted by Creshosk
Not all of those were from the crossover. 😐Man it's getting easier to identify who's not worth talking to.
WOlverine is shown jumping really high multiple time, suddenly he can't because it tajkes away an advatage Spidey has? 😕
Or did you not know that ?
"WOlverine is shown jumping really high multiple time, suddenly he can't because it tajkes away an advatage Spidey has? "
😂 exactly....
"Wolverine can not jump that high. Period. Or are you really accepting EVERYTHING you see ?"
In COMIC BOOKS? there's absolutely no reason not too.........how the **** ould I be able to read comic books in the first place if I didn't accept the way things were in them......just cause you don't like it it didn't happen right?
"If Spider-Man would jump over the Empire State Building, would you accept it too ?"
IF he was capible of it.....but he hasn't.....no worries over here.
Originally posted by jinzin
In COMIC BOOKS? there's absolutely no reason not too.........how the **** ould I be able to read comic books in the first place if I didn't accept the way things were in them......just cause you don't like it it didn't happen right?
But really, I beg you on my knees, do not make me count all the times - so many, so many, so many - I saw Wolverine climbing something... why didn't he jump the obstacles ?
But I guess we can throw ALL that away because Wolverine (aka the character with the most inconsistent powers ever) jumped at a sentinel in a crossover (crossover aka lame).
Yes indeed, sounds logical to me. Clear as crystal.
"But really, I beg you on my knees, do not make me count all the times - so many, so many, so many - I saw Wolverine climbing something... why didn't he jump the obstacles"
hmmmm you mean like how wolverine's consistantly handed spiderman his ass....but you choose to ignore it......? hmmmmm not...gonna.....happen....
anyways.....here's the thing......if I'm not to just believe that these characters are capible....then hopw can I believe they exist.....you think it's logical for radiation to do anything other than give cancer to people? or help cancer patients? really I'd like to know...... do you think that mutants are really capible of superpowers?
something I just realized stan lee always used to refer to us as "true believers"........what then does that make you?
Originally posted by jinzin
"But really, I beg you on my knees, do not make me count all the times - so many, so many, so many - I saw Wolverine climbing something... why didn't he jump the obstacles"hmmmm you mean like how wolverine's consistantly handed spiderman his ass....but you choose to ignore it......? hmmmmm not...gonna.....happen....
anyways.....here's the thing......if I'm not to just believe that these characters are capible....then hopw can I believe they exist.....you think it's logical for radiation to do anything other than give cancer to people? or help cancer patients? really I'd like to know...... do you think that mutants are really capible of superpowers?
something I just realized stan lee always used to refer to us as "true believers"........what then does that make you?
But hey, if you want to believe everything you read, that's fine by me. So Wolverine can beat Lobo, and can take a nuke, and Spider-Man can beat Firelord, and Storm can beat Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by who?-kidThe thing about the company crossovers is, was that marvel universe 616? If so why didn't we ever see Jubilee pining for Robin?
That's not an answer.But hey, if you want to believe everything you read, that's fine by me. So Wolverine can beat Lobo, and can take a nuke, and Spider-Man can beat Firelord, and Storm can beat Wonder Woman.
Instead we see her going after Ev for a while.
Remember in at least two dimensions Wolverine is lord of the vampires. . . 😂
But those are alternate realities.
Originally posted by jinzin
hmmmm you mean like how wolverine's consistantly handed spiderman his ass....but you choose to ignore it......? hmmmmm not...gonna.....happen....
Yeah, I like to ignore those lol.
Typical Wolverine fan : Hah, Spider-Man doesn't have the power to hurt Wolverine, anything Spider-Man will do will have no affect whatsoever."
Yeah, I sure saw that in Avengers lol. It took Spider-Man only three punches, but I have to be honest : I thought it would have taken him only two.
"You mean like in the one time Spider-Man backhanded Wolverine like he was just a nuisance ?"
when wolverine wasn't hostile towards him.....guess you're ignoring the time wolverine backhanded spidey and sent him into a wall huh?
"Or in the one time they fought to a draw ?"
yeah....a "draw" where spiderman gave his all...and wolverine held back......nice draw there....not that spidey could have done anything at the end of that fight anyways......
"Or when Wolverine was webbed up by Spider-Man (Marvel Knights if I am not mistaken) ?"
immediately followed up by him tearing himself free and stabbing spidey right in the gut....
"Or the one time when Wolverine accidentally stabbed Spider-Man and was in return being kicked around by Spider-Man while he was on his knees ?"
you mean while he was taking shots from a pissed off spiderman while covering up not fighting back and apologizing......let me ask you something....who ended up passing out by the end of that and who was on their feet making fun of a certain book worm?.....
Originally posted by who?-kidwhen was this exactly?
You mean like in the one time Spider-Man backhanded Wolverine like he was just a nuisance?
This the roof top fight where Spidey pummeled wolvering (destroying a brick wall in the process.) Wolverine stood up and said "come to papa". Same fight where wolverine sent spiderman flying into a wall?
Originally posted by who?-kidCemetary scene another spidey on wolverine pummeling(destroying the tombstone) wolverine smiles, tackles spiderman and has his claws ready to pop through spidey's head and spidey is ready to try and break wolverine's neck that's protected by adamantium laced bones?
Or in the one time they fought to a draw ?
Originally posted by who?-kidand more reacently when wolverine broke free and accidently stabbed spidey?
Or when Wolverine was webbed up by Spider-Man (Marvel Knights if I am not mistaken) ?
Originally posted by who?-kidWolverine accidently stabbed spiderman, can you imagine if he had been trying? Wolverine was crouching to weather Spiderman's fury. when Spiderman stopped, Wolverine got up and shrugged it off like the beating didn't happen.
Or the one time when Wolverine accidentally stabbed Spider-Man and was in return being kicked around by Spider-Man while he was on his knees ?
Originally posted by who?-kidNo, you like to misinterpret them.
Yeah, I like to ignore those lol.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Typical Wolverine fan : Hah, Spider-Man doesn't have the power to hurt Wolverine, anything Spider-Man will do will have no affect whatsoever."
As opposed to a typical spiderman fan that ignores anything that happens that makes spiderman look bad and extolls on anything that makes him look good? Misinterpreting things that actually make him look bad into things that make him look good?
Or the ones that pick and choose what information from sets of information they listen to and ignore anything from the same infromation that goes against their argument?
Originally posted by who?-kidAnd wolverine took them like nothing happened.
Yeah, I sure saw that in Avengers lol. It took Spider-Man only three punches, but I have to be honest : I thought it would have taken him only two.
He wasn't ko'd he was just letting Spiderman vent.
he's reffering to this......secret wars....I mean it doesn't matter that wolverine...nor any of the x-men for that matter are trying to not hurt spidey but capture him.....also in every other wolverine vs. spidey encounter (they don't count cause they're bad writing but this is the gospel)
funny though....I mean nightcrawler not just teleporing out of the webbing....yep that's hardcore good writing....
anyways in the same book a wolverine who was actually trying literally ran through absorbing man like he wasn't even there.......almost killed beyonder......and in one panal....was taking it to ultron by himself!
but none of those guys compare to spidey...🙄
whoops....here's the pic...of course I suppose we could do some spider-fanboy arguing and just say the only reason that spiderman did that was because of his popularity....but I'll just stick with this.....wolverine was down and out....he got knocked back got up and spiderman hightailed it outa there.....second wolverine wasn't trying to hurt spidey.....third, even if I did count this as a spiderman win........it's still wolverine 3 spidey 1.....
Originally posted by jinzin
I agree one hit from spidey could and would incapacitate or possibly kill many.......just not these three....they don't fall into the category of an ordinary bank robber......i've already explained why a simple martial artists bones are comparible to living metal in some cases....but for comic book evidence...captain amreica's head was used as a battering ram that leveled an entire building after he was already fatigued and beaten from previous fighting and he was still barley concious...but spiderman is gonna KO him or kill him in one shot?......no, it ain't gonna happen....
Yea, sorry I didn't respond to this earlier but my computer was acting stupid again, I understand that some people have stronger bones while they train, I myself had my leg run up and down again by accident by a truck in 2 situations last year and I didn't break a bone, I have walked outside in a wool sweater in drumline practice while others where fainting around me and I did not faint, It was 97 degrees outside....
Anyway what Iam trying to say is, even though people in the real world or in a human body have done spectacular things, like the living metal comparison I myself am familiar with, you take a shotgun or high powered rifle right to the head at point blank range and they are dead. You obviously wouldn't expect these people who are in the best shape in the world and have metal like bones to survive this, because, after all they are only human.
Kind of like these characters, they are remarkable , have done SUPERHUMAN FEATS, are only peak human, or humans in their greatest potential. LOGICALLY they would not survive a 10 to 20 ton unpulled punch at super velocity, COMICALLY THEY HAVE, only to get knocked down or out by less sometimes. Since this is supposed to be A LOGICAL SCENARIO with comic book characters within logical range of their abilites, the points of his speed outdistang them,or his strength overwhelming them, aren't too farfetched since the members of the trio probably run around or less the speed of a greyhound, and could probably throw around the weight of a pool table across the room.
A question. Would it seem plausible in this scenario for a member of the trio to Ko spidey by coming from behind, or Caps shield ko'ng him if it stuck him square on. All bias aside please, anyone can answer.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yea, sorry I didn't respond to this earlier but my computer was acting stupid again, I understand that some people have stronger bones while they train, I myself had my leg run up and down again by accident by a truck in 2 situations last year and I didn't break a bone, I have walked outside in a wool sweater in drumline practice while others where fainting around me and I did not faint, It was 97 degrees outside....Anyway what Iam trying to say is, even though people in the real world or in a human body have done spectacular things, like the living metal comparison I myself am familiar with, you take a shotgun or high powered rifle right to the head at point blank range and they are dead. You obviously wouldn't expect these people who are in the best shape in the world and have metal like bones to survive this, because, after all they are only human.
Kind of like these characters, they are remarkable , have done SUPERHUMAN FEATS, are only peak human, or humans in their greatest potential. LOGICALLY they would not survive a 10 to 20 ton unpulled punch at super velocity, COMICALLY THEY HAVE, only to get knocked down or out by less sometimes. Since this is supposed to be A LOGICAL SCENARIO with comic book characters within logical range of their abilites, the points of his speed outdistang them,or his strength overwhelming them, aren't too farfetched since the members of the trio probably run around or less the speed of a greyhound, and could probably throw around the weight of a pool table across the room.
A question. Would it seem plausible in this scenario for a member of the trio to Ko spidey by coming from behind, or Caps shield ko'ng him if it stuck him square on. All bias aside please, anyone can answer.
I don't think you fully comprehend what logic is.
It's not logical to use some information from a source and discard the rest simply because it doesn't agree with you.
If you're going to argue real world physiology why would you discard any part of the real world physiology.
It's more logical to use all of one or another source of information. Rather than picking and choosing what pieces of information you choose to listen to.
see here's the thing even spidey falls into that bullet equates to death category.......he's more than capible of taking a hulk punch or a few of them even, before he's out of a fight.......but a bullet still kills him...comparing bullets to his fists don't quite make any sense in comic book world...
no single punch from the trio will KO spiderman unless it's coming from wolverine, or unless it's one of DD's death shots, or a perticular nerve point...
the shield thing is debateable....depending on how cap throws it it could either knock spiderman out....or take his head clean off...at the same time spiderman could take a couple shield slings and remain concious...it's just a matter of how messed up he'd be afterwards.....
Yep and i am fully aware that Wolverine's claws are fatal to Spidey if landed correctly, and that a bullet could kill him to. My point was that If caps shield was CAPABLE OF KO'ING spidey in one hit, than spidey's punch is capable of Ko'ing him in one hit, since cap's shield would nill him if nailed correctly, and Spidey's punch is definitely capable of more damage than Cap's shield.
How you love to criticeze me Cresh, its okay that you dont like me but what logic did I skip over, I considered both sides then and just now. When you merely criticize our posts it usually leads nowhere, since we usually have to repeat ourselves without knowing exactly where you lie on a point we just made, therefore adding no depth to the discussion. NO offense.
You still didn't answer my question Cresh, after I said such nice things about you in the Bats vs. Spidey thread. 🙁
Does anyone else who hasn't read and replied to what I posted earlier and this, come to a meeting ground in what I am trying to say.
HERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION, ANYONE CAN ANSWER, INCLUDING YOU CRESH.
What makes you certain that Galactus could beat some of these characters if he hasn't faced some of them yet?
and
If he lost to them, after knowing what he is capable of, would you still believe Galactus is capable of beating them all the same?