Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Started by Hit_and_Miss144 pages

Originally posted by Dizzle
Yes, more complex meaning providing better protecion, meaning she will be able to take more hits than him. Master Chief wasn't actually fighting against the ring world, he blew it up using a ship. I can smash a super computer, but does that mean I can beat somebody in an advanced combat suit?

No one, especially someone as experienced as Samus, is seriously stupid enough to roll up to an opponent in ball form and stop. The morph ball would be means to evade attacks. And drop some bombs. By the same token, Samus is ALSO not stupid enough to simply jump without attacking in any way.

The suit upgrades will too help. One hit from the ice beam would temporarily immobilize Chief, giving Samus an easy win via Super Missiles. A stream of plasma would take him out very quickly. As would missiles, super or otherwise. Chief's shield isn't that good. Not even close to being able to withstand all of Samus's weapons, much less being able to regenerate before she hits him again.

And I almost forgot! If Chief gets in close, we all know what happens! Sparkshine+Screw Attack=One twisted pile of metal and body parts where MC was standing.

Oh were to begin....

MC did fight the ring world... He though its guardian and all the sentinels on it. They use better weaponry then MC and are controlled by a genius.. I'll say it again, they got crushed under MC boots...

lol you think MC will stand still and allow SA to plant bombs under him??? he can shoot her in her ball form as well.

More speculation as to weaponry. so they do that to some space pirates.. The talk of weapons instantly killing MC just angers me... Don't you read any of my posts??? They couldn't do that MC shields take PLASMA shots all the time, they also withstand alot of electrical energy. SA missiles are very small to MC. If she gets in close everyone already agrees that MC is much stronger and faster than SA. MC fist+Gun round head + KO SA.

I might as well just say that MC could instantly cut SA in two with his sword.... thats about the level of argument you want.

You said MC fought the ring world. He didn't. He fought the guardians of a ring world, which is different. The ring world didn't get up and swat at Master Chief. Samus has fought the entire populations of planets many a time and won. Mother Brain, Ridley, or Metroid Prime would absolutely beat the crap out of ANY enemy in Halo. Don't try to compare what the 2 fight against.

I never said Samus would kill Chief with morph ball bombs. The ball is very fast and very small, making it very very hard to hit. She can use it to gain a better postion, the bombs would be used to distract MC more than hurt him.

I said missiles would kill MC. Size is nothing. How many shots can MC take square on from a rocket launcher? That's what I thought. The ice cannon's main purpose is to slow the opponent. Master Chief can withstand a few blasts of plasma, but not a constant stream of it. I never said one standard shot would blow him up, but you claimed that anything that Samus shoots MC with is easily recoverable, which is simply untrue. A shot from the plasma cannon would do a good amount of damage. The ice cannon would slow him down enough to be targeted. Missiles and Super Missiles would each kill him with a direct hit.

Sparkshine and Screw Attack are insanely powerful attacks. Master Chief would literally be torn to bits. He can punch better, but that doesn't matter when she has close range attacks that powerful.

If MC tries to cut Samus with a sword, she blasts him as he tries to get in close. His biggest handicap is not carrying extra weapons aside from grenades.

I love how you decide to insult my "level of argument" when A: Yours hasn't gone deeper than "Master Chief is bigger so he can take all of her shots" and "Master Chief can obviously outdodge and outmaneuver Samus cuz he does Calculus in the all knowing fanbook".
And B: Insulting me just makes your argument seem more desperate when I point it out... And pointing it out makes me seem just as low. And then you'll point that out, and we can start a cycle into infinity. Seriously, the first life lesson you need to take from this is that you're never actually better than anyone, despite how much you might think you are.

If you read what I said, I commented that the Ring world held better technology that SA not that the Enemies were comparable to anything from Metroid.... this was in return to satsujins comment that SA has better tech then MC, the point being that MC has fought foes with better tech then him and won... can SA make the same claim??? (not playing all the Metroid games I cant answer this, so please tell me otherwise)

The longer shes in ball mode the more times MC has the chance to shoot her, she cant exactly shoot back at him, wheres the tactical advantage... With MC's grenades should SA try to hide he can grenade her out, and be ready to shoot her.

The normal rockets in metroid only do damage if they hit, or are extremely close to the enemies, Halo rockets have a bigger splash radius.
Super rockets take time to charge giving MC time too shoot her. yes plasma can do damage to him, but he can recover from it. Ive seen it you have seen it, why argue otherwise???

Ok her up close moves... as I have tried to point out, MC has VERY fast reactions. so when SA gets close he can dodge all her combat moves, and counter. The fact of the matter is she has her reflexes upgraded a bit, he has them upgraded loads. Yes he can punch better, but you left out the part about him dodging attacks and countering them.

Have you any proof that SA can stand up to being cut by something that burns as hot as plasma??? we all know that simple fire traps can damage her.... if he carried 2 weapons one for a distance 1 for up close, how is that a disadvantage.

In my argument I have always tried to back up my claims with quotes from the bible, or advents in the game. your argument comes from meer speculation.... "yer the Chozo did this too her..." yet no where is it mentions that shes stronger then 66tons or has her reactions on the same par as chief. I like the way you twisted the quote, had me laughing, the calculus comment was to him being smarter then her... hes a genius and has a genius AI giving him battle information directly to him, SA tells her where to go when she gets lost. "PSH, SA the upgrades thata way"

I didn't mean to be offencive, just I'm annoyed that SA fans here just keep saying "one rocket/plasma shot/ice beem/ball bomb would win her the fight" I don't think chief would win with one hit. I wouldn't see a battle between these 2 being won in one shot/attack. However in the long run of the fight SA would keep losing health. MC shield would come back time and time again. I don't think any of SA guns would do soo much damage that MC shields would stop working, do you?

I don't think I'm better than you, I just have a differing point, which I'm trying to get across, but you keep misquoting me and ignoring my comments.

Originally posted by Dizzle
You said MC fought the ring world. He didn't. He fought the guardians of a ring world, which is different. The ring world didn't get up and swat at Master Chief. Samus has fought the entire populations of planets many a time and won. Mother Brain, Ridley, or Metroid Prime would absolutely beat the crap out of ANY enemy in Halo. Don't try to compare what the 2 fight against.

I never said Samus would kill Chief with morph ball bombs. The ball is very fast and very small, making it very very hard to hit. She can use it to gain a better postion, the bombs would be used to distract MC more than hurt him.

I said missiles would kill MC. Size is nothing. How many shots can MC take square on from a rocket launcher? That's what I thought. The ice cannon's main purpose is to slow the opponent. Master Chief can withstand a few blasts of plasma, but not a constant stream of it. I never said one standard shot would blow him up, but you claimed that anything that Samus shoots MC with is easily recoverable, which is simply untrue. A shot from the plasma cannon would do a good amount of damage. The ice cannon would slow him down enough to be targeted. Missiles and Super Missiles would each kill him with a direct hit.

Sparkshine and Screw Attack are insanely powerful attacks. Master Chief would literally be torn to bits. He can punch better, but that doesn't matter when she has close range attacks that powerful.

If MC tries to cut Samus with a sword, she blasts him as he tries to get in close. His biggest handicap is not carrying extra weapons aside from grenades.

I love how you decide to insult my "level of argument" when A: Yours hasn't gone deeper than "Master Chief is bigger so he can take all of her shots" and "Master Chief can obviously outdodge and outmaneuver Samus cuz he does Calculus in the all knowing fanbook".
And B: Insulting me just makes your argument seem more desperate when I point it out... And pointing it out makes me seem just as low. And then you'll point that out, and we can start a cycle into infinity. Seriously, the first life lesson you need to take from this is that you're never actually better than anyone, despite how much you might think you are.

wow good point

Well, Master chief does have better armour that protects is a better marksman, is luckier and smarter

But samus armour has better weapons integrated into her armour and autoaim.

Ultimatley however samus's armour is much less protective than mc's a single battle rifle burst to the head and she's toast, master chief also has his intelligence and luck advantages. That all being said it comes down to what mastercheif is armed with. samus is also capable of missing with her autoaim so as long as mastercheif is armed with something at least as powerful as a magnum he could pull it off.

oh yes... she traverses volcanic temperatures. but oh no.. not the godly battle rifle bullet 🙄 ... and I bet if they made a book about samus... they'd talk alot about her auto aim also.. /end sarcasm

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
oh yes... she traverses volcanic temperatures. but oh no.. not the godly battle rifle bullet 🙄 ... and I bet if they made a book about samus... they'd talk alot about her auto aim also.. /end sarcasm
lol

Originally posted by Dizzle
Brain, Ridley, or Metroid Prime would absolutely beat the crap out of ANY enemy in Halo.

(very sarcastically)
Yes, I can really see ridley taking on a Scorpion Tank.

no but i could se quadrix takeing on a scorpion tank

My point with the ball is that Samus can get out of a bad situation using the morph ball, not that she would actually fight MC with it.

A direct hit from a rocket would kill Master Chief. You can't possibly be saying that he could dodge every missile that Samus shoots at him. One good hit is enough. Super Missiles fit mostly as an overkill in the event that Samus tags MC with an ice cannon shot.

If Samus actually gets in close, MC isn't dodging a screw attack. It's not like a punching combo, it's Samus launching her suit at MC. Much much harder to dodge, his reactions aren't THAT good.

I never said Samus would win in one hit from anything but missiles...

MC has the reflexes of his own catalyst implant, plus the MJOLNIR suit, and Cortana buffed the interface to make it even faster. With the speed at which the missiles travel in-game in the Metroid series, I doubt that the Chief would be slow enough to dodge one.

Even if it connected...

He once stood down a Scorpion missile, intended for destroying tanks by the same name, and survived with a torn Achilles tendon, and several bruises.

You are forgetting his biggest tactical asset. It's not his suit, it's not ranged weapons, it's Cortana.
She could easily hack into Samus's suit(mind, she got through High Charity's security systems in ten seconds, tops. Considering that's pretty much the Covenant home planet, it would be wise to consider that a great achievement) and cause her to lose her primary weapons systems so that all she would be left is the power beam. Not even morph ball.

this is only between samus and MC not cortana or anything like that 1 on 1 no help from other ppl

I can only guess by now the point your trying to make is that she will get into a morph ball to run away? I suppose if there's a drain system that might be handy but if its open arena shes still gonner get shot....

MC can dodge bullets, not a machine gun... but at least 5/6 fired at him, single round are not a problem.... so how can a big lumbering mass hit him???? shes not as quick as a bullet and correct me if I'm wrong but the screw attack only goes in a straight line. Sidestepping is MC forty...
I'm not trying to lie to you about MC's abilities, he is just that dam good...

This super missile argument is the same as if MC had a rocket launcher... cept he can fire 2 rockets where as she only has 1 super missile.

MC could still cut SA in half with the sword, I would hate for MC to win like this, but do you guys think that she would be able to stand being cut by it???

Lol satsujin thats the .... erm I forget how many times your have said "SA can traverse volcanic areas" and I keep telling you she dies doing it.... SHE TAKES DAMAGE FROM A SIMPLE FLAME TRAP!!!! I think shes gonner take damage from a bullet... what are the space pirates weapons??? (I don't actually know)

LOL shadow do you know who cortana is??? SHES PART OF HIS SUIT! just as much as any of SA power ups are apart of SA suit...

As much as I think your right about cortana DarkC I was told by my friend that SA has similar hacking abilites... although I know nothing of them.... however I remember there being an enemy in MPE that hacks SA though her aiming..... c

Originally posted by shadow12
this is only between samus and MC not cortana or anything like that 1 on 1 no help from other ppl

She was given to the Chief to use, therefore she is a tool to help him achieve his objectives. So she does count.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Lol satsujin thats the .... erm I forget how many times your have said "SA can traverse volcanic areas" and I keep telling you she dies doing it.... SHE TAKES DAMAGE FROM A SIMPLE FLAME TRAP!!!! I think shes gonner take damage from a bullet... what are the space pirates weapons??? (I don't actually know)
because people who waltz in and think samus can be killed by a bullet ( when bullet technology is so old it doesnt even exist in the metroid universe ), need to be re-informed.. and I'll re-inform as necessary.. and you can tell me all you want.. but when you see samus traverse these high tempuratures yet again (since you've said you've played prime), you should know she doesnt die..and most of samus' enemies use energy based weaponry that tries to replicate samus' chozo technology (and fail)

you and your halo posse repeat your book information.. so I'll repeat whatever is needed for the metroid universe

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
and most of samus' enemies use energy based weaponry that tries to replicate samus' chozo technology (and fail)

Every single one of Chief's enemies uses technology far superior to human technology, and he still kills them.

What are your facts based on, Sats, that she can't be affected by bullets? For all we know, her armour is thin, skintight even, in some places, and can be affected by impacts.
What you said here contradicts yourself in the fact that they use energy-based weapons. So her armor is adapted to combat those particular brand, not elsewise. And in the few instances that she encountered melee situations, she gets damaged.

(She gets damaged by bouncing off a floating shelled bug thing? 🤨 )

It reminds me of the Star Wars world in a way. The Jedi use lightsabers, which deflect blaster bolts, but you can easily put one down by blasting a load of buckshot in his/her face.

As for samu she gets beat up pretty bad in melee situations, as for withstanding volcaninc temperatures, MC's suit can as well but he still gets pwned by a BR to the face,at close range Mc can counter samus's screw attack the same way he counters elites with swords, the second before she hits him he blows her away point blank with a shotty, long range he owns with a sniper/BR, He also has plasma grenades if samus gets too close/if he outsmarts her (which chances are he would). Samus suit repels energy attacks but energy attacks aren't designed to puncture like ballistic attacks are, her suit is very thin and has no shielding so bullets could pwn her, Not only that but Mc's also much faster. Master cheifs superior intelligence and speed give him major advantages that can compensate for samus's superior firepower and autoaim, He fights tons of opponents with better weapons often many at the same time yet he often comes away without a scratch, so weapons won't be much of a factor. With his aim he also basically equals autoaim so He can definitley pull it off.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
because people who waltz in and think samus can be killed by a bullet ( when bullet technology is so old it doesnt even exist in the metroid universe ), need to be re-informed.. and I'll re-inform as necessary.. and you can tell me all you want.. but when you see samus traverse these high tempuratures yet again (since you've said you've played prime), you should know she doesnt die..and most of samus' enemies use energy based weaponry that tries to replicate samus' chozo technology (and fail)

you and your halo posse repeat your book information.. so I'll repeat whatever is needed for the metroid universe

Lol fire technology has been around since the caveman.... But it still damages her, obviously the chozo saw fire as such a uber technology they didn't design SA suit to stand it....

I have played and big woop she can jump from rock to rock to avoid larva thats not the same as wading though it..... and we both know she doesn't last a single minute in lava....

The point being I already proved your point wrong so why keep arguing it???

Can MC last in lava also?

Can MC last in fire?

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Lol fire technology has been around since the caveman.... But it still damages her, obviously the chozo saw fire as such a uber technology they didn't design SA suit to stand it....

I have played and big woop she can jump from rock to rock to avoid larva thats not the same as wading though it..... and we both know she doesn't last a single minute in lava....

The point being I already proved your point wrong so why keep arguing it???

you didnt.. as your name says.. you've hit and missed... in super metroid.. samus wades through a volcanic liquid (its origins unknown) in the zone called Norfair... surely you've heard of it right? i mean.. you played the games and what not 🙂 .. that zone can NOT be traversed without the temperature resistance of the varia suit

being in lava and withstanding volcanic temperatures are obviously different things however.. can masterchief stand inside a volcano (without going 'in' the lava)? samus can.. she can prolly setup a picnic table down there too 😛