Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's hard not to do well when all it's doing is being a FPS, really. It's not hard to be mediocre, and sometimes that is worse than being shit.Coldplay are a safe band for most people. I'm sure you see my point now.
-AC
Except you and I both know that a whole ot other games that are "Just being FPS's" are also a lot worse. Halo is the creme of the crop when it comes to genaric FPS's.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I THINK he means kicking someone off a vehicle.Yes. That is considered a major, revolutionary gaming change in the eyes of Halo fans. "OH MY GOD I JUST KICKED HIM OFF THE BIKE!". It's like Homer seeing a blue car.
Well of course you'll agree, you're a biased Halo fanboy who walks around claiming that the story is factually better than Gears of War, so you really have no right to be saying what statements are great and what aren't.
Board vehicles? You mean FEATURE vehicles? Is that what you mean? Just so I can be clear when I shamelessly counter you. It wasn't the first game to feature vehicles, nor game to feature boarding of vehicles.
Gravity Lifts were in 2, also the first in a few places, bubble shields do not change the gameplay at all, mines? Wow, Goldeneye had many kinds of mines. Star Wars: Dark Forces had many kinds of mines for crying out loud. They're not changing gameplay by doing that.
Not that I care because as shin_gear said, if it's fun, so what? Even though I think games should be less acceptably generic, if you enjoy it, then go for it. My point was that people shouldn't be making false claims for Halo.
-AC
Alright first of all, I thought those were awesome statements because if you honestly think that Gears of War has a better story then Halo then it flat out proves that you have to be right. Don't give me all of that Halo fanboy shit because I'm sick of it. If you actually can't admit that Halo's story is better then Gears of war and give the game that much credit then maybe I'll just call you a gears of war fanboy. So I was very happy that lana said that. Backfire's statement was also awesome because I remember a few years back when I first joined he was the first person I ever got into an argument with... which happened to also be about Halo. So for him saying that it was a solid shooter was pretty cool.
Anyway I give you a new innovative idea that Halo 2 did and you shove it in my face. Prove to me what game had this idea before... and yes it was a cool change. And about halo 3... did I ever say that was innovative?? No, I said that it was DIFFERENT for a Halo game. You or some other people on this thread said that if Halo didn't change its gameplay then its ratings will drop. So there ya go it still has the same Halo feel but with a twist big enough to change it considerably yet keep it familiar to the fans.
I've seen Halo's story before. One highly advanced race, the regular Humans, and the one primitive race of Aliens that just want to kill everything. And eventually the hightech race and Humans form a small, momentary truce to deal with the primitive race that is trying to kill everyone. Starcraft and AVP ftw!
oh yeah.. and Halo.
Originally posted by Shin_Blax
I've seen Halo's story before. One highly advanced race, the regular Humans, and the one primitive race of Aliens that just want to kill everything. And eventually the hightech race and Humans form a small, momentary truce to deal with the primitive race that is trying to kill everyone. Starcraft and AVP ftw!oh yeah.. and Halo.
You give me any game and I can make it sound as retarded and useless as what you just described. No offense but you left out major details that affect the story. And going with what you say I can say that the story of Gears of War is:
Strange alien/creatures whipping out the human race and the humans fight back. Nearly every game...ever.
You see, Gears of War really didn't have much of a story. In fact no one can tell me what the Locust are.
Originally posted by Spartan005
Alright first of all, I thought those were awesome statements because if you honestly think that Gears of War has a better story then Halo then it flat out proves that you have to be right. Don't give me all of that Halo fanboy shit because I'm sick of it. If you actually can't admit that Halo's story is better then Gears of war and give the game that much credit then maybe I'll just call you a gears of war fanboy. So I was very happy that lana said that. Backfire's statement was also awesome because I remember a few years back when I first joined he was the first person I ever got into an argument with... which happened to also be about Halo. So for him saying that it was a solid shooter was pretty cool.
Everyone who says anything remotely positive about Halo, to you, is making an "awesome statement" and anybody who doesn't agree that Halo's story is factually better, which is isn't, is being retarded. That just proves how much of a rabid fanboy you are.
You are a disgustingly rabid fanboy. It's your OPINION that Halo has a better story than Gears, it's not a fact, it's opinion. It's as much an opinion as saying white chocolate tastes better than dark chocolate.
I'm not actually saying Gears has a better story, at all, they're both generic. I'm saying I think Gears' story matched the GAME better than Halo's does. You're calling me a Gears fanboy because I'm saying it's your opinion that Halo's story is better, not that Gears' is? How stupid is that? You don't understand the difference between fact and opinion.
You just get happy whenever anyone doesn't say anything bad about Halo because you're in love with Master Chief.
Originally posted by Spartan005
Anyway I give you a new innovative idea that Halo 2 did and you shove it in my face. Prove to me what game had this idea before... and yes it was a cool change.
What, vehicles? You're asking me what game had vehicles?
Red Faction had vehicles, and more importantly, Red Faction's vehicles actually did alter the gameplay. With the miner you could drill passages through pretty much any wall, get around locked doors, under enemy barricades. With the submarine you could infiltrate water bases without necessarily taking the land approach, and even then you could use your missiles to create underwater tunnels.
Halo? Drive the warthog about a bit.
Originally posted by Spartan005
And about halo 3... did I ever say that was innovative?? No, I said that it was DIFFERENT for a Halo game. You or some other people on this thread said that if Halo didn't change its gameplay then its ratings will drop. So there ya go it still has the same Halo feel but with a twist big enough to change it considerably yet keep it familiar to the fans.
I never said that it will drop ratings, Halo 3 is going to be drooled over by fanboys and girls everywhere.
It hasn't changed considerably at all. Unless the finished product is 100% different to the beta, it's not different. The beta might as well have been Halo one or two.
Halo 2's innovation was "You can hold dual pistols and weapons.". So what? Done before.
You have nothing to back you up, and the fact that you claim fact to the superiority of Halo's story, when it's NOTHING but your opinion, proves you're a fanboy, and an idiot. I don't think Gears' story is "better", they're both pretty generic, as I've said many times. I think it suits the game more than Halo's one does, though.
Neither are factually better or worse, it's all opinion, sorry if that makes you cry.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Everyone who says anything remotely positive about Halo, to you, is making an "awesome statement" and anybody who doesn't agree that Halo's story is factually better, which is isn't, is being retarded. That just proves how much of a rabid fanboy you are.You are a disgustingly rabid fanboy. It's your OPINION that Halo has a better story than Gears, it's not a fact, it's opinion. It's as much an opinion as saying white chocolate tastes better than dark chocolate.
I'm not actually saying Gears has a better story, at all, they're both generic. I'm saying I think Gears' story matched the GAME better than Halo's does. You're calling me a Gears fanboy because I'm saying it's your opinion that Halo's story is better, not that Gears' is? How stupid is that? You don't understand the difference between fact and opinion.
You just get happy whenever anyone doesn't say anything bad about Halo because you're in love with Master Chief.
What, vehicles? You're asking me what game had vehicles?
Red Faction had vehicles, and more importantly, Red Faction's vehicles actually did alter the gameplay. With the miner you could drill passages through pretty much any wall, get around locked doors, under enemy barricades. With the submarine you could infiltrate water bases without necessarily taking the land approach, and even then you could use your missiles to create underwater tunnels.
Halo? Drive the warthog about a bit.
I never said that it will drop ratings, Halo 3 is going to be drooled over by fanboys and girls everywhere.
It hasn't changed considerably at all. Unless the finished product is 100% different to the beta, it's not different. The beta might as well have been Halo one or two.
Halo 2's innovation was "You can hold dual pistols and weapons.". So what? Done before.
You have nothing to back you up, and the fact that you claim fact to the superiority of Halo's story, when it's NOTHING but your opinion, proves you're a fanboy, and an idiot. I don't think Gears' story is "better", they're both pretty generic, as I've said many times. I think it suits the game more than Halo's one does, though.
Neither are factually better or worse, it's all opinion, sorry if that makes you cry.
-AC
"Everyone who says anything remotely positive about Halo, to you, is making an "awesome statement" and anybody who doesn't agree that Halo's story is factually better, which is isn't, is being retarded. That just proves how much of a rabid fanboy you are."
Thats funny because last time I checked, you were the one that are retartid
Anyway my mistake... I thought you said that Gears had a better story... thank god. Yes I understand the difference between fact and opinion but (if that was the case) then your opinion would be a stupid one. When I mentioned that I gave you an innovative feature I meant BOARDING vehicles as in kicking an elite or brute off and taking it over. Of course other games before it had vehicles... I'm actually not that retarded. And by the way for everyone who says that Halo 2 gameplay hasn't changed, it actually did a lot by adding dual weilding weapons like AC just said. Yes I know its not innovation but its new to Halo so the games aren't repetitive. And Yes Halo 3 has been changed like I just said, it features the deploy equipment button which will deploy the bubble shield, grav lift, mine or power drainer. As for innovation, the forge option has never been done before. Of course on some games you were able to edit maps or make new ones but this is all in game, moving objects around and supporting your team. Sounds pretty innovative to me.
Oh and one last thing... dark chocolate kicks white chocolates ass.
Originally posted by Spartan005
Thats funny because last time I checked, you were the one that are retartid
You mean "Retarded".
Originally posted by Spartan005
Anyway my mistake... I thought you said that Gears had a better story... thank god. Yes I understand the difference between fact and opinion but (if that was the case) then your opinion would be a stupid one.
That's your opinion. Do you see how it works? I think all your opinions on Halo are baseless and stupid, but there we go. It's not a fact that Halo has a better story, it's your opinion. It's not a fact that Gears has a better story, but someone has the right to think so. I don't care for either, I just think Gears' story better suits the game.
Halo's story is not better by fact, which you said it was. If you believe this, you do not understand the difference between fact and opinion.
Originally posted by Spartan005
When I mentioned that I gave you an innovative feature I meant BOARDING vehicles as in kicking an elite or brute off and taking it over. Of course other games before it had vehicles... I'm actually not that retarded.
That's proof of your fanboyism. Such a tiny and irrelevant change is being hailed as reason for your argument.
Originally posted by Spartan005
And by the way for everyone who says that Halo 2 gameplay hasn't changed, it actually did a lot by adding dual weilding weapons like AC just said. Yes I know its not innovation but its new to Halo so the games aren't repetitive.
It didn't make the game any different, in my opinion. It was still the same Halo, essentially.
Originally posted by Spartan005
And Yes Halo 3 has been changed like I just said, it features the deploy equipment button which will deploy the bubble shield, grav lift, mine or power drainer. As for innovation, the forge option has never been done before. Of course on some games you were able to edit maps or make new ones but this is all in game, moving objects around and supporting your team. Sounds pretty innovative to me.Oh and one last thing... dark chocolate kicks white chocolates ass.
You're picking such small elements as reason this game is an innovative game, and it's just not.
-AC
Originally posted by Shin_Blax
There's only one "t" in retarded.😐
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You mean "Retarded".That's your opinion. Do you see how it works? I think all your opinions on Halo are baseless and stupid, but there we go. It's not a fact that Halo has a better story, it's your opinion. It's not a fact that Gears has a better story, but someone has the right to think so. I don't care for either, I just think Gears' story better suits the game.
Halo's story is not better by fact, which you said it was. If you believe this, you do not understand the difference between fact and opinion.
That's proof of your fanboyism. Such a tiny and irrelevant change is being hailed as reason for your argument.
It didn't make the game any different, in my opinion. It was still the same Halo, essentially.
You're picking such small elements as reason this game is an innovative game, and it's just not.
-AC
I WAS MAKING FUN OF AC GOOD JOB
Anyway, fine it is my opinion that anyone with an opinion of Gears of War's story being better than Halo's is stupid. there ya go.
Those last 3 posts you made by the way in response to my comments undeniably prove that you just don't want to be wrong. You have just countered all of my arguments by saying that their such tiny changes that it doesn't matter. WEll GUESS WHAT? I gave you explanations on how Halo 2 was different and how Halo 3 is innovative. The forge idea is not just a tiny little element since multiplayer is probably Halo's best part for a lot of people. And you called me a fanboy for proving you wrong? It sucks that boarding vehicles was a small innovation but uh oh it was still INNOVATIVE.
It probably sucks to be wrong, doesn't it? Oh wait your response will probably be "but all of your posts just prove that your a fanboy!!" or maybe they prove that I'm just right. And now you're going to respond "Halo fanboys always just turn to making fun of people so they can defend their game and wack off to the master chief" Which either way will be completely irrelevant to this discussion... which by the way has just ended.
Originally posted by Spartan005
Those last 3 posts you made by the way in response to my comments undeniably prove that you just don't want to be wrong. You have just countered all of my arguments by saying that their such tiny changes that it doesn't matter. WEll GUESS WHAT? I gave you explanations on how Halo 2 was different and how Halo 3 is innovative. The forge idea is not just a tiny little element since multiplayer is probably Halo's best part for a lot of people. And you called me a fanboy for proving you wrong? It sucks that boarding vehicles was a small innovation but uh oh it was still INNOVATIVE.
You haven't proven me wrong, though. I've been wrong before and admitted it, but I fail to see why I should admit I'm wrong to please you, when you're not actually right, Spartan.
Kicking someone off a bike or whatever doesn't count as making it an innovative FPS, it doesn't. It doesn't alter the gameplay at all. You get on, and it's still Halo, the same as it was when you were driving a vehicle in one, no different.
Forge is no more innovative than this ridiculous active replay thing that has been installed. Any new addition to the game, regardless of it not being innovative, is viewed as innovative by the fanboys. Like double guns, that's not innovative, but you're freaking out over it because Halo didn't have it at first.
Originally posted by Spartan005
It probably sucks to be wrong, doesn't it? Oh wait your response will probably be "but all of your posts just prove that your a fanboy!!" or maybe they prove that I'm just right. And now you're going to respond "Halo fanboys always just turn to making fun of people so they can defend their game and wack off to the master chief" Which either way will be completely irrelevant to this discussion... which by the way has just ended.
I'm not wrong, Spartan. If you've convinced yourself of that so you don't have to continue getting your biased and incorrect debate beaten back, then whatever makes you happy, but it doesn't alter the fact that you are wrong.
If you had proven me incorrect, I'd admit such. You are the one who just keeps telling me that, whereas my claims of you being a fanboy are quite blatantly based in fact. "Halo is better, storywise, fact.", no it's not, yet you believed that, and called me retarded for believing otherwise.
You unquestionably suck up to anybody who even REMOTELY praises Halo. You just hate anything negative being said about the game. So, if you believe I'm calling you a fanboy cos your posts are "right", you're wrong again.
"LOOK AT THIS LINK! HALO HAS BETTER GRAPHICS THAN GEARS DOES!", yeah, sure. Stevie Wonder could tell Gears has better graphics.
-AC