Originally posted by Julie
both of your statements cannot be true...at least at the same time.... even those who deny Him as a being, must admit that God exists at the very least as an idea....therefore it could be said that mankind invented God.something created us....even those who believe the big bang created us...would then be placing Big Bang as god
God created EVERYTHING, even the BIG BANG and all those science theories.
God created man, and man has worshipped God.
God created the UNIVERSE, and it bows to God, their Father.
Originally posted by Julie
both of your statements cannot be true...at least at the same time.... even those who deny Him as a being, must admit that God exists at the very least as an idea....therefore it could be said that mankind invented God.something created us....even those who believe the big bang created us...would then be placing Big Bang as god
God created the Big Bang too, along with all the science theories.
God created man, and man has worshipped back.
God created the universe and perhaps more, and all has and SHOULD admire the Father.
Originally posted by mega punk1235who ever created god if he created us
Simply said: anything living thing (or non-living thing) confined in finite time requires a Creator! In other words, anything that has a "beginning" requires a Creator, much like the combustion engine. Logically, something "eternal," does not. Hence, it always existed! God is "outside" time -- the source of everything.
Originally posted by ushomefree
Simply said: anything living thing (or non-living thing) confined in finite time requires a Creator! In other words, anything that has a "beginning" requires a Creator, much like the combustion engine. Logically, something "eternal," does not. Hence, it always existed! God is "outside" time -- the source of everything.
There is no reason why anything needs a creator.
Shakyamunison-
Science confirms that nothing NEVER produces something. In addition, you know this to be true logically.
We humans also know:
(1) non-life does not produce life, (2) randomness does not produce fine-tuning, (3) chaos does not produce information, (4) unconsciousness does not produce consciousness, and (5) non-reason does not produce reason.
Originally posted by ushomefree
Shakyamunison-Science confirms that nothing NEVER produces something. In addition, you know this to be true logically.
We humans also know:
(1) non-life does not produce life, (2) randomness does not produce fine-tuning, (3) chaos does not produce information, (4) unconsciousness does not produce consciousness, and (5) non-reason does not produce reason.
Please provide the scientific proof.
Originally posted by ushomefree
Shakyamunison-Science confirms that nothing NEVER produces something. In addition, you know this to be true logically.
Nothing does not exist. I never said that something came from nothing. What I say is that there is no point of creation. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, therefore, energy has always existed. The universe consists of two things, and two things only: Energy and the order of that energy.
Originally posted by ushomefree
We humans also know:(1) non-life does not produce life,
Life is the natural state of energy when the conditions are right. We will one day find that when the conditions for life are right, life will exist.
Originally posted by ushomefree
(2) randomness does not produce fine-tuning,
Not correct. See chaotic order.
Originally posted by ushomefree
(3) chaos does not produce information,
Not correct. See chaotic order.
Originally posted by ushomefree
(4) unconsciousness does not produce consciousness, and
This makes no sense.
Originally posted by ushomefree
(5) non-reason does not produce reason.
This does not make sense ether.
There are many things that cannot be defined by humans and there do exist a creator for everything that unknown force is usually termed as God, We are all not aware what is going to happen the very next minute there is always uncertainity in our lives, so there do exist a power, Science was found by humans but can you say that what all we invented and believed in the way of science is true? Never can we be confident on that. So dont bother to get a correct full proof answer as to who created God, there won't be any reply for that.
Originally posted by liebe911
There are many things that cannot be defined by humans and there do exist a creator for everything that unknown force is usually termed as God, We are all not aware what is going to happen the very next minute there is always uncertainity in our lives, so there do exist a power, Science was found by humans but can you say that what all we invented and believed in the way of science is true? Never can we be confident on that. So dont bother to get a correct full proof answer as to who created God, there won't be any reply for that.
Why do you have to have a creation?
Re: who created god
Originally posted by mega punk1235
who ever created god if he created us
Anything that begins to exist has a cause.
God is eternal; therefore, He did not begin to exist. Since He did not begin to exist He does not have a cause.
God is the uncreated Creator of all that is visible and invisible.
God is the beginning and the end (i.e. the First Cause, He Who has no cause).