Something I want to share with you folks. Outside of KMC I would be the last person to censor anyone much less tell someone that racist jokes are fouled. If people think I'm inmoral or distasteful.......well, I'm sorry thats just me.
And in the spirit of Bad humor here are some of my own. But please don't highlight if you're easily offended by bad jokes.
[edit note] Bad jokes removed.
Afro_Cheese> I don’t like censorship. But I don’t like it when people abuse freedom of speech, and we’re dealing with people who’ll be quick to take away MY freedom of speech.
Like i wrote above: Humour – GOOD humour – doesn’t need to belittle or suppress colour or gender. It’ll make ALL people laugh. It unites us. Racism – well, it divides us.
If someone CONSTANLY makes racist or sexists jokes I want my RIGHT to object. If a joke making fun of gays, blacks or women happens once i a while – who cares?
But think about the recipients. What are these jokes intended to DO? What is the point of them? No – not the laughing part – think about it.
Would you make a paedophile joke?
Why not?
I don't agree with anyone telling you that you can't object to these jokes either. I don't agree with racism, as in hatred for another race or homophobia as in hatred for homosexuals. But comedians like Chris Rock pointing out the flaws in his race and others isn't inciting hate, it's just a joke.
Good humor is in the eye of the beholder.. there is no "it can't be good humor if it talks about this and this.." because good humor is all an opinion. I may think South Park is funny while you think it's trash. I think the best thing to do if you don't like the jokes someone is getting is ignore it, because they are telling the jokes to get a reaction. Let's face it, controversy draws a crowd. If you choose not to ignore it and to speak out against it that's fine, just don't try to stop them from telling the jokes just because it offends you. I mean if you want to stop racist jokes.. where exactly do you draw the line for acceptable or unacceptable?
Originally posted by WindDancer
Totallly WRONG! To tell you to "you are overracting-be quite" is also CENSORSHIP. Speak your mind and let your thoughts be free. Along with your sense of humor. Only sensitive Conservative numbskulls like the MPAA want to censor whatever I find entertaining. A movie has racial jokes therefore it should be banned??? Hell no! That's BS!
Then I would like to ask you the question The Omega asked -
[list] - What are these jokes intended to DO? What is the point of them? No – not the laughing part – think about it.
- Would you make a paedophile joke?
Why not?[/list]
Waiting patiantly for an answer.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Then I would like to ask you the question The Omega asked -[list] - What are these jokes intended to DO? What is the point of them? No – not the laughing part – think about it.
Humor and nothing else. Again, anyone that is reasonable can tell the difference between a comedy and a drama.
*points to an early post*
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
- Would you make a paedophile joke?
Why not?[/list]
I wouldn't, but if someone does and is funny I'll laugh. If I don't find it funny I won't laugh. Just because I laugh I support Pedophiles? Come on! That's silly.
Originally posted by Afro Cheese
People do tell pedophile jokes.. especially with the MJ incident and the catholic priests.
Precisely! I laugh at the Michael Jackson jokes and I think he is innocent until proven guilty. And like I said earlier outside the boards I don't censor people for their style of humor.
Originally posted by WindDancer
Humor and nothing else. Again, anyone that is reasonable can tell the difference between a comedy and a drama.*points to an early post*
Good humour, clever humour, does not need to use people of other color, gender or creed in order to make something funny.
This has nothing to do with drama or comedy - those jokes are doing exactly what racism is doing - it is underlining the difference between us! Its underlining the fact that we are different because we dont look the same, that we are different because we have different religion or nationality - its underlining all those! And its promoting racism.
Originally posted by WindDancer
I wouldn't, but if someone does and is funny I'll laugh. If I don't find it funny I won't laugh. Just because I laugh I support Pedophiles? Come on! That's silly.
Oh there are peadophile jokes on the accounts of the peadophile, but would you ever hear one on the accounts of the victim? Why not?
Oh there are peadophile jokes on the accounts of the peadophile, but would you ever hear one on the accounts of the victim? Why not?
Only sensitive Conservative numbskulls like the MPAA want to censor whatever I find entertaining.
Personally, I have no problem with racial or ethnic jokes. "You only say that because you're white!" Hmm...whenever I have seen black people performing standup comedy, on whom they have preyed? The perceived uptightness of Caucasians. Ever see the movie Undercover Brother? Hilarious movie. Lots of white jokes. I enjoyed it a lot.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Good humour, clever humour, does not need to use people of other color, gender or creed in order to make something funny.
So by that logic Chris Rock and any other comedians using jokes base on race aren't funny. Well, too bad I find them funny and will continue to laugh.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
This has nothing to do with drama or comedy - those jokes are doing exactly what racism is doing - it is underlining the difference between us! Its underlining the fact that we are different because we look the same, that we are different because we have different religion or nationality - its underlining all those! And its promoting racism.
No lil, people that get offended are making them look racist. And I see that certain people DO possess a conservative side to themselves. That's why censorship will never go away. People are just too delicate and touchy.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually you are supporting that kind of behaviour. By laughing you are approving it - so yeah.
I heard this one waaaaay too many times. This reminds me of the people that say that Violent video games creates violence in children. Incredible the world we're living in.
The basic point is that it's all about intent. Political correctness has overrun this country. I think that's a big part of the back lash that has been observed in the last election. I've told black jokes to black people before. Why did it go over well? Because they knew me.
In other situations, such jokes would not go over as well.
Political correctness is a plauge. There has to be an understanding. Why is there not? Because not everyone is smart enough to realize that.
I heard this one waaaaay too many times. This reminds me of the people that say that Violent video games creates violence in children.
Making fun of the victim - why isnt that funny? People posted jokes making fun of millions of Jews being killed in WWII - and people found it funny, did they not?
Why do people laugh at jokes about the Jews dying? I think it's the shock factor. How often do you expect to hear someone say, "What's the difference between a Jew and a pizza?" and then give the answer. (By the way, that IS a horrible joke, which is why I won't give the punchline.) I mean, when jokes are just for fun, it's OK, I can take a few, but when they are used for malice--we were discussing the above joke being told to a Jewish woman whose parents were survivors of the concentration camps--that's bad.
Racial jokes don't bother me. They never have and never will. Maybe black/Mexican/Asian people feel differently, but you have no idea how often I've heard:
"Hey, how do you keep a Dutch boy busy?"
"Gee, I don't know."
"Tell him there's a penny in the corner of a round room!"
I'm not boo-hooing over that.
Political correctness is a plauge. There has to be an understanding. Why is there not? Because not everyone is smart enough to realize that.