who created god

I would think at the point where it ceases to be a primitive theory or belief. Something can only make sense when it doesn't require blind faith to be posed as real.

what point in the bible is supposed to be primitive and needs more faith than any other theory/belief?

Please, the mere idea of an omnipotent being who is unexplainable in the first place and posing as an answer to everything is ridiculous and without any substance. It needs more faith than anything else because it cannot be either scientifically, nor logically proven. Other theories can at least be logically proven. The idea of a God hangs in thin air!

the point is that we wouldnt be able to understand where and how god could exist (according to the bible)
i think creationism is just as scientifically as any other theories/beliefs... 🙂 ..... logically proven... you mean "man think that theyre right because it seems logically to them" ? ah i see...

Originally posted by Philosophicus
The IQ of most people is between 90 and 110 - that's not very bright. Mine and I think yours as well is way beyond that. My highest score was 189. So, most people are unintelligent - they never reflect in a philosophical way. Also, it's a logical contradiction to say that most people ARE intelligent, because then you undermine the definition of intelligence. How can one define genius when most people are intelligent - most people simply by logical implication must be unintelligent.

An intelligence quotient is representative of how one thinks, not what one knows. But someone as "intelligent" as you already knows this. 🙄

to me intelligece is define by gene, mimicry, and experience. That was before I found out that other people define it by gene and environment, so I believe I got it right... does that make me intelligent?

...with intelligence you can create kowledge...<--- is it wrong? maybe..

Intelligence is not the subject of this thread.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
An intelligence quotient is representative of how one thinks, not what one knows. But someone as "intelligent" as you already knows this. 🙄

I agree - real IQ tests DO in fact test How one thinks.

DuronKiller, Creationism is definately not scientific. That is the whole point of faith - one has to believe in God because he cannot be proven and the mere idea of him existing is irrational. 🙂

Originally posted by Philosophicus
I agree - real IQ tests DO in fact test How one thinks.

DuronKiller, Creationism is definately not scientific. That is the whole point of faith - one has to believe in God because he cannot be proven and the mere idea of him existing is irrational. 🙂

we cant prove god as we cant prove any other theory... god is irrational just because the human brain is too dumb to understand how god can exist?
we can only disprove theories and beliefs by carrying facts together to see what theory or belief is wrong... but i dont remember god being disproven by any facts...

Sorry, I can't argue with someone who is irrational. Lots of theories, including evolution has been proven - it's accepted by scientists as a fact.

well scientist believe it to be a fact, who knows scientist might be wrong

It's not a question of being right or wrong, but of making sense - some things make more sense than others. finti - whose side are you on - theists or atheists???

im on my side, both theist and atheist are equally guilty of not making sense about a lot of thing

Originally posted by finti
im on my side, both theist and atheist are equally guilty of not making sense about a lot of thing

NO. the atheist merely doesn't superimpose a god onto the world - he takes the world at face value, but the theist does paste a god on top of everything and that needs explanation.

its how some atheist explain how we came to be that sometimes doesnt make sense

Sorry, I can't argue with someone who is irrational. Lots of theories, including evolution has been proven - it's accepted by scientists as a fact.

You cant argue with someone who is irrational? 😂 I guess 2 irrational people arguing would be worse than just 1 huh?

Ill mention this for the millionth time, microevolution has been proven not macroevolution, there is a considerable difference between the two. Even then there is still so much that doesnt add up with the theory of evolution but you can naively keep believing that it is "has been proven".

Even then there is still so much that doesnt add up with the theory of evolution but you can niavely keep believing that it is "has been proven".

For god's sake clickclick, the micro creates and manifests the macro! And you keep on naively believing in a mysterious GOD!? 😂

finti - "its how some atheist explain how we came to be that sometimes doesnt make sense" yes, but those atheists are idiots, as I think you'll agree, right? How we came about will forever be a mystery or at least a very subjective truth.

but those atheists are idiots, as I think you'll agree, right? How we came about will forever be a mystery or at least a very subjective truth.

Originally posted by finti
still they are on the so called "your"side so thats make them guilty of not making sense, hence my earlier post

That does not make sense to me - what do you mean?