Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Started by jinzin244 pages

oh and cresh good job man I am uber impressed you are totally kicking ass.....it's like you get better at the whole debating thing every day....

Originally posted by The MISTER
Well you are a good debator Creshosk and like any skilled debator you have done a good job of avoiding the major points. Answer me this...

Is it written anywhere that wolverine heals instantaneously or has access to feats of strength beyound 1000 pnds?

Heal instantly? Yes. As Firey Balrog referenced.

Half a ton strength? I don't know does ripping out of Spidey's webbing count?

Originally posted by The MISTER
If not then you base your entire argument on your GUESS of what Wolverine can REALLY do.
As opposed to guessing what spiderman can do that goes against the evidence we have?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Spider-man isn't bulletproof,
LMAO. . . I was thinking about that the other day when I was reading the movie thing with the rhino.

Director: "and you stand there and the bullets bounce off of you."
Spiderman: "But, I'm not bullet proof."
Director: "Don't worry the actors will be using blanks."
Spiderman(thinking): "I'm just not getting through to him."

Originally posted by The MISTER
can run out of webbing, and can get knocked out by a hard enough hit to the head. He's beaten the hulk with his strength before but I KNOW that he CAN'T do that. If you just agree blindly with everything your favorite does then you're the biased fanboy

I agreed with jinzin already so your ignorance about where I stand is amazing. I started posting with the idea that everyone fighting would be going all out and at the top of their game. To me that means using their abilities to their utmost and Cap and DD are goners given those rigid conditions. They can only perform within human limitations because no Spidey supporter is going to say "Yeah Cap and DD are superhuman" because they aren't and anyone who's familiar with wolverines TRUE limitations knows that they have been stretched far far beyond what he is credited to have.

Because he's up against spiderman suddenly his limitations drop?

Originally posted by The MISTER
Your red glasses analogy doesn't excuse your lack of a scenario and it's obvious that you couldn't come up with one if you tried because it's not like your responses are short so you have the time....but not the ability.
I don't have the willpower to waste my time preaching to hell.

Originally posted by The MISTER
Thanks for the definition on strawman though...really 😄

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Originally posted by jinzin
oh and cresh good job man I am uber impressed you are totally kicking ass.....it's like you get better at the whole debating thing every day....
Well I'm slowly remembering what I was taught.

At one point I could tell you exactly what the logical fallacy that someone was using. and there are over 100 logical fallacies

Those are basically, invalid arguments using invalid resoning which generates an invalid conclusion.

I'm still trying to remember what the exact name for the picking and choosing information was.

taught where?

Originally posted by jinzin
taught where?
School. College to be precise.

It's amusing how many people don't fully understand what logic is.

Alot of people thaink that its some sort of rule that binds the universe together. Or that it's something that should dictate human behavior.

Enlighten me on what logic is o great Creshosk

Originally posted by Creshosk
To hell with Pis/cis? It's just a way of . . 😆

Well that places you miles ahead of strawnilla. 🙂

You seriously don't see your bias?


You've just insulted me for no reason.

That's low.

Ignore it insults happen all the time,and I was getting so good at it I had to stop.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Enlighten me on what logic is o great Creshosk

If Cresh still thinks that Cap and DD can withstand an unpulled punch from Spidey, he or she couldn't do so if he tried.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Ignore it insults happen all the time,and I was getting so good at it I had to stop.

I'll try.

But I tell you, it's happened so much to me on this thread alone, I just find it a really low and unnecessary thing to do. Though I can't say I've never done it. 😉

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Of course your own weight. In your description, Spidey just up and grabs Caps sheild and pulls his arm off, like it's some cheap zombie movie, of course his arm can handle his own weight.

If he tried any fancier maneuvers, he'd get KO'd. Spiderman is only a little bit faster than Cap. If you don't agree, Prove it different.

Iron fist...nah. Shang chi is better, but Cap is damn close (I'm assumming you meant worlds greatest fighter (WGF)).


I hope you mean Spidey's getting KO'ed by the shield, and even then......

And Spidey only a little faster than Cap? There's a reason why Cap has been described as faster than an olympian while Spidey, on the other hand, has superhuman speed, beyond what any athelete, olympian, Cap, or guy on the street can accomplish on the run.

You're too funny, I'll be back to post EARLY IN THE MORNING when noones here because my com puters being dumb and i have to use the one at he library. I've had enough ignorance today in some of the posts on various threads, people go I know nothing os this character so the other one wins regardless.

Originally posted by Creshosk
One on one scenerios again wonderful. 😖
Spidey is strong AND fast enough to force them into short one-on-ones in which he quickly breaks and removes bones.

lol....i guess straw didn't get it when we told him we were done with him 🙄

"Spidey is strong AND fast enough to force them into short one-on-ones in which he quickly breaks and removes bones."

cause all the guys on the trio team are so ****ing helpless that they can't even hold spidey back...much less hold their own against him...🙄

I figure eventually some fanboy will bring up the Sin Six arguement again so I'll do it first (as this is the only reason I can see that Spidey fanboys would be argueing that he's fast enough to draw them into one on one confrontations.)

The Sin Six are egotisitical, unorganized, halfwitted morons with no team chemistry whatsoever. Spiderman can confront them one on one and pit them against eachother.

On the other hand, you have Cap, the greatest leader in the MU, leading two guys, while he fully understands there capabilities. To say that Spidey can draw these three into single confrontations, is an indirect admission to the fact that he can't take all three, but it is also saying that Cap is not a good leader.

Since this is a random battle with an egotisticall wolverine, it woldn't be much different. Dock Ock needs some credit for leading villans, and the Villans were of a much higher calliber and none of the trio members could take many of them one on one.

Originally posted by StrawNilla
If Cresh still thinks that Cap and DD can withstand an unpulled punch from Spidey, he or she couldn't do so if he tried.

Yup, that's logic lol.

A guy who can punch through solid steel doors with ease, won't be able to knock down a normal human being. We all know skulls are soooo much harder than steel.

Indeed, VERY logical.

(To be expected reply of an Icon Trio Defender => Oh yeah smartass, well, tell me, if your precious Spider-Man can do that, why hasn't he done it, huh ??)

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Originally posted by who?-kid
Yup, that's logic lol.

A guy who can punch through solid steel doors with ease, won't be able to knock down a normal human being. We all know skulls are soooo much harder than steel.

Indeed, VERY logical.

(To be expected reply of an Icon Trio Defender => Oh yeah smartass, well, tell me, if your precious Spider-Man can do that, why hasn't he done it, huh ??)

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Fallacy of Exclusion.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Fallacy of Exclusion.

Fallace all you want, but no way a human being can take a full punch of a not-holding back SM.

Or is a skull harder than steel ?

(your skull maybe 😛 )

Originally posted by who?-kid
(your skull maybe 😛 )

It'd have to be, because NOTHING we're saying is getting through.

I can't say I'm not impressed by that, however. I find myself rather impressed by consistency in any form, despite it being annoying.