Originally posted by mega punk1235
who ever created god if he created us
God was created when the first phospholipid bilayer membranes formed along with primitive RNA and DNA genetic molecules. The membranes adsorbed proteins and the hereditary DNA/RNA material. From these organic molecules, the first primitive prokaryote (simple single cell organism lacking a nucleus) arose.
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is not what I am getting out. What I believe is that the idea of worship is a human idea.
You're mistaking the people of our culture for humanity again. (This is the same point I was going to make earlier. The thread closed.)
It is a quirk of our particular culture that the humans within it have something wrong with them and that they are humanity. (We are not humanity. We are one culture among the countless different versions throughout humanity's 3 million + year history.) The idea that something is wrong with humans gives rise to the salvationist religions: both polytheistic and monotheistic. Buddhism is borderline but it qualifies as salvationist because it postulates a better version of people that can only be attained by following its rituals. (I think. My knowledge of Buddhism is weak. Is the only way to reduce attachment through Buddhist doctrine?)
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
You're mistaking the people of our culture for humanity again. (This is the same point I was going to make earlier. The thread closed.)It is a quirk of our particular culture that the humans within it have something wrong with them and that they are humanity. (We are not humanity. We are one culture among the countless different versions throughout humanity's 3 million + year history.) The idea that something is wrong with humans gives rise to the salvationist religions: both polytheistic and monotheistic. Buddhism is borderline but it qualifies as salvationist because it postulates a better version of people that can only be attained by following its rituals. (I think. My knowledge of Buddhism is weak. Is the only way to reduce attachment through Buddhist doctrine?)
I got you the first time. Sometimes you have to bring people along, and not jump too far ahead.
Originally posted by Tonks
I still dont say that God needs. Because if he needed then everyone would worship him. There are people who do not believe in God. If God NEEDED then he would have it.
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
God has never shown to be able to do anything what so ever. Which is why I say he's not real. Can you point out one single instance of anything happening that was a direct result of God? Also stating that he made us or the universe or anything like that is def. not proof of anything. There's no way to prove how any of it started. I'm looking for some proof that God actually exist. If God does exist then why is there absolutely zero proof of it? It's like believing that the Easter Bunny is real despite the fact there is no evidence that he is (although there is more evidence that the easter bunny is real than there is of God). Believing in God is just an incomprehensible idea to me. How can a person believe in something when there is absolutely no evidence that it exist? If I told you I saw a Unicorn and that it told me a magical story, then I wrote that story in a book would that make it true? If I had no proof other than me saying it happened why on earth would anyone think that it was true. Religion is a mass delusion in my opinion. And back to the original question, as I stated man created God. There was no concept of God before man developed it and reinvented it thousands of times over.
That is why people have faith. Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. People have the faith that God is there. Yeah I see how you wont believe off of other peoples experiences. But that is where Faith comes in.
Originally posted by Tonks
That is why people have faith. Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. People have the faith that God is there. Yeah I see how you wont believe off of other peoples experiences. But that is where Faith comes in.
Originally posted by Tonks
Yeah I am sure that I wouldnt believe you. And I'm not here to convince you that there is a God. It is what people believe, and the people that believe it have their own experiences to go off of. To each man his own.
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Your the type of religious person i like 🙂 you don't try to force your beliefs on anyone or even make them think it's true. You just state your opinion.
Why thankyou LDHZ 😄
The human mind did. Human imagination did
I see where you are comin' from. I believe that He was a man from another world, or Earth that attained his salvation and created his Earth.