Smoking should it be ban?

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It just passed in Oklahoma to raise taxes on tobacco it starts in Jan.

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that's a pathetic rule... "let the smokers pay" ... one of the most stupid things I ever saw I think

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The way I see it:

Smoking is a habit that you get nothing out of but addiction. If you are gonna smoke there are better things to smoke than tobacco. Secondly, if 10 people are in a room and 1 starts to smoke, the other 9 have to deal with that person's habit. If you are in a room of people who don't like smoking, regardless of the numbers, you should wait to light up. If you walk into a room where people are ALREADY smoking, I don't think you have the right to complain.

-AC

I'm just curious, what are the better things you can smoke? Pure tobacco isnt as addictive or deadly untill the tobacco companies are done putting all of the shit in the mix.

I smoke (alot) but I never smoke when I'm the only one smoking. Everyone goes on about cigarettes and smoking but what about alcohol? If you want to ban something ban that. When you've smoked alot you don't end up speeding through red robots and killing other people in car accidents. Sure, smoking will possibly kill us all, but that's a choice we made. I reckon that as long as you don't subject someone else to your habit (by smoking in their homes or cars or wherever if they don't smoke) then it's no problem. They alredy charge the crap out of us, let us be.

that's a pathetic rule... "let the smokers pay" ... one of the most stupid things I ever saw I think
what so stupid about that if you smoke you have ot pay to get the cigies, tax them to hell and back for what I care
Everyone goes on about cigarettes and smoking but what about alcohol? If you want to ban something ban that. When you've smoked alot you don't end up speeding through red robots and killing other people in car accidents
so why alcohol, people run red lights without being influenced by alcohol so should we ban cars too then

OK Fin, heres my problem with that. Why isnt taxation equal? Why must we have to pay absurd taxes? Im just saying spread it around a bit.

Tax is very rarely fare, which is why people dislike it. Throughout history taxes have often been the heaviest on alcohol, weapons and so forth. The main purpose of taxes is for revenues. Revenues are often spent in areas like healthcare, and there is a belief that cigarettes and alcohol put strains on the health care system due to the negative effects they have on health....

Yu know the money that is coming from buying these smokers could be use for other stuff.Why does people waste there money on this stuff.Now that would be a good question to ask.JM

OK Fin, heres my problem with that. Why isnt taxation equal? Why must we have to pay absurd taxes? Im just saying spread it around a bit.
just as with alcohol tobacco is considered a luxury goods here in Norway as with a bunch of other stuff and the taxastion of these are high, still both alcholol and tobacco causes healt damamges that cost the society a load of money to treath.
As for Norway all things that causes healt dameges is taxed to the extremes so that part of that money used ot pay for the stuff goes back to treatment of the healt damages/effects these goods cause.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
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Ok here's my problem with this, why the F*CK are WE the ones always having to pay these extra taxes yet we get treated like crap????
And you guys wonder why we smokers are so damn hostile??? Are you kidding me???
Why the hell can't that tax go on liquor for a change? Or better yet why the heck cant it be spread to all members of the state? Oh heaven forbid, I guess they figure we smokers should pay the bulk of the taxes. Grrrrrrrrr

yes, states use smokers as a financial crutch...and lets take that further.
do you have any idea of the amount of revenue that would be lost if everyone quit smoking? all those tax dollars...GONE *poof*

i think that would be a great form of protest. all smoker take 2 weeks to a month and roll your own cigarettes. a "roll your own strike" to protest these unfair taxes. everyone b!tches and cries like a bunch of babies, but lets see what happens if smokers stop buying cigarettes and EVERYONE'S taxes go up up up. i have a dream!!!!

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
Yu know the money that is coming from buying these smokers could be use for other stuff.Why does people waste there money on this stuff.Now that would be a good question to ask.JM
Yea but its there money - if they want to spend it on cigarrettes why should we make it our problem to stop them. Smoking has its benefits too, people dont smoke it just to put a strain on the NHS or hospitals.

oops...double post

Originally posted by finti
just as with alcohol tobacco is considered a luxury goods

Ah but here's the rub
in my state they havent raised taxes on liquor in years. It's just us smokers taking the hit.
im sorry but I still think this method of taxation is discrimminatory.

Ban smoking in public places, like shops and streets etc. Not necessarily bars though, but definately at the bar so that the barstaff are not affected to greatly by it.

It's just us smokers taking the hit.im sorry but I still think this method of taxation is discrimminatory
well that aint the case in Norway we have divided it between the certain goods like alcohol, tobacco, chocolate, sugar beverages such as soda and lemonade,vehicles, fuel for vehicles, and other goods that are considered a health hazard. Cant expect the smokers to carry that burden alone

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The way I see it:

Smoking is a habit that you get nothing out of but addiction. If you are gonna smoke there are better things to smoke than tobacco. Secondly, if 10 people are in a room and 1 starts to smoke, the other 9 have to deal with that person's habit. If you are in a room of people who don't like smoking, regardless of the numbers, you should wait to light up. If you walk into a room where people are ALREADY smoking, I don't think you have the right to complain.

I totally agree with your post!!!

if theres 10 people in a room and 1 of them lights up, ask them to put it out. problem solved.