which is no where as near as long as fanboy bats or wolvies
The reason this is going on is because real points have been brought upl, and havent been shot down yet, only words have been twisted around, WHICH is how spidey wins unless, he gets cornered, which logicaly AINT GOIN TO BE happen no time soon, just read this THREAD BUD i have yet to see any good points from the trio supporters just posts and posts, because spidey has taken multiple opponents on before greater than this caliber.
Originally posted by Linkalicious
actually, i'm going to go against the norm and say that Spidey would have a better chance fighting all 3 of them at the same time than he would fighting them one after another...after another.The 3 of them wouldn't work that well as a team. Sure, Cap is a huge team player, and Wolvie has shown signs of teamwork in the past. But each one of these guys would want the glory of taking out Spidey and instead of working together...it'd probably be a competition to see who takes him out first.
S.H.I.E.L.D. files will never have "everything there is to know" about Spiderman. He's like Johnny on the Spot. He's the equivalent of Maverick in Top Gun...he flys by the seat of his pants. It may know about his strength's and weaknesses, but no file could cover all there is to know about Spiderman.
part number 2, posts which have been thought out, and not just someone saying this is sooo stupid , because I said so.
wnaderer are you aware of fanboy spiderman's powers? we got a list......
In my experience, both Wolverine and Spider-Man have just as many as each other. I don't get it, though. I'm a horrendous Spider-Man fan and even I know that against all three, he won't be able to do much more than out-maneuver and get away. It's possible for Spidey to win, but highly improbable.
As for Spidey fanboy powers, a lot of them seem to stem from what I call the theoretical 'Perfect Spider-Man', which is a Peter that is completely at his A-game and instantly reflexive, i.e., dodging anything not as fast as he, etc. But 'Perfect Spider-Man' is purely theoretical; Peter always lets himself get in the way of his own spider-sense and instincts, which in turn slows him down and makes him do stupid mistakes.
Even still, he's not fast enough to dodge everything all three send at him, and Cap's strategy would make sure of that.
The 3 of them wouldn't work that well as a team. Sure, Cap is a huge team player, and Wolvie has shown signs of teamwork in the past. But each one of these guys would want the glory of taking out Spidey and instead of working together...it'd probably be a competition to see who takes him out first.
What? I can't recall Steve Rogers ever being 'competitive' and Daredevil is far too business-like to make it a game.
nah rogers wouldn't be the problem
wolvie is brash and has shown many times to defect fromthe group, and in this situation they are all beserk, so noone will listen to leadership would they?
thanks for your post, however,I am done for tonight I want to focus more on the video game forum, people actually have more reason and support their facts.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
where was it my computer has been shitty all day, I am trying to get my signature to show, but it won't it saysYOU HAVE TO ENTER A CODE AND YOUR OLD SIGNATURE HAS BEEN DELETED,
what should I do old fellow lobo fan?
here it is... again.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Normal "plus adrenaline"?If one is character acts as though threw "bloodlust" then they all do. So I will answer both.
First I will address the "distance fighting" argument.
Wolverine has already proven capable of dodging or nullifying the effects of spidermans webbing, I Believe for this reasons that a character who is an equal fighter with a shield, and a character with enhanced senses, could do the same.
Next the "one punch" argument.
Wolverine has shown amazing resilience to damage, taking punishment from characters both stronger and more skilled than Spiderman. Captain America has resisted top tier attacks with his shield, things that would have splatted characters much more resilient than Spiderman, and again Dare Devil has super senses.
Because I don't see spidey winning with his webbing, the only road to victory would be that of close combat. Which brings us to the...
Spidey "will draw them into single confrontations" argument.
To say that is simply saying that Captain America is an inadequate leader. He has already worked with both of these characters and has shown some rapport. He is fully aware of their capabilities and there is no one more qualified to make the best of them.
He's already shown to have his hands full with Wolvie, how one earth do you honestly expect him to handle a character who is for all intents and purposes on par with Wolvie, And another who isn't far behind who has also shown to take it to the web head?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
this really is dependant on the people but LOGICALLY{i know more than one person has heard this from me before} spidey wins. cap would go down first , even though he is a great hero, he still isnt adapted to fighting spidey, spidey could just yank his shield out of his hands with his web and a 10 ton pull, and since cap is only human, he can have fast enough reflexes to do anythin about it, after that its happy web shootin fer cap, or a ten ton punch by spidey would also work wonders. next, wolvie will go down, cause spidey is too fast to even let logan get near enough to him to use his claws. spidey just webs his hands to the ground or pulls him into the air with another one handed ten ton strength tug, wolvie collapses as he hits the ground, even if he doesnt, spidey webs his claw hands together and gives him a lightning fast punch in the stomach, he goes down.
now the hardest one is daredevil because his senses are adapted to this fight. he has no superhuman strength though, so he cant really get near parker because of spidey's super agility, all he can do is take out his kane and wait, spidey comes near him, but he senses spidey, hell he might even be able to dodge him but if he hits him with his club or body, it would have minimal affect on spidey because of his super human endurance, and he could iether web DD or just beat him up plain and simple with his strength, while avoidin DD's blows by his spidey sense and deliverin lighnin fast punches that even if DD' tries to avoid with his sense, he cant at this close range because he has no superhuman agility, and even a single ten ton or even a ton punch will knock even the best of humans out
point three spidey wins more often than not LOGICALLY, but since it takes brains to debate that , I won't get a direct response from it.
pull all the issues you want this match hasn't happened yet, when will that sink in?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
point three spidey wins more often than not LOGICALLY, but since it takes brains to debate that , I won't get a direct response from it.
pull all the issues you want this match hasn't happened yet, when will that sink in?
Calling something logical doesn't make it that way. Calling smoething big doesn't make it that way. I'f I name my cat Fido, he is still a cat and not a dog.
You can quote spiderman supporters til your face turns blue, you're still ignoring the facts that we have brought up ourselves.
But you being out of arguments must rely on older posts posted by other people.
well hey who said it was a cat or dog, any and every concept has been made by a person at one time, this may be too deep for you,and anyway i've put up many ways and balanced the facts many times you just like to criticize me thatn do what you do, it isn't helping the discussion tip in any favor oh well time for me to go.....
and you guys arent listening to me anyway so i have put up well balanced facts from other people, but since you love biased scans by jinzin then YOU are being the hypocrite here.
Anyway I've asked questions on both sides, went through points of stats,,non stats etc. where spidey has shown to have many attributes and abilities the others don't and vice versa, I've stated my conclusion on him having to be well closed in to lose, where is your conclusion, you just like to quote off other posts, I have yet to see you not use that feature, you have intelligence but lack creativity, it stands out like a black eye.
Regardless, if you want to be cheap, they aren't touching him unless he's high on that wall, you guys are acting like I'm blowing stuff out of proportion and saying he can't be beat,while actually I've been the balancing factor on both sides.not always supporting my fellow supporters arguments like you, who didn't make A POST when merc said BATS ALWAYS HITS HARDER THAN SPIDEY.
And whats wrong with aunt may beating logan, stats surely don't matter all that much now do they?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNeither do your lies of being fair and balanced.
well hey who said it was a cat or dog, any and every concept has been made by a person at one time, this may be too deep for you,and anyway i've put up many ways and balanced the facts many times you just like to criticize me thatn do what you do, it isn't helping the discussion tip in any favor oh well time for me to go.....
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellBiased scans?
and you guys arent listening to me anyway so i have put up well balanced facts from other people, but since you love biased scans by jinzin then YOU are being the hypocrite here.
Oh yes, Marvel is very biased towards wolverine and against spiderman. . .
That aregument makes you sound like a fanboy.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYou made this indcation like stats were a know all end all beat all.
Anyway I've asked questions on both sides, went through points of stats,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellYou've never shown the trio to have anything but flaws and weaknesses. That's hardly fair or balanced. In fact you've specificlly argued to knock down the trio's stats.
,non stats etc. where spidey has shown to have many attributes and abilities the others don't and vice versa,
"Well his training wouldn't qualify because it was against soldiers and now he's against spiderman"
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I've stated my conclusion on him having to be well closed in to lose, where is your conclusion, you just like to quote off other posts,
I was the one who quoted spiderninja008? I was the one who quoted leon?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellThe quoting feature? 😆
I have yet to see you not use that feature,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellI have inteligence and I have creativity. Simply because I don't impliment something doesn't mean I don't have it. . .
you have intelligence but lack creativity, it stands out like a black eye.
And now you're attacking me on something. That's rich.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellslothful induction and fallacy of exclusion.
Regardless, if you want to be cheap, they aren't touching him unless he's high on that wall,
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellLike spiderman's strength? Or Wolverine's jumping ability? Or Spiderman's speed?
you guys are acting like I'm blowing stuff out of proportion
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellNo you haven't.
and saying he can't be beat,while actually I've been the balancing factor on both sides.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellan attack on the opposition isn't the same as a defence on your own side.
not always supporting my fellow supporters arguments
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellI usually try not to respond to things like that. Like how it took brainchild commenting and asking for input for me to comment on the stupidity of the argument batman would kill MJ to get to spiderman.
like you, who didn't make A POST when merc said BATS ALWAYS HITS HARDER THAN SPIDEY.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchelllmao. . .
And whats wrong with aunt may beating logan, stats surely don't matter all that much now do they?
You really don't see the error there? No, seriously.
Aunt may accomplishes something Spiderman failed to do at least three times?
It seems as a draw to me, but if I had overpowered so much you would have been over it like a group of ants over a melon.
I've shown no less flaws than you have shown in spidey, Noone said stats were the no all, and end all of anything, gadget wise, creativity wise, and intelligence wise spidey has this.
I said wolverine was a 30 foot ,jumper I think not. "Speedball special bs" I explicity said he was a class 10 lifter, and I went on to mentionthe difference between active and passive, to help youunderstand that strength could be increased, while pre cog could not.
Someone loves wolvies inconsistent stats.
If you have creativity then use it, thats why you got an F on that paper, you have potential , but bad work ethic.
If you are going to keep using those matches that have been done more than Jenna Jameson, don't bother posting we have heard it, it is clear you just like to argue. SAd, Sad,Sad. Must I remind you this hasn't happened yet.
Maybe aunt may has something that wasn' t mentioned on her stats that allow her to down wolvie with a " single swing of her bag".
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellSimply because you don't notice the ants doesn't mean they are not there.
It seems as a draw to me, but if I had overpowered so much you would have been over it like a group of ants over a melon.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellAnd what gadgets does spidey have?
I've shown no less flaws than you have shown in spidey, Noone said stats were the no all, and end all of anything, gadget wise, creativity wise, and intelligence wise spidey has this.
Cause we all know the trio are stupid bumbling idiots without a lick of battle experience or training. . .
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellBecause this is something that wolverine has done that takes away an advantage of spidey it's going to be brushed off as PIS/CIS. . .
I said wolverine was a 30 foot ,jumper I think not. "Speedball special bs"
Since you don't like that it happened, then to you it didn't happen.
Take off the spiderman blinders, they're impeding your preriphrial vision.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I explicity said he was a class 10 lifter, and I went on to mentionthe difference between active and passive, to help youunderstand that strength could be increased, while pre cog could not.
Someone loves wolvies inconsistent stats.
If you have creativity then use it, thats why you got an F on that paper, you have potential , but bad work ethic.
*points to his own signature again.* Spidey's class 10 strength hasn't helped him in his other encounters with wolverine have they?
"Because they're inconsistant let's just discard them."
If we discard wolvies inconsistant stats lets do the same to spiderman shall we? No spidersense for him then. He's got no precog powers.
(That's discarding the spidersense due to your own "logic"😉
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
If you are going to keep using those matches that have been done more than Jenna Jameson, don't bother posting we have heard it, it is clear you just like to argue. SAd, Sad,Sad. Must I remind you this hasn't happened yet.
"Because I don't like it, it didn't happen."
Gee I wonder what you're in denial about. . .
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellLMAO
Maybe aunt may has something that wasn' t mentioned on her stats that allow her to down wolvie with a " single swing of her bag".
Hmm that gadget that can hold the thing for life,
They are inconsistant, that just means don't rely on them too much.
Nah that was one pick, when wolvie was shoved up by colossus,you are basically saying wolvies PEAK HUMAN strength will let him jump high in that dense skeleton, thats just bad logic.
Then again if im blinded by spidey's whatever, why don't you tell me some advantages he has in this match, you have yet to make a solid point, ever since you've been on here, only want him to look like a scrub, denial thats what that is.
Noone said they didn't happen , I just want you to use some creativity(you say you have), and be an individual, instead of jumping the band wagon, you got an f on that paper why.
Noones discarding anything, you are just putting words in my mouth, first sign of a good debator. However, all the word switching in the wold and avoiding facts where you pick and choose still wont help against truth, period.
If i am a sucky debator, why do you waste your great fingers typing on me. Tssk tsk, you are good, perhaps the second best debator on this entire forum,lol. You can fallace all you want, but when it comes to the real world and combat knowledge, well, you need to go outside more....
Which is what i'm doing, I'm not sitting inhere on a bright sunny day, arguig about denial with superheroes, its all just opinions anyway, and it doesn't matter who we think will win in our HEADS anyway,only that we communicate, get along and learn something, you go bash other people, I'm outta here.