Originally posted by Cipher
If that legend were true, we'd all be inbred.......Truly disturbing.
And what was the point the point of having a tree that they weren't allowed to eat from? Why would such a thing be put there if it were so bad? Even better, why make it at all?
The first humans might well have no genetic defects. It might take centuries for the bad genes that cause inbreeding when incestful conduct is enacted to mutate into existence.
Free choice. Mankind choose sin. As I said in my commentaries, they choose to sin after eating the food (when they passed the blame).
Originally posted by Ytaker
Free choice. Mankind choose sin. As I said in my commentaries, they choose to sin after eating the food (when they passed the blame).
But: "Because you listened to your wife's voice and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'Do not eat from it' ..."
You claim that the sin was shifting the blame, but God himself seems to agree with Adam that his fault was in listening to his wife's bad idea.
Originally posted by Cipher
And what was the point the point of having a tree that they weren't allowed to eat from? Why would such a thing be put there if it were so bad? Even better, why make it at all?
If God is omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing) and omnipresent (all places at all times) than why did he create Sin?
I know what you are going to say: God didn't create Sin Satan did.
Well step back for a minute and think about this:
1. God created the universe and all that exists within. (The Christian claim, of course, not mine!)
2. Sin exists in the universe.
3. Therefore, God created sin.
The Book Of John: Chapter 1 Verse 1 - 3
1:1 In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God.
1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
1:3 All things were made by him (Jesus/God); and without him (Jesus/God) was not any thing made that was made.
Yes, Satan is claimed to have propagated sin, convincing humans to give in to their sinful natures. But God's the one who set the ground rules, not only defining what is sin but creating beings who have the capacity to sin.
In my view, this makes God responsible for sin and its consequences. After all, if someone designed a car in which the driver could maliciously press a button and eject a passenger, they are complicit in the resulting deaths even if they personally didn't eject those passengers.
In addition, because God supposedly created us, one could argue that God is as responsible to humans as we are to our children. If so, God was guilty of neglect and endangerment by leaving the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. After all, if you left a loaded gun in a room with your child, you'd be guilty of neglect and endangerment no matter how often you told them not to play with the gun.
Besides, unless God was exceedingly stupid, God had to know what Adam and Eve would do in Eden, and is therefore complicit in their sin. 😉
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"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (James 1:13)
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"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (Gen 22:1)
Hehe looks like God got caught in a lie again. 😛
If you believe in the original jewish story of adam and eve, adam was the first man, but complained that he didnt have a mate (all of the other animals did).
So god made a woman 'lilith' out of muddy earth (whereas he made adam out of clean earth), so she went bad and left adam to sleep with loads of demons.
Then god tried other ways of making a mate for adam (apparently, one was made out of his tail, and one was made out of his 2nd face - he originallly had 2 faces) , and only on his 5th try did he create eve (out of his rib)
Originally posted by Cipher
If that legend were true, we'd all be inbred.......Truly disturbing.
And what was the point the point of having a tree that they weren't allowed to eat from? Why would such a thing be put there if it were so bad? Even better, why make it at all?
And WHAT is wrong with incest eh? you judgemental sipher! 😠
if you look as the supposed geneology of the first 10 generations of biblical characters, there is about 10 or more generations alive at the same time (just before the flood). That must have been hella confusing. It would be like, "are you my great great great grandad or my great great great great grandad?"
Originally posted by eleveninchesNow tell me after reading about the original Jewish story of Adam, Lilith, and Eve anyone could come to the conclusion that God/Bible is infallible is beyond me. The book is nothing more than oral tradition passed down for centuries until someone decided to write them down. Wow I guess we all know a little game called telephone by now.
If you believe in the original jewish story of adam and eve, adam was the first man, but complained that he didnt have a mate (all of the other animals did).
So god made a woman 'lilith' out of muddy earth (whereas he made adam out of clean earth), so she went bad and left adam to sleep with loads of demons.
Then god tried other ways of making a mate for adam (apparently, one was made out of his tail, and one was made out of his 2nd face - he originallly had 2 faces) , and only on his 5th try did he create eve (out of his rib)
If you line up a certain amount of people in a line (more that 25) and tell a story to the first person in line, by the time you get to the last person you will have a completely different story.That is what has happened to the Bible and all other Religious texts over the years.
Once a group of people decided to change any type of scripture to fit their own social, economical, and political views the text becomes corrupted and therefore void of its original propose.