Coot, do you have any idea about iraq's involvement with iraq and the military history between the two?
An I disagree, if someone gives an unstable person weapons, they are just as responsible as the unstable person who uses those weapons.
Yours must be a wonderful world where responsibility is merely a notion that never seem to apply to your own actions
USH> “Heh, still more than ever voted for Clinton, eh?”
With the turn-out for this election is that a surprise?
BF> Maybe. I don’t think the world is a safer place after this US-election. But at least a democrat won’t have to clean up the Bushman’s mess. 100.000 dead Iraqis… Maaan…
Urot> ” Like I said before, it’s sad that the world looks at Americans like they are total idiots based on George Bush’s screw-ups.”
Actually – it’s my experience that words such as ”Bush” ”Bush-regime” and ”Bush-administration” are being used when we point fingers over here. Don’t let Bush&Cheney&Rumsfeld and co. convince YOU that everyone else hates you (Americans in general). Another scare tactic…
Kingcoot> Try looking up the number of UN resolutions against Israel. More than 100…
“We do not baby sit dictators.” But it’s okay for your leaders to sell WMD to them, and dispose of them???
I fail to see the logic.
So you do think Saddam is unstable? So that means we do have a responsibility to take him out if he is that unstable. Dude, just realize it takes time for a country to move on their responsibility... you see, the world can drag us down if it is allowed to.(France, cough, Germany, cough)
It seems like the US is an older brother that can't get along with its younger brother and the parent just gives the older brother hell while the younger brother smiles because no one focuses responsibility on him.
I'm saying, you focus responsibility on the unstable child or dictator, and you get stability... otherwise you knock a stable country around long enough, it can be unstable.
They were saying that this election had record turnout...which was no surprise whatsoever, really.
Bush had a majority of the popular vote, but just barely...he got 51% of the vote, and Kerry had 48%. It was an incredibly close race. And as much as I don't like Bush and his policies, I'm glad that this won't be dragged out like the 2000 election was. I sorta feel bad for the people in Ohio who cast provisional ballots and won't have their votes counted because of Kerry conceding, though...
And for the record -- I dislike Bush, not the people who voted for him. Everyone has their right to vote for who they want, I just don't have to like who they voted for. Hell, one of my best friends is a Republican who voted for Bush and I really feel bad for her because she said that people have been giving her grief for voting for him. That's not right.
Originally posted by The Omega
USH> “Heh, still more than ever voted for Clinton, eh?”With the turn-out for this election is that a surprise?
That was talking proportionately, Omega, so turn-out is of no consequnce.
Like I say, on the scale of things, Bush's proportion is above average; getitng a plurality is a solid achievement.
I also believe that Bush is unstable. By the way you keep mentioning that bush was right to go in there because of the chemical weapons and wmd's, but what you fail to acknowledge is that he didn't have any.
He went there for WMD's, didn't find any, but is still there.
He went looking for an Al Queda link, didn't find any, but is still there.
And by the way, the US is the younger brother.
"I'm saying, you focus responsibility on the unstable child or dictator, and you get stability... otherwise you knock a stable country around long enough, it can be unstable. "
Good point, Iraq was stable, and now it isn't.
Bush isn't unstable. An unstable leader attacks without speaking for 5 months with the UN. Think. Bush isn't Saddam.
NOTE: During this year period, American Civilians (non provoked) were killed by some force of hate that we have never dealt with collided with a structure that burned over 5 months.
Bush didn't OVER react if he waited a good 5 months even after he questioned Saddam. PLEASE READ MY TIME LINE. IT IS ACCURATE>
Originally posted by The Omega
USH> “Heh, still more than ever voted for Clinton, eh?”Urot> ” Actually – it’s my experience that words such as ”Bush” ”Bush-regime” and ”Bush-administration” are being used when we point fingers over here. Don’t let Bush&Cheney&Rumsfeld and co. convince YOU that everyone else hates you (Americans in general). Another scare tactic…
Yeah I know. They hate American Policies, not Americans.
Yes, butter and roses. Clinton seemed to think he was doing alright himself, and after he left office his health was in decay. He noticed it, just didn't think much of it.
Clinton did agree Saddam was a threat, and then Clinton gets stuck in a pack of lies by taking his presidential time to the oval office to do other than his stated business. Then he lies under Oath to a Grand Jury. Not the best combination of events for the US.
Originally posted by kingcoot
Yes, butter and roses. Clinton seemed to think he was doing alright himself, and after he left office his health was in decay. He noticed it, just didn't think much of it.Clinton did agree Saddam was a threat, and then Clinton gets stuck in a pack of lies by taking his presidential time to the oval office to do other than his stated business. Then he lies under Oath to a Grand Jury. Not the best combination of events for the US.
when Clinton lied, no one died. when Bush lied, over 1000 Americans and many Iraqis died.