Originally posted by leonheartmm
god made MAN in his own image. he made adam. then he made eve to PLEASE adam, what does that say about god's sexuality?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you mean like zeus?
lol nope. I mean Jesus's father. I dont know but I think that the Greeks God Zeus is the equivalant to Michael our father and God. That is kinda how I veiw it. Every culture has a different rendition of a God his name is different but I think that they mean the same man. I could be wrong though....
But no I mean the God the Christians believe in. Except I dont think the God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are one entity (ie the Holy Trinity) I believe that all three are different in being.
Originally posted by Tonks
lol nope. I mean Jesus's father. I dont know but I think that the Greeks God Zeus is the equivalant to Michael our father and God. That is kinda how I veiw it. Every culture has a different rendition of a God his name is different but I think that they mean the same man. I could be wrong though....But no I mean the God the Christians believe in. Except I dont think the God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are one entity (ie the Holy Trinity) I believe that all three are different in being.
What about Allah? If Allah is the same god as the christian god, then why are the beliefs of the two religions so different?
I see what you are saying but think about it. At the core of what Allah means to the people is that he is their creator and God. Now the rest of the religions, I think that their traditions and what not they are different because they have different cultures and beliefs. But if you go to the essence of that they I think that you would find it very much the same.
Originally posted by Tonks
I see what you are saying but think about it. At the core of what Allah means to the people is that he is their creator and God. Now the rest of the religions, I think that their traditions and what not they are different because they have different cultures and beliefs. But if you go to the essence of that they I think that you would find it very much the same.
What about religions that are very different at their core? There are religions that do not worship a god.
yeah that is true. So let me fine tune my definition. All religions that have worship a God.... haha I don't know how it all works out. But everytime I read up on a religion then I find that they all at the core of them have the same idea. That is why I hate fighting about who's religion is the right one.
Originally posted by Tonks
yeah that is true. So let me fine tune my definition. All religions that have worship a God.... haha I don't know how it all works out. But everytime I read up on a religion then I find that they all at the core of them have the same idea. That is why I hate fighting about who's religion is the right one.
Does God need to be worshiped, or is that just a human need?
Well I believe that God should be recognized in all things. I also believe that I can become like him, meaning a God too. For me and where I come from then He needs to be worshiped. I also believe that God gives hope and a higher goal for people, something to look up to.
I know alot of people will be against me on that one. But I think that it depends on that person. Because I can say yes he needs to be, and someone else feels completely different. So it is up to the person
Originally posted by Tonks
Well I believe that God should be recognized in all things. I also believe that I can become like him, meaning a God too. For me and where I come from then He needs to be worshiped. I also believe that God gives hope and a higher goal for people, something to look up to.I know alot of people will be against me on that one. But I think that it depends on that person. Because I can say yes he needs to be, and someone else feels completely different. So it is up to the person
But is that your need or god's need?
I dont think that it is his need necessarily, but Exodus 20:4-5 says, "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. [COLOR=red]For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God..." [/COLOR]
So I dont know... this is a good debate...
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Wow...I thought you were up for reasoned discussion...judging by your final sentence however I guess not. That is a pity.
Originally posted by inimalist
I'll discuss it, but it really isn't something I'm very knowledgeable aboutlike, I've never read through the bible, so there could be some non-debatable sections that define the gender of God, but in my personal opinion, it is too anthropomorphizing to give a human gender to our creator.
Honestly, its fear of looking a fool for my ignorance, especially given that you are fairly knowledgeable about these things.
Could God define himself through the spirit and Christ? (I'm assuming this is what incarnation means?): I don't see why not. But wouldn't that be like identity politics? Why would God have need of a self-defined gender? Did this gender exist before life, making gender a quality beyond the physical plain? Or did he gender himself in order to commune with man? And if God has a gender, that, in a nearly eastern sense, makes him only half whole, does it not? To have the 3 O characteristics, wouldn't there have to be a both female and gender neutral aspect to God?
didn't want this to get caught at the end of a page 😮
Originally posted by Tonks
I dont think that it is his need necessarily, but Exodus 20:4-5 says, "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. [COLOR=red]For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God..." [/COLOR]So I dont know... this is a good debate...
A jealous god is a god that needs. If a god needs, then that god is not complete. Do you see what I am getting at? An all powerful, all knowing God would be complete and not have any needs.
Originally posted by Tonks
okay I see where you are getting at. If God needed worship then everyone would worship him. Obviously he doesnt need it because we have people that dont. If He needed it then He would be a God of force but He isn't. He lets his children decide whether or not to remember him.
That is not what I am getting out. What I believe is that the idea of worship is a human idea.