Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Started by Hit_and_Miss144 pages

No when the advanced space pirates dodge your missiles they are not actually dodging it... Its just there linear attack pattern fooling you.. They don't detect and dodge its just there time to jump to a new location to start firing...

Theres a big difference between these attack patterns..

1) space pirates - Fire, Teleport/jump to new location, Repeat
2) elite - Fire If grenade detected dodge

1 is just simple linear prog, fooling you into the belief of AI
2 Is actual AI responding to your moves

Theres a great difference between the AI on easy and legendary.. GO play it again.. Regardless of how much damage the opponents do they react very dif.. easy oppenents tend not to move at all... legendary will move while firing..

their moving isnt what hinders your assault in the end.. its the uber damage packed within 3 shots that can cause you to have to go back to the checkpoint...

honestly I wouldnt want the prime AI to be that great... because everytime you re-enter the rooms.. the mobs respawn over and over and over.. it would get annoying if I couldnt dispatch them quickly to get to where I have to go (which is ultimately the core of the game)

in halo after you kill something you have a reassurance that nothing'll be there should you have to return

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
milky way galaxy is where we are located.. and its basically a speck compared to the size of the universe

less then a spec, an infentesimouly small speck, on ab infantesimily smell speck, which is in an infintesimily small speck which is on... well, you get the idea.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
their moving isnt what hinders your assault in the end.. its the uber damage packed within 3 shots that can cause you to have to go back to the checkpoint...

They arn't going to create Uber AI for a game... AI that can actually out play a human on tactics alone would be worth alot... so they compensate with damage and shields.... But Metroid enemies have 1 main attack... some might have a second attack... but bar that they are very limited enemies.. An elite has several different weapons/forms of attack... the flood have several attack patterns(explosive unit/swarming you/weaponed units/much more strengh and long jumps) making them a much more versatile unit...

Originally posted by thegmeister53
We should have a hundred page celebration. 🤘

Yeah, by saying "Samus wins" (for maybe the thousand time) and close the thread.

I'll start, SAMUS WINS!!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
They arn't going to create Uber AI for a game... AI that can actually out play a human on tactics alone would be worth alot...

its eventually going to happen.. as alot of the gaming community likes single player experiences.. and many of them are sorely lacking in this area

an AI that good will probably only be geared towards its singular purpose.. i.e. an AI meant to pilot a plane wouldnt be found playing counterstrike lol

Half Life 2 has pretty good AI. Those soldiers dodge and hide and lob grenades all the time.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
its eventually going to happen.. as alot of the gaming community likes single player experiences.. and many of them are sorely lacking in this area

an AI that good will probably only be geared towards its singular purpose.. i.e. an AI meant to pilot a plane wouldnt be found playing counterstrike lol

Yes maybe in the future... but right now... Nope...
For an AI to be that clever it would be able to do alot more then just be good a games... Its the kind of programming that would we worth alot of money....

thinking independantly for "all-purpose" tasks yes.. but thinking independantly within the parameters/rules in a computer game is far less daunting

If it were real AI in Halo I would imagine that all the Elites would just run at you and beat the crap out of you. You wouldn't be able to take them all down before they reach you. 😄

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
thinking independantly for "all-purpose" tasks yes.. but thinking independantly within the parameters/rules in a computer game is far less daunting

Still, An AI like this would require the ability to "think" this alone would worth alot...

*yawns* We're still arguing?

STOP POSTING ABOUT THE AI CRAP SHIT!!! ITS LEADING NOWHERE FFS!!

Back to subject now!

Swedish, I'm sensing a bit of tension. 😛

Didn't like the fact that halo has AI??? huh??? never realised how easy metroid was as a game???

Take your balls out of your purse...
...and Step up to flavor with Halo.. F yer!

If you've got nothing better to add then back patting comments or lame "SA WINS CAUSE I LVOE HERS PIXELS"
don't bother posting

lol you're acting like halo is as hard as ninja gaiden or something. Its probably one of the easiest first person shooters I've played

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Didn't like the fact that halo has AI??? huh??? never realised how easy metroid was as a game???

Take your balls out of your purse...
...and Step up to flavor with Halo.. F yer!

If you've got nothing better to add then back patting comments or lame "SA WINS CAUSE I LVOE HERS PIXELS"
don't bother posting


Yeah, whatever, that's your oppinion everyone are different as gamers, oh and what Halo isnt close AI, it's just stupid programming, not actual AI, dont bullshit and learn what pixel is FFS!
I agree with the bum, this discussion IS stupid and it's leading nowhere but nowhere!

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Its probably one of the easiest first person shooters I've played

Yupp yupp yupp I agree

Originally posted by IcePunk
Yeah, whatever, that's your oppinion everyone are different as gamers, oh and what Halo isnt close AI, it's just stupid programming, not actual AI, dont bullshit and learn what pixel is FFS!
I agree with the bum, this discussion IS stupid and it's leading nowhere but nowhere!

Halo has AI.... the game shows that the enemies have the ability to make choices.. Tactical or to save themselves...
Metroid never makes either... its just linear programming

"A pixel is one of the many tiny dots that make up the representation of a picture in a computer's memory."

Does SA have pixels??? erm... yes she does... Be it on the tv or that saved pic you like to stare at when you have your "alone time"

You do a great job of sounding stupid! Congratz! 😂

Halo might not be the hardest FPS of all time... But its by no means the weakest either... Theres plenty of FPS's on the xbox that were a hell of a lot worse... Just like there are loads of adventure games that are better then Metroid prime.. Some were even challenging!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Halo has AI.... the game shows that the enemies have the ability to make choices.. Tactical or to save themselves...
Metroid never makes either... its just linear programming

"A pixel is one of the many tiny dots that make up the representation of a picture in a computer's memory."

Does SA have pixels??? erm... yes she does... Be it on the tv or that saved pic you like to stare at when you have your "alone time"

You do a great job of sounding stupid! Congratz! 😂

Halo might not be the hardest FPS of all time... But its by no means the weakest either... Theres plenty of FPS's on the xbox that were a hell of a lot worse... Just like there are loads of adventure games that are better then Metroid prime.. Some were even challenging!


Hmmm, a AI can make "choices", the enemies in halo do the same "choices" over and over again, now how can you explain that? Yes, exactly it's NOT AI, just programming as in MP.

And if it isnt the hardest FPS game of all time then stop acting like it is. Oh and there is no point in comparing the two games in "hardness" since it's very diffrent gameplay, Halo is a fps and the challanging stuff is the enemies, Metroid is an fps adventure with puzzle solving as the challanging part.