who created god

One of the central themes here is that many people think they're indispensable to the universe. Thus, they have to "live on" after death.
Faulty logic there. It's interesting to note how many Christians and others oftentimes label a certain culture as being "superstitious," when in fact that's exactly the definition of their own beliefs. Christian, Islamic and other beliefs are as credible (or incredible) as anything the ancient Greeks, Roman or Norse conjured up. What's the difference?

Originally posted by Ajax66
One of the central themes here is that many people think they're indispensable to the universe. ...

do you mean that something outside the universe (or maybe inside) controlling it (is indispensable)....? or the people (are indispensable)....? (sry i dont get that sentence....)

Originally posted by Ajax66

... Thus, they have to "live on" after death.
Faulty logic there. It's interesting to note how many Christians and others oftentimes label a certain culture as being "superstitious," when in fact that's exactly the definition of their own beliefs. Christian, Islamic and other beliefs are as credible (or incredible) as anything the ancient Greeks, Roman or Norse conjured up. What's the difference?

there is simply no difference... but thats just the way people see themselves as normal!? if someone thinks it aint normal to wear red clothes he'll probably call a person wearing them not normal.... i think thats the same with beliefs... if someone believes in something you think its not normal, you say he is "superstitious"....
well.... who ever said that christian islamic or other beliefs are the right? is there a at last right belief or not??? who knows....
so i think theres no real difference, just in the characteristics/detaills of the belief....
its just that the christian belief had been enforced by the church in the middle ages.... what if noone had founded the christian church? i got no idea which religion we all would have....

i hope you can take advantage of my post 😉

I mean that many individuals seem to think that they are indispensable, so important (at least in their minds) that they have to "live on" after death. There's no evidence of an afterlife -- it's all taken on faith.

You ever see the movie "Contact" (1997)? It's based on the novel by the late Carl Sagan. The Earth is supposedly contacted by an alien civilization from a nearby star system, who then give the Earthlings a set of blueprints in which to construct a spaceship. When deciding who should be the lone astronaut, the U.S. government makes their decision based on the candidates' religious beliefs. One fellow on the screening panel says they want to teach the aliens all about "our God." I guess the man thinks that the aliens are supposed to take our beliefs on pure faith, without any evidence. Typical evangelical thinking...

... didnt see that movie...
well youre right 😉
got nothing else to say 😉

Anyway I can't believe in a God as a person if at all I can accept a thing like good that startedd the Big Bang but that is all. I am too scienctific to believe in a christian god.

God is not a person though. Im not going to tell anybody what to believe but I seriously question how some people can be so dismissive.

If you belive in scientific principles, then you should believe that you can not get something out of nothing. If you believe that you CAN get something out of nothing, then why wouldnt you believe that there was an omipotent, omiscent and omnipresent God?

If you believe that you can not get something out of nothing then nothing would ever have existed. Space itself would never exist as it is quite clearly something.

I do believe in God but I am however not that trusting in the religion(s) that people have created.

nice post @ clickclick
couldnt have said it better! 😉

If you belive in scientific principles, then you should believe that you can not get something out of nothing. If you believe that you CAN get something out of nothing, then why wouldnt you believe that there was an omipotent, omiscent and omnipresent God?

why the hell should they believe in a god just because they believing in getting something out of nothing.

In believing you could get something of nothing, they would be going against "scientific law/logic" and operating on the basis of faith. Complete faith as there is absolutely no evidence of such a thing being possible (getting something out of nothing).

So why be so dismissive of religion when you are willing to do such a thing?

who created god?
y, the PPL of course! I think he was "created" by some prehistorical smarta$$es just to organize the masses.
Just imagine a world with no religion.
I mean, these days there lots of atheists, but in the 15th century religion was the law.

So why be so dismissive of religion when you are willing to do such a thing?

Originally posted by finti
cause it make more sense than religion

you missed following:

Originally posted by clickclick
If you belive in scientific principles, then you should believe that you can not get something out of nothing.

there cant be anything.... physics says: "you only can transform energy, you cant create or destroy it!"

so.... if there was never was anything.... where does the universe come from.... if there was something... a mass of protons, electrons and neutrons, it would have been in a stable state.... so there would never had been a big bang. if you believe the big bang may have come out of nothing or some amount of quanta.... then its just as realistic as the bible! isnt it? does it really make more sense?

well
religion = your explanation of the origin of the universe, the way youre supposed to live, and the end of the universe
so everybody has got a religion.....

edit: hmm... noone ever said they SHOULD believe in god, its only been said that its as realistic as any of the competitive theorys of the begin and the end of the universe....

Originally posted by mega punk1235
who created god

Me....

Me....

you missed following:

If you belive in scientific principles, then you should believe that you can not get something out of nothing

so creating everything from nothing makes more sense than something that has always existed?

could you explain why you feel that way? Im curious to find out.

Originally posted by DuronKiller
you missed following:

there cant be anything.... physics says: "you only can transform energy, you cant create or destroy it!"

Actually, you CAN create energy from nothing, as long as it only exists for a small period of time

Actually, you CAN create energy from nothing, as long as it only exists for a small period of time

Based on what? According to what? Since when?

When has there ever been evidence of this?

Its a fundemental concequence of modern physics.

You can create something out of nothing as long as the energy created times by the time it exists for is not greater than a certain constant.
I cant remember the precise numerical value for it, but it's very small

so creating everything from nothing makes more sense than something that has always existed

So what if the universe always been there why aint that as possible as a god that always been there

Actually, you CAN create energy from nothing, as long as it only exists for a small period of time

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