Master Chief vs Samus Aran

A lot of people here forget that Chief can only have one type of weapon, or 2 single hand weapons. He is not able to carry both a sword and a rifle. Samus constantly has access to all of her weapons. So if Chief gets a rocket launcher, he ONLY gets a rocket launcher. If he has a sword he ONLY has a sword. In case #1, Samus also has missiles, as well as a lot more health. In case #2, Chief won't be able to get close to Samus without some kind of guns for distraction.

Samus's suit is skintight, but it doesn't have holes... Lava and the like would kill her if it did. Bullets are obsolete in Metroid. They will do nothing. Most people here are undercutting Samus's armor. 15 energy tanks takes a LOT to drain.

Cortana is not usable because A: She's a sentient mind outside Master Chief, and B: Samus has her own hacking abilities, and it is close enough to impossible to tell who's is better. This has been gone over.

As to Spark Shine and Screw Attack, Chief is not dodging something as big as Samus from a few feet away. I wouldn't have Samus using either unless it actually came down to a melee fight. Outside of that, If Chief tries to get clsoe he gets blasted.

Samus has more than enough experience not to get beaten by brains alone.

Jedi's don't have armor. A lightsaber could block a bullet perfectly fine, that's not even an issue. But a wide spread shot would be hard to completely deflect, so some of it might hit the Jedi's body directly. Completely different from Samus.

Originally posted by DarkC
Every single one of Chief's enemies uses technology far superior to human technology, and he still kills them.

What are your facts based on, Sats, that she can't be affected by bullets? For all we know, her armour is thin, skintight even, in some places, and can be affected by impacts.
What you said here contradicts yourself in the fact that they use energy-based weapons. So her armor is adapted to combat those particular brand, not elsewise. And in the few instances that she encountered melee situations, she gets damaged.

(She gets damaged by bouncing off a floating shelled bug thing? 🤨 )

It reminds me of the Star Wars world in a way. The Jedi use lightsabers, which deflect blaster bolts, but you can easily put one down by blasting a load of buckshot in his/her face.

well.. as far as I knew.. chiefs armor technology is based upon covenant and forerunner technology.. they use the same shield system.. plus chief HAS to still kill them.. would he be chief if he didnt? thats like Neo getting one hit KOed by an agent while in the matrix.. it doesnt happen because he's the main character

and yes (in regards to human tech of earth).. thats precisely my point.. if a suit can survive energy / plasma based weaponry.. then how can something as primitive as a bullet cause any kind of worry..

chief gets pwnt by bullets when his forerunner shield drops.. as for samus I can speculate she would survive simply because she never uses any means of secondary shielding other than her energy tanks

MC has a cooling/heating layer in his suit... he would survive just fine in the volcanic environment.. Halo was originally going to have a flame gun in it, however it never made it in, i believe the developers realised it would do to little damage to chief and dropped it. don't be silly satsujin we have been over this about SA surviving in lava....

Drizzle this is a fair fight so MC could take 2/3 weapons in... he carries 2 standard, but could duel wield 2 guns.... so he could take in sword and covenant rocket launcher (carries 5 missiles quick firing)...

The "primitive bullet" topic.... In halo2 MC shields can with stand more bullets then plasma.... However his suit can survive more plasma then bullets... so its a draw in term of damage.
What is SA visor made out of??? could a bullet not penetrate that? all human bullets in the travel much faster then plasma shots....
SA maybe immune to bullets from this era, but not that of bullets in the future.... the sniper rifle is capable of killing MC in one shot... SA would feel bullets....

When MC shield drops he armor is able to withstand some damage just not head shots.... SA instantly DIES!

"Cortana is not usable because A: She's a sentient mind outside Master Chief, and B: Samus has her own hacking abilities, and it is close enough to impossible to tell who's is better. This has been gone over."

Yes but thinking about it SA can get hacked by the enemy in MPE, MC doesn't MC AI talks to him about the situation and provides vital information about the surroundings....

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
well.. as far as I knew.. chiefs armor technology is based upon covenant and forerunner technology.. they use the same shield system.. plus chief HAS to still kill them.. would he be chief if he didnt? thats like Neo getting one hit KOed by an agent while in the matrix..

MC has fought the covenant without his suit and still won. This training and skills gave him the edge over the covenant. SA has never though without her suit (excpt when you use the cheat but cheats arn't part of a chars cannon, or MC can fly) she wouldn't survive without it. MC Suit is very advanced in the halo world but as guilty spark 343 says "why do you use such ineffective weapons to fight"
MC suit and weapons isn't his greatest asset, its his physical strenght. reactions, tactical trainning and mind.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
it doesnt happen because he's the main character

The same is then true for SA.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
What is SA visor made out of??? could a bullet not penetrate that? all human bullets in the travel much faster then plasma shots....
SA maybe immune to bullets from this era, but not that of bullets in the future.... the sniper rifle is capable of killing MC in one shot... SA would feel bullets....

When MC shield drops he armor is able to withstand some damage just not head shots.... SA instantly DIES!

"Cortana is not usable because A: She's a sentient mind outside Master Chief, and B: Samus has her own hacking abilities, and it is close enough to impossible to tell who's is better. This has been gone over."

Yes but thinking about it SA can get hacked by the enemy in MPE, MC doesn't MC AI talks to him about the situation and provides vital information about the surroundings....

- If the metroid primes claw couldnt whale through it Im sure a bullet would have a hard time

- You forget it takes her like 20 energy tanks to die.. and she doesnt have secondary shielding (which shows her suit is sufficient enough).. chief goes down in 1 battle rifle burst while unshielded

-As for hacking and what not, I can consider this to be an equal ground.. as samus can do a quick check and diagnose the faulties in MC's armor

and yes.. bullets travel much faster than plasma in a game setting.. but they also leave a more lasting burn than bullets

as for the volcano.. someone needs a return trip to norfair

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MC has fought the covenant without his suit and still won. This training and skills gave him the edge over the covenant. SA has never though without her suit (excpt when you use the cheat but cheats arn't part of a chars cannon, or MC can fly) she wouldn't survive without it. MC Suit is very advanced in the halo world but as guilty spark 343 says "why do you use such ineffective weapons to fight"
MC suit and weapons isn't his greatest asset, its his physical strenght. reactions, tactical trainning and mind.

lol.. and you think samus having been a solo bounty hunter since she left the chozo doesnt give her deadly assets? It takes ALOT of wits to survive isolated from humanity for such prolonged amounts of time.. chief always has cortana to keep him company

The same is then true for SA.

Of course.. because the real discussion lies between the two characters... as we know they've both killed quite a bit of baddies in their time, which just leaves it down to them and their abilities

Originally posted by Dizzle
A lot of people here forget that Chief can only have one type of weapon. He is not able to carry both a sword and a rifle.

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Have you not used the Y button when playing Halo?

Unless that's something quoted from the books... 😕

It's not in the books.

and yes (in regards to human tech of earth).. thats precisely my point.. if a suit can survive energy / plasma based weaponry.. then how can something as primitive as a bullet cause any kind of worry..

That's actually not an accurate assessment. Considering that the two do entirely different types of 'damage', it's plausible that something could be afflicted by bullets but highly resistant to plasma and vice versa. Plasma hits and causes 'burn damage', so to speak - it melts through whatever it slams into. A bullet, however, is a small object 'tossed' at high speed in order to penetrate whatever it slams into. It's entirely possible that Samus' suit can withstand the energy and heat of plasma, but not the impact of a bullet.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
- lol.. and you think samus having been a solo bounty hunter since she left the chozo doesnt give her deadly assets? It takes ALOT of wits to survive isolated from humanity for such prolonged amounts of time.. chief always has cortana to keep him company

Your telling me her "deadly assets" are too look after herself??? someone better call the police I've just got some new "deadly skills"....🙄
All that time by herself means she has no social skills... hows that gonner help her??? although it does say something about her mental stability most women don't last that long without boyfriends before they turn to "crazy cat ladies"....(sorry ladies I'm just joking)

Although your right too, MC has never had to cook for himself or iron his suit like SA has... Maybe she might be able to poison him with her cooking abilities, We all know soldiers survive on "basic rations" anything SA cooks MC will wolf down....

Being able to survive means nothing... The scorpion is one of the best adapted animal to survive, (hasn't changed its body structure since before the dinosaurs)... still I can stamp on one... the point being she might be able to look after herself but that won't help here....

lol Dave the correct term for them is "The Scriptures" your talking about my religion here.... 😂

Wander is right though......

I chose Samus cuz I'm getting tired of halo.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
That's actually not an accurate assessment. Considering that the two do entirely different types of 'damage', it's plausible that something could be afflicted by bullets but highly resistant to plasma and vice versa. Plasma hits and causes 'burn damage', so to speak - it melts through whatever it slams into. A bullet, however, is a small object 'tossed' at high speed in order to penetrate whatever it slams into. It's entirely possible that Samus' suit can withstand the energy and heat of plasma, but not the impact of a bullet.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Your telling me her "deadly assets" are too look after herself??? someone better call the police I've just got some new "deadly skills"....🙄

Being able to survive means nothing... The scorpion is one of the best adapted animal to survive, (hasn't changed its body structure since before the dinosaurs)... still I can stamp on one... the point being she might be able to look after herself but that won't help here....

Originally posted by DaRk Lotus
I chose Samus cuz I'm getting tired of halo.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
lol.. shoot a tank with a bullet.. then melt it.. see which destroys it faster...

Samus's suit was built for flexibility and range of movement, not to mention to withstand the energy weapons that her enemies, the space pirates used.

A tank's armoured plating was built to withstand as much damage as possible, simply put. At a cost, its movement is greatly decreased.

So you can see clearly that they're two different things. I don't understand why you're considering a tank relevant to this part of the discussion.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
being able to survive means nothing? 🤨 LMFAO!
dude.. hell no.. that is possibly the most hypocritical thing you've said.. survivability is everything in this battle.. it will determine who walks away and who lays there on the ground wondering what hit them.. how can surivability not make a difference? it teaches you discipline, and to keep cool even when the odds are lookin shitty.. when you say survivability means nothing.. you just took a steaming dump on all the gaming heroes of our era

oh dear, cause SA can survive on her own in space isn't the same as surviving in combat!!! I.E. In aliens there's the little girl that survives all the aliens taking over the human base where everyone else dies... however shes not exactly gonner kill any of them, there's surviving...

The same is said for samus...sure she can cook and look after herself but surviving in space isn't that hard...look at all the astronauts that can do it 😂 ...lol look at all the survival experts out there... sure they can live off a tree and some beans but there not exactly gonner survive in a war... there are different lvls of survival. SA surviving in space on her own isn't exactly a great deal...

Or did I forget that the contest was who can live on a campsite the longest? I would say SA all those years erecting tents and starting fires to survive must of been... Oh yer she lived in a comfy space ship, with all the mod cons. her survival in space hasn't exactly been a hard one now has it????

Yeah, and even though Samus has quite an arsenal (especially in Echoes) Master Chief has every weapon available in the game (correct me if I'm wrong) and he can ride on vehicles. Ie: Tanks, those hovery things, Banshees? I never played Halo 2. But I say Master Chief.

MASTER CHIEF!!!
Spartan 117 takes this. He turned the tide of the war by himself.

A couple things...

First, I meant Master Chief can't use a rifle and a sword at the same time. Dual wielding is for single handed guns only. MC has only the weapons that he carries in his hands at any given time.

By surviving, Sats meant going solo against entire races and winning. Slaughtering countless metroids, space pirates, and plenty of other bad little critters that got in her way. He's saying that she is no stranger to battle, and will certainly not be outstrategized by Chief in the field. Not that she can cook.

Samus has taken plenty of physical shots before without being crushed. Kraid is pretty freaking huge, as is Metroid Prime. Bullets won't do much.

It's already been settled that if MC gets tanks, Samus gets her little ship. Which would absolutely demolish any of the pitiful Halo tanks.

Samus doesn't use a shield... She only dies when all of her health is depleted, which takes quite a while. Every hit she takes is striking the armor directly. MC dies very very quickly without a shield. Not always 1 hit, but usually not many.

And while Chief fights in a war assisted by an army, Samus takes on whole freaking armies by herself. Who's got more balls now! ... ... ... The figurative balls, of course.

Originally posted by Dizzle
First, I meant Master Chief can't use a rifle and a sword at the same time. Dual wielding is for single handed guns only. MC has only the weapons that he carries in his hands at any given time.

By surviving, Sats meant going solo against entire races and winning. Slaughtering countless metroids, space pirates, and plenty of other bad little critters that got in her way. He's saying that she is no stranger to battle, and will certainly not be outstrategized by Chief in the field. Not that she can cook.

Samus has taken plenty of physical shots before without being crushed. Kraid is pretty freaking huge, as is Metroid Prime. Bullets won't do much.
And while Chief fights in a war assisted by an army, Samus takes on whole freaking armies by herself. Who's got more balls now! ... ... ... The figurative balls, of course.

Can samus use 2 guns at the same time? I don't get your point...

Again.... MC Has a very fast thinking time, so where are you and me have to ponder about ideas, MC already knows the answer. Combined with his Vast tactical knowledge and years of fighting, he can quickly think of cleaver ideas in battle. also hes a genius. He also has Cortana another genius, telling him about the surrounding and scanning the enemy. Yes SA has experience and has though some tuff things... but her equipment tells her its weakness not her brain, Until you prove that SA has got superior IQ then a standard human I will conclude that MC is smarter then SA. I just don't see anywhere in the game where SA shows her great intellect. All the puzzles in the game were really easy as well.

Bullets won't crush her.. But they will do damage. Remember SA rate of fire is very slow. MC can dodge bullets from a pistol quite easily so you have to remember SA shots hitting him are going to be few and far between. So if SA gets closer to increase the chance of shots landing, she wll get hit....

SA has the chozo technology inside her own body, thanks to that she has both phisically and mentally far superior than a normal human.And MC can be very skilled and have years of training fighting wars,but samus also fough wars against very superior enemies since she was a little kid.And probally her armor is a lot stronger than mcs armor.Although MC armor has a healing factor , it wont be fast enough for samus massive beams.She can hit him with the ligh beam , which is as fast as the light.