Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Okay buddy, pray tell me just between me and you, the main problem with spidey beating these three if he is his normal self, plus adrenaline, with all of his powers intact, I will then see if I can get an unbiased response to you, seeing as you don't say you are a spidey hater.
Normal "plus adrenaline"?
If one is character acts as though threw "bloodlust" then they all do. So I will answer both.
First I will address the "distance fighting" argument.
Wolverine has already proven capable of dodging or nullifying the effects of spidermans webbing, I Believe for this reasons that a character who is an equal fighter with a shield, and a character with enhanced senses, could do the same.
Next the "one punch" argument.
Wolverine has shown amazing resilience to damage, taking punishment from characters both stronger and more skilled than Spiderman. Captain America has resisted top tier attacks with his shield, things that would have splatted characters much more resilient than Spiderman, and again Dare Devil has super senses.
Because I don't see spidey winning with his webbing, the only road to victory would be that of close combat. Which brings us to the...
Spidey "will draw them into single confrontations" argument.
To say that is simply saying that Captain America is an inadequate leader. He has already worked with both of these characters and has shown some rapport. He is fully aware of their capabilities and there is no one more qualified to make the best of them.
He's already shown to have his hands full with Wolvie, how one earth do you honestly expect him to handle a character who is for all intents and purposes on par with Wolvie, And another who isn't far behind who has also shown to take it to the web head?
Originally posted by black robb
AVERAGE VARIETY BOOKWORM INTELLIGENCE! HE INVENTED A DEVICE THAT COULD SHOOT WEBBING THAT COULD HOLD UP A BUS!!!
Don't misquote me, and don't misinterpret me, I said essentially. I was referring to what type of intelligence he had not what level. Creating that webbing is exactly what bookworm intelligence would help someone do.
Two tacticias>? There is only one
Webbing is as effective as its ever been, it has been shown to capture the likes of these guys and so much more, and the webbing can be used in many different ways not just the typical string.
The fact is Spidey beating multiple foes of this caliber and greater is absolutely nothing new, and the fact that there is three gives him an advantage because peter takes advantage of the opponents offensive which leads to my next point..
If he were to go on the offensive, he has enough strength and velocity to over come DD and CAp in just one hit, but to give you the benefit of the doubt ill say 2, regardless a few unpulled punches from spidey is capable of taking wolvie fine , not to say these guys are going to let it happen easily, but spidey is not these guys in terms speed, he is wayyyyyy beyond that.
Precog is also commonly neglected, with this and his wall crawling ability he can aviod those attacks until he wishes to initiate and turn this into his favor,
The only way Cap is going to get that precious time to lead would be if he had spidey in a situation where time would be given to him.
Regardless they can win , but they would have to close up on him and corner him, which is nigh impossible, just like you say it is nigh impossible for wolvie to be killed.
Fair point about Daredevil not being a military tactician...but a smart skilled fighter and I would assume a fair tactician. Captain America's tactical skills and Wolverine's deadliness are probably the best advantages the team of 3 has. Maybe Daredevil's senses could be used in a way to balance against Spider Man's spidey sense. But they would need to plan. Without the element of surprise they are lost.
Actually, now I am thinking back to a fight where Spider Man took out the entire Fantastic Four. Now I am thinking that this is actually a good fight. Depends on the environment. The more room Spider Man has for evasion and acrobatics the better it is for him.