Are American troops undisciplined thugs dressed as soldiers?

Lil b, i wish i could apologise on behalf of others who attack you but i cant.
those are their words and not mine.

and as for zero, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but he uses straw man tactics like an idiot. never have i said our military is so great and should be allowed to run rampant. i simply wont agree that every man and woman who chooses to put their life on the line for their country is an assh0le.

does that really make me a fool? please let me know.

and as far as zero gloating about 911, as if people deserve to be murdered because they wont spit on their own soldiers because of the actions of a few, im sorry, but that is truely sickening.

like i said, i think it was wrong for you to be attacked like that.
however, i think that gloating over the deaths of thousands, whether it be americans OR iraqis, is way more sickening.

and maybe you say that he's right because you are worked up and havent explored the nature of his words...i hope so

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Erm, didnt you read what Sauron just told Mr Zero?! I am here, thanks, no need to be reporting anything.

No i don't think you are handling this properly your opinion at the moment is biased

Zero is the one starting the insults 😉

what's sickening about that?

You didn't want to prove something you claimed...so i called you a liar.

There's nothing sickening about that. You proved what you claimed, and I completely changed my tone.

You Europeans need to stop telling Americans as a whole how they feel about the war. If you aren't American, who are you to say how we feel about it?

Any and everyone America kills most certainly is not guilty, and no American in here would ever make that claim. Only Europeans, particularly the British, would make that claim on behalf of America.

Hell you guys can't even take responsibility for your part in the war. it's all America's fault...blah blah blah. Well then why didn't the British do as the Germans and French and just sit out a spell.

Did anybody see what i said to him?

I have a better question, did you see how he provoked me by insulting me because i asked a simple question?

Oh and btw- dont take it out on American soldiers, they do what they are told to do, of course some are sick, but as you said yourself you get people who enjoy it in every army. 😊
If you want to be against america and its war then blame the government, not the people sent out there to go risk their lives.

Sorry, but i dont think any of them want to be 100 yards from sombody who is going to videotape their execution.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
what's sickening about that?

You didn't want to prove something you claimed...so i called you a liar.

There's nothing sickening about that. You proved what you claimed, and I completely changed my tone.

You Europeans need to stop telling Americans as a whole how they feel about the war. If you aren't American, who are you to say how we feel about it?

Any and everyone America kills most certainly is not guilty, and no American in here would ever make that claim. Only Europeans, particularly the British, would make that claim on behalf of America.

Hell you guys can't even take responsibility for your part in the war. it's all America's fault...blah blah blah. Well then why didn't the British do as the Germans and French and just sit out a spell.

Hey, leave the Brits alone weep the only think thats bad about us is the teeth

We are in this war the same reason you are. Our leader thinks its a good idea, even though the public as a majority disagree. So here we are, a year and a bit down, thousands of troop deaths and several kidnappings later, stcuk in the same boat as America.

Face it, we are stuck together, every other country hates us 😆

indeed

Originally posted by Mr Zero
In a situation where you can’t tell the fighters from the civilians where does that leave you?

In your amoral murder – fest outlined above where no “rules” of conduct apply and it’s just “murder the enemy” I’m assuming you are aware that – since certain groups consider all Americans the enemy that your advocating terrorism. Next time a plane flys into a scyscraper I expect you to shrug and say “It's kill or be killed, there is no morals.” If not, please explain to me how your definition of “enemy” (a native of the area, not a trained soldier, resisting an invasion by a foreign power) is valid and defensible but someone who decides all Americans are the enemy of Allah is to be convinced they are mistaken and should play by “the rules” as defined by you.

Lack of training doesn't make a soldier any less of a soldier, and THAT'S the enemy. The soldiers are the opposing hostile forces. Iraqi civilians that aren't hostile aren't the enemy. The second a civilian whips out a gun and starts firing at our troops, he isn't a civilian anymore, he's an enemy soldier and a target, and should be neutralized immediately. The planes flying into a skyscraper was NOT WAR, which is what I'm addressing.

The rules as defined by me? You won't catch me making any rules to war, there shouldn't be any rules other than the common sense "don't kill non-hostile civilains".

And Lil B: You said the war you lived through ended 15 years ago? Which would make you 4 years old at the time? And that makes you an expert? Are you serious? Unless you held a rifle in your hands and ran into battle, you aren't in any position to act the way you are acting. And if you have run into battle, then consider my remarks void, and accept my apologies.

And all of you arguing against me make it sound as if I condone the ****ing war in the first place, which I don't. I do condone that in war "the end justifies the means". When the objective is to kill every hostile opponent, there is no room for morals. The war never should have started, but it did anyway, and now the objective is not to look back and say "Oh this war is unnecessary and an atrocity. These troops shouldn't be doing these things. We should be acting better than that", but to say "What can we do to win?"

Ah, how refreshing. Europeans and Liberals (and *gasp*, Euro-liberals!) talking smack about America's role in Iraq. How pathetic.

...and of course Zero is right on top of the pile of ignorance, where he loves to be. It cracks me up how you morons defend your mass media regurgitations by claiming its your opinion and its your right to speak it. Go shove your opinion up your a$$ for all its worth, you rabble rousing clucking hens.

...Oh yeah, and enjoy the next four years of Bush, may it drive you to suicide.

Totally agree Sauron. I personally believe that WE are in this together and I'd like to see Americans and the British be a little more united in our views towards the war.

but the feedback on this board is nothing but a bunch of hatred towards Americans.

I know we are together in it, which is why i have taken to defedning America when my lovely little english friends decide to blame just about every catastophe in the world on you.
England is part of Europe and Americas leading ally, we should be bridging the gap between America and Europe, after all the only way to get any closer to sorting out the world is if we are united. But apparently France is having too much fun laughing at us both to allow any sort of unity 😊

God Bless France 😖

Originally posted by Linkalicious

but the feedback on this board is nothing but a bunch of hatred towards Americans.

Do you really sense that? It is obvious that there is some difference of opinions, but hatred towards Americans? No, I disagree.

When lil bitchiness and Linkalicious enter into a discussion with each other, it always turns out like this and I' m honestly getting tired of it.

That's why I continue to ask them to please keep personal comments out and just stick to the topic. I understand Storm, but sometimes is best to stay out. We really need to keep discussions on topic.

I dont even think this threads topic is worth discussing anymore. It obviously bothers some people, and the fact it bothers some bothers others.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Totally agree Sauron. I personally believe that WE are in this together and I'd like to see Americans and the British be a little more united in our views towards the war.

but the feedback on this board is nothing but a bunch of hatred towards Americans.

Why would they agree with us about the war? To them, we've just re-elected the man who started it.

lil you really consider this: "American soldiers are the best in the world, anyone & everyone they kill is guilty, and god help you all for wondering why the East hates you enough to kill you in cold blood as you stare out your skyscraper windows." the truth?

Originally posted by Fire
lil you really consider this: "American soldiers are the best in the world, anyone & everyone they kill is guilty, and god help you all for wondering why the East hates you enough to kill you in cold blood as you stare out your skyscraper windows." the truth?

Its sacrasm. I get what he is saying, unlike many people here.

Actually i think its people who dont get what your saying.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak

And Lil B: You said the war you lived through ended 15 years ago? Which would make you 4 years old at the time? And that makes you an expert? Are you serious? Unless you held a rifle in your hands and ran into battle, you aren't in any position to act the way you are acting. And if you have run into battle, then consider my remarks void, and accept my apologies.

Please, oh please for the love of god re-read this thread, then go research THEN come back and talk - you dont know what we're talking about, so keep me out of it.

Hell you guys can't even take responsibility for your part in the war. it's all America's fault...blah blah blah. Well then why didn't the British do as the Germans and French and just sit out a spell.