Originally posted by Capt.JK
And of course, we can tell by his sig that he is definitely [B]NOT biased.
Sorry guys; the banana's still dancin'. 💃 [/B]
regardless of his sig, he's right..... in a closed environment like that, Carnage should have slaughtered Spiderwoman DD and Cage without too much trouble........ hell....... he probably would've wasted Hyde too then started on the other prisoners
Originally posted by Capt.JK
[B]YOU'RE INTERRUPTING MY BANANA DANCE OF JOY!!!
Sigh... Oh well; here goes again:1) I pointed out that Captain America is the leader of the New Avengers, and NOT Spider-Man, because you Spidey-fanboys keep trying to say that Spider-Man has just as much ability in the field tactics and logistics of combat department as Cap. Obviously Marvel doesn't feel that way. I also pointed it out because you Spidey-fanboys have said that Wolverine wouldn't work well on a team led by Cap because he wouldn't follow Cap's command. Funny how Marvel doesn't agree with you guys on that subject either. I'm starting to see a pattern here.
2) So rather than taking the pictured examples of Wolverine vs. Spider-Man, which appeared in actual published comics, we should instead take the rantings of a few star-struck Toby Maguire fans as, wait, how did you put it... "pure bred fact", lest we forget "that Spidey has a vertical leaping distance of 30 ft or more, the ability to lift *press* 10 tons and more, durability to take being thrown through a brick wall and dent a steel door..." We should take all of this as pure bred fact instead.
(Hey man... Come here... A little closer... THESE ARE COMIC CHARACTERS, MAN! NONE OF THIS IS REAL! THERE ARE NO PURE BRED FACTS!!!)
Now back to my banana dance of joy... 💃 [/B]
And don't tell me you actually thought that when I was talking about Spidey's abilities such as leaping 30 ft or more vertically or lifting *pressing* 10 tons or more that I was referring to movie Spidey and not 616?! That has to be either the biggest misinterpretation of my argumnent thus far or a lame attempt to twist my words in your favor.
(Hey man....you don't have to come closer, stay where you are, I'll yell it to you.....THESE GUYS ARE COMIC BOOK CHARACTERS SURE ENOUGH BUT THEIR ABILITIES ARE THEIR ABILITIES AND IN A 'VERSUS' FIGHT NO CANON INVOLVED, VITAL STATISTICS AKA FACTS AND INTERPRETATIONS OF WHAT THESE CHARACTERS WITH THEIR SET ABILITIES CAN ACTUALLY DO MATTER WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!)
I'm not going to dance now, seeing as I'm too disappointed by your ignorance to full-blown fact (that's not to call you ignorant in general, by the way).
Originally posted by X-Logan
Logan is not on peak human agility level.He has enhanced agility,enhanced speed and enhanced reflexes.
Some people on this tread think Logan is slow...
Spider man is not the only one who got impressed by Logan´s reflexes and agility.
And Spidey was only "impressed" with Logan's reflexes and agility in a comic book not even in Marvel continuity.....and even so, Spidey had Wolvie pinned and was, as I recall, pounding him repeatedly in the face.
Originally posted by X-Logan
Spider man have never get near to win a fight against Wolvie...secret war??It wasn´t even a fight...And there is another one when Logan get Spider man´s head and smash it into a tree,it was one of those spider man series on 90s by Macfarlane.
Originally posted by Capt.JK
And of course, we can tell by his sig that he is definitely NOT biased.
I'm gonna go out and get every single comic where Spidey has schooled Wolverine, made DD run for his life, or outmaneuvered the Captain..(there's a long list so it may take a while), then scan it and act as if its the gospel on these characters...then I'll...oh forget it..I don't have that much free time on my hands...lol....
Originally posted by StrawNilla
I did bring anything about Spidey leading any Avengers lineup, but I will say that Spidey thinks on his feet better WHILE IN COMBAT... Oh sure, when it comes to planning an attack Cap has Spidey beaten, but between the two of them, I'd vote for Spidey as most likely to exploit a weak spot on any enemy he's pounding/getting pounded by...And don't tell me you actually thought that when I was talking about Spidey's abilities such as leaping 30 ft or more vertically or lifting *pressing* 10 tons or more that I was referring to movie Spidey and not 616?! That has to be either the biggest misinterpretation of my argumnent thus far or a lame attempt to twist my words in your favor...
First of all, anyone who knows anything about Captain America, including those folks over at Marvel, think you're an absolute nutjob if you actually believe your first statement. Captain America is, once again, ALWAYS chosen to be the leader of every group he is a member of (Avengers, New Avengers, the Invaders, all of the Secret Wars, DC vs. Marvel, JLA vs. the Avengers, etc., etc., etc...), BECAUSE he is the BEST LEADER, BEST PLANNER, and the BEST COMMANDER UNDER FIRE. How you can read Marvel comics and NOT know this is completely beyond me, and I would suspect everyone else who reads anything besides Spider-Man, which evidently you don't, as evidenced by your moronic statements.
Secondly, I wasn't talking about movie Spidey vs. comic book Spidey, or cartoon network Spidey or MTV Spidey or the Electric Company Spidey or the crazy guy at the bus station who thinks he's Spidey or my 3 year old son who likes to run around in his Spidey pajamas... I was talking about the character in general. There are no "pure bred facts" about any of this, because SPIDER-MAN IS NOT REAL! SPIDER-MAN IS AN IDEA CREATED BY STAN LEE! HE DOES NOT EXIST! That is what I meant. That being said, none of these characters exist. They are all fake. There are no "pure bred facts" to draw from, EXCEPT the ones published by the owners and creators of the characters themselves. And they deemed Wolverine more than capable of running his claws clean up Spider-Man's ass. All of your whining and ranting and delusional comments can't and won't change that. Discussion over.
Originally posted by Capt.JK
... There are no "pure bred facts" to draw from, [B]EXCEPT the ones published by the owners and creators of the characters themselves. And they deemed Wolverine more than capable of running his claws clean up Spider-Man's ass. All of your whining and ranting and delusional comments can't and won't change that. Discussion over. [/B]
Now if your argument rings true..and with this being a random battle..no prep involved...explain why Spidey will not handle the Trio the same way as he did the X-men(including Wolvie) below...
Marvel Knights Spiderman/Wolverine.
Aunt May is grilling them about where they have been and what they've been doing in the kitchen so they go into the long drawn out story.
Spidey saves his butt on more than 2 occasions, and I believe it was the 3rd occasion where Wolverine was run over by a car, heading straight into a gas truck when Spidey swung in outta no where and managed to web/yank the car up off the ground avoiding the gas truck and ultiately saving Wolverine the long and painful process of regenerating all the burnt flesh on his body.
Wolverine's response to Spiderman while doing this "Wow."
Easily done, 'whobdamandog'. First of all, you guys have shown this old pic to death of Spider-Man fighting the X-Men; get some new material. That being said, the X-Men were not a coherent fighting team. Most of these members had just joined the team. Also, they made the mistake of underestimating Spider-Man. Lastly, they had no clearly defined leader with experience to compensate for their lack of real team experience. The trio have none of these problems. The trio have all gone up against or fought beside Spider-Man at several different times throughout MU history, so they are fully aware of what he is capable of and what his abilities are. And Captain America has more than enough experience in the role of leadership to quickly take the reigns and lead his team to victory over Parker.
As for your second pic, which I'm pretty sure you guys have also already used, I see only one opponent in the pic; not three. And he is NOT of the caliber of combatant that either one of the trio is. Spidey dodging one shot from this nobody is no different than either of the trio doing the same exact thing in their own books. They've all done it hundreds of thousands of millions of times. Spider-Man dodging one attack from one opponent, Spidey-sense or not, is not a feat of biblical proportions.
Lastly (once again an over-used picture, but hey; you guys can only work with what you've got, right?), Spider-Man dodging around the Hulk is not much of an accomplishment. All of these heroes can do the same thing to the Hulk. He can run and jump pretty fast, once he gets his head of steam going, but his reflex and reaction times are nowhere near what ANY of these guys can do. Captain America and Wolverine have danced circles around him many, many, many times in the past. You have no point here.
Anything else you'd like me to shoot down while you're trying to dodge those pics of Wolverine gutting your favorite wallcrawler all by his lonesome? 😮💨💃
Originally posted by Capt.JK
Anything else you'd like me to shoot down while you're trying to dodge those pics of Wolverine gutting your favorite wallcrawler all by his lonesome?
if you believe Wolverine can take Spidey solo then are you also saying he can gut Cap solo?.... i'm just asking as Spidey is way faster, stronger.... blah, blah, blah, physically superior in every way, etc, etc when compared to Cap.....
do YOU believe Wolvy would have no trouble against Cap?