Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Does it even matter? Spidey's faster than any member of the group, much stronger, when you exclude Wolverine's insane healing factor he's much more durable.

DD and Cap. are killed within two seconds of the starting bell if Spidey doesn't hold back, Wolverine couldn't hold a candle to him in anyhting except endurance and durability (healing factor becomes this) so he's out to. Spidey outclasses these guys a hundred times over, c'mon! Petey maxes out at twenty tons when he needs to pull out his TRUE spider strength, while Wolvie couldn't lift a ton, and Cap. and DD are only peak humans in terms of strength.

Actually DD doesnt mimic spideys fighting style at all. The webhead really doesnt have any training and it shows often in his fights where DD actually beat Spidey and the webhead actually borrowed a few moves from the man without fear after that fight so it looks to me that Peter Parker is nothing without his powers where anyone could kick his ass.

I think that each characters' respective Movies have really given an accurate depiction of what each could/should really be able to do......from a powers/abilities perspective..(regardless of their flawed scripting and plotlines..)

.....you can really see the difference between spidey and these three guys...I mean damb..Spidey was going so fast that he was actually swinging on weblines faster than cars going down the road....Slowing down trains...Jumping from building to building...being thrown through buildings....

...and based on Marvel stats...these feats really ain't all too far fetched ..the guys top running speed clocks close to 100 mph....he can lift approximately ten tons(at times he's lifted thing's which greatly surpass this amount...) and is said to have reflexes 30-40 times faster than a normal man.....

Now look at Cap/DD/and Wolverine in their respective movies...none have shown anywhere near these capabilities...and yeah I know the movies and comics are not exactly the same in terms of story..but as I mentioned before..from a powers perspective...they're pretty damb accurate...

A bit of topic I know, but since we're talking about Spider-Man vs Daredevil : in a Spider-Man comic, Spider-Man knocked down Gladiator - a DD villain - with one punch !

It was funny to see the Gladiator laying on the ground while Spider-Man was saying: "Why did you say aaargh, you idiot, it was I who almost broke my hand on that stupid steel-plated face mask of yours !"

For the record : DD had trouble with Gladiator.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
I think that each characters' respective Movies have really given an accurate depiction of what each could/should really be able to do......from a powers/abilities perspective..(regardless of their flawed scripting and plotlines..)

.....you can really see the difference between spidey and these three guys...I mean damb..Spidey was going so fast that he was actually swinging on weblines faster than cars going down the road....Slowing down trains...Jumping from building to building...being thrown through buildings....

...and based on Marvel stats...these feats really ain't all too far fetched ..the guys top running speed clocks close to 100 mph....he can lift approximately ten tons(at times he's lifted thing's which greatly surpass this amount...) and is said to have reflexes 30-40 times faster than a normal man.....

Now look at Cap/DD/and Wolverine in their respective movies...none have shown anywhere near these capabilities...and yeah I know the movies and comics are not exactly the same in terms of story..but as I mentioned before..from a powers perspective...they're pretty damb accurate...

True, he does move fluidly fast when webslinging, but I don't think Wolverine was given enough credo. in his movie version. He moved too slow and mostly he just clawed at people. He also tumbles, acrobatic flips, kicks, etc., but I guess I'm expecting too much from Hugh Jackman. I would probably let Rebecca Romijin-Stamos (Mystique) whip me too. Was there ever a Captain America movie?

there was back in the early nineties i think........ might even have been eighties..... it pretty much sucked, villain was the red skull and cap was a wuss

i'd advise against watching it

Yeah it was done in the late eighties..a lot of people panned it..but it wasn't actually that bad...you can probably find it by doing a search on google...

Originally posted by Capt.JK
All I got out of this was that you have obviously never read a Cap comic. Maybe you should start with this one:

And Spider-Man and Cap barely fought in this issue, so I don't know what you're trying to prove.

here's a link to the review of the movie...scooble was right...it was 91..

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103923/

there was also one done in the 70's as well..I've never seen that one..but I'm sure it was probably pretty bad...

Well, Spiderman actually idolizes Captain America and would hesitantly fight him if he ever had to (they were paired up in an 80's PC game also against Doom and other villains).

Spiderman is often compared to him by the likes of J. Jonah Jameson who always tries to discredit Spiderman saying, "Captain America wouldn't have done that," which is probably a good kick in the pants despite all he's done for that guy (saved his son even during a wedding when Scorpion? came in the picture).

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Actually DD doesnt mimic spideys fighting style at all. The webhead really doesnt have any training and it shows often in his fights where DD actually beat Spidey and the webhead actually borrowed a few moves from the man without fear after that fight so it looks to me that Peter Parker is nothing without his powers where anyone could kick his ass.

To me it's simple, Spidey is just too fast and WAY too agile for DD to keep up with, and he's too strong and durable for DD to handle.

yeah................. me too................ 😎

Originally posted by Scoobless
at least take a few minutes from each statement before you contradict yourself man.......... jeez...........

and as for fanboyish......... nice name/picture/comment under picture/obsession/quote in your interests "I collect anything and everything with Captain America on it"

No contradiction here. Read the WHOLE post.

The problem is ever since you guys' hero got a couple of big budget movies under his belt, you think he's invincible. You all jumped on Toby's bandwagon and now you're convinced Spidey can't be defeated. Give the rest of us a break.

Captain America, PLUS Wolverine, PLUS Dare Devil? I'll have some of what you're drinking. Make it a double. Do the rest of us a favor and take off your "Burger King Spidey Glasses" and look at the facts.

Spider-Man would lose.

Originally posted by who?-kid
That one ? I would choose another comic if I were you, because Spider-Man was attacked both by Redwing AND Captain America, after having taught Falcon some fighting lessons and defeating him twice.

And Spider-Man and Cap barely fought in this issue, so I don't know what you're trying to prove.

Actually, I think this is an EXCELLENT issue to prove my points.

And Redwing is a BIRD. What's your point about that?

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Time to educate...lol...

Well let me use some of your own logic against you in this battle...

Spider Man defeated firelord....a being who has been capable of destroying whole civilizations of people...

Spider Man defeated the Juggernaut...a being who has taken on the entire team of X-men....

Spider Man destroyed Iron Man 2020..(future Iron Man) with his strength, speed, and fighting ability alone...

Spider Man beat Titania...the list goes on and on...

All of these beings have defeated or could have defeated entire superteams..so Spider-Man should be able to do the same... 😆

You see where I'm going with this...its foolish to compare random incidents within a characters history to their overall abilities...at least from a "random" fighting standpoint....in the context of most of these debates..I think most people look at the fighters from a powers/capabilities perspective rather than a "who done what/where" perspective...

Yes the Captain is a strategist..but don't downplay the tactical mind of Spider Man..he's shown the he can think his way through near impossible odds...and again let me reitterate..other than the examples of who done this and that..(which as I mentioned before is irrelevant in this type of debate) You haven't really given much from an power/ability perspective as to how Captain or DD will be able to survive one "unpulled punch" from Spider Man.. or even be able to land a blow....

Time for me to take YOU to school:

Your post, although very long and long-winded, simply talked in circles. I felt like you were trying to sell me a used car. ALL of these characters have defeated vastly superior foes in the past. Spidey has had a LOT of trouble with the likes of Scorpion and Kingpin, to name a couple, but Cap defeated Scorpion in just 4 PANELS! He didn't even break a sweat! The Kingpin didn't fair much better. Cap has broken the hold of the Hulk to get out of his grasp and save Rick Jones. Cap has defeated the REAL Iron-Man. Cap has beaten Black Panther. The list goes on and on...

I'm sure the Wolverine and DD fans could post just as many examples of these two defeating superior opponents.

And Spider-Man is no tactician. Please! Captain America is the SUPREME tactician of a battlefield. As fast as Spidey may be, Cap's analysis of a battlefield, whether there are 4 players or 400, is a helluva lot faster! Spidey simply reacts. He's a teenager (as are most of his fans it sounds like), who uses his agility and enhanced reaction times to REACT to the changing battlefield situation. He is no tactician! And perhaps you should read what Panther had to say about THAT in Cap's regard!

MY point is this: the Spider-Fanboys seem to attempt to totally disregard the experiences and abilities of these 3 characters, 3 of the most iconic characters in comics (along with Spidey), and downplay their strengths, powers and abilities. These 3 characters, working together, would easily and soundly beat the crap out of Spider-Man. And then Cap would feel bad about it and buy everyone a glass of milk.

Originally posted by Capt.JK

All heroes at some point lose to someone we think they should have easily beaten, but since you and I don't write the comics, we have to accept their histories as they have been written, whether we like it or not. ALL of their histories.

So just face the facts. Spidey would lose.

For you to think that these 3 couldn't defeat 1 man, when ALL of them have faced far more powerful characters ON THEIR OWN and beaten them; .

this is what's known as a contradiction, first you state
"All heroes at some point lose to someone we think they should have easily beaten"
then go on to say
"So just face the facts. Spidey would lose." - which, logically, means you think the trio should have easily beaten him, while at the same time referring to it as a fact

do you now understand what i was saying?

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Actually, I think this is an EXCELLENT issue to prove my points.

And Redwing is a BIRD. What's your point about that?

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Spidey has had a LOT of trouble with the likes of Scorpion and Kingpin, to name a couple, but Cap defeated Scorpion in just 4 PANELS! He didn't even break a sweat! The Kingpin didn't fair much better. Cap has broken the hold of the Hulk to get out of his grasp and save Rick Jones. Cap has defeated the REAL Iron-Man. Cap has beaten Black Panther. The list goes on and on...

Captain America against Firelord ? Hah. Captain America against Hulk ? Haha . Captain America against Titania ? Hahah. Captain America against Iron Man from the future ? Hahahaha. Captain America against Carnage ? Hahahahaha.

And Spider-Man is no tactician. Please!

Captain America is the SUPREME tactician of a battlefield. As fast as Spidey may be, Cap's analysis of a battlefield, whether there are 4 players or 400, is a helluva lot faster!

And stop making it seem like they're on a war, or like it's a game of chess. It's just a random fight, tactical skills only help you so far. If the enemy is too fast and too strong for you, in the end you will go down.

Spidey simply reacts. He's a teenager (as are most of his fans it sounds like), who uses his agility and enhanced reaction times to REACT to the changing battlefield situation.

These 3 characters, working together, would easily and soundly beat the crap out of Spider-Man.

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Time for me to take YOU to school:

Your post, although very long and long-winded, simply talked in circles. I felt like you were trying to sell me a used car. ALL of these characters have defeated vastly superior foes in the past. Spidey has had a LOT of trouble with the likes of Scorpion and Kingpin, to name a couple, but Cap defeated Scorpion in just 4 PANELS! He didn't even break a sweat! The Kingpin didn't fair much better. Cap has broken the hold of the Hulk to get out of his grasp and save Rick Jones. Cap has defeated the REAL Iron-Man. Cap has beaten Black Panther. The list goes on and on...

I'm sure the Wolverine and DD fans could post just as many examples of these two defeating superior opponents.

And Spider-Man is no tactician. Please! Captain America is the SUPREME tactician of a battlefield. As fast as Spidey may be, Cap's analysis of a battlefield, whether there are 4 players or 400, is a helluva lot faster! Spidey simply reacts. He's a teenager (as are most of his fans it sounds like), who uses his agility and enhanced reaction times to REACT to the changing battlefield situation. He is no tactician! And perhaps you should read what Panther had to say about THAT in Cap's regard!

MY point is this: the Spider-Fanboys seem to attempt to totally disregard the experiences and abilities of these 3 characters, 3 of the most iconic characters in comics (along with Spidey), and downplay their strengths, powers and abilities. These 3 characters, working together, would easily and soundly beat the crap out of Spider-Man. And then Cap would feel bad about it and buy everyone a glass of milk.

Spidey is a tactician, how else would he have beaten the likes of Morlun, a guy who could assume his powers with the right touch. Maybe he's not as good a tactician as Cap. but who cares? He'll need a good tactic to get out Spidey pounding him to a pile of jelly.

I don't think those three together could handle Spidey, they might as well be apart. Spidey is the most powerful out there on the battlefield. What's a guy with claws and low, low, low level superhuman strength (and I doubt if it's even on that level), a guy with superhuman senses that could only do as much as mimic the spider sense, agility that pales white when compared to that of Spidey's, and a billy club Spidey could snap like a twig, and a guy with writers who will have him put Superman to shame despite him having pitiful PEAK human strength and reflexes, agilty that just eeks over Olympian levels, and a shield Spidey could dodge and laugh at all day gonna do?

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Time for me to take YOU to school:

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LOL...at least come up with an original line..lol...oh well...let us begin...

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Your post, although very long and long-winded, simply talked in circles. I felt like you were trying to sell me a used car. ALL of these characters have defeated vastly superior foes in the past. Spidey has had a LOT of trouble with the likes of Scorpion and Kingpin, to name a couple, but Cap defeated Scorpion in just 4 PANELS! He didn't even break a sweat! The Kingpin didn't fair much better. Cap has broken the hold of the Hulk to get out of his grasp and save Rick Jones. Cap has defeated the REAL Iron-Man. Cap has beaten Black Panther. The list goes on and on...

No offense my man..but did you even read what I wrote..lol..your still using the same logic that you used from the previous post.....

.If your going to use examples from comic books(which again is really silly and irrelevant..) Get your facts straight.. I never have witnessed Cap breaking the hold of the Hulk...last issue I read with Cap vs the Hulk (Hulk 406 or 407).. I believe cap got pretty man handled..Hulk pretty much creamed him and tied him up with a street light...lol

Anyways...your arguments are really kind of silly...and as I said before..the "This one did that and this one did this.." argument is pretty moot...this type of logic can be applied to any character...no need for me to repeat..I've already given you examples...

I'm sure the Wolverine and DD fans could post just as many examples of these two defeating superior opponents.

read above(carefully this time...) same arguments...different characters..stupid logic...lol

And Spider-Man is no tactician. Please! Captain America is the SUPREME tactician of a battlefield. As fast as Spidey may be, Cap's analysis of a battlefield, whether there are 4 players or 400, is a helluva lot faster! Spidey simply reacts. He's a teenager (as are most of his fans it sounds like), who uses his agility and enhanced reaction times to REACT to the changing battlefield situation. He is no tactician! And perhaps you should read what Panther had to say about THAT in Cap's regard!

Well I have to disagree...Although not on the tactical level of the captain(this is argueable at best) Spidey is definately an accomplished strategist...most of his battles involve individuals who greatly outpower him(ie juggernaut..hulk...ironman..etc) and despite this...he manages to just about always come out on top....using a combination of his physical & tactical prowess...

MY point is this: the Spider-Fanboys seem to attempt to totally disregard the experiences and abilities of these 3 characters, 3 of the most iconic characters in comics (along with Spidey), and downplay their strengths, powers and abilities. These 3 characters, working together, would easily and soundly beat the crap out of Spider-Man. And then Cap would feel bad about it and buy everyone a glass of milk.

...you have no point...LOL

..you really haven't given anyone much credible evidence.. at least from a power and abilities perspective..as to how the trio is going to win....

..and Cripes almighty..man..if you reply...lol..can you please for the life of this post...come up with some other arguments? Most of your post just looks like you copied and pasted the same words and phrases over from the last several posts..but just changed the characters names...😆