the two prophets are said to be two mystical beings who come down during the time of the antichrist and preach God's word in front of the wailing wall, the are mystical because they cannot be harmed untill the time God has set forth, and when they speak it can be heard in all languages, in the end they will bring 10000 jews to belive that Christ is the messiah who will in turn go out and convert more to his ways. This is a very shabby summary with all the main parts in tact. Im telling you if you have the time read the book series left behind, even for non- belivers it is a good read
If people's choices decide the future, then the future cannot exist until those decisions have been made.Either the future already exists and is therefore fixed, or our decisions determine the future and the future does not yet exist. You cannot have it both ways.
The future doesnt exist to us, we are in the present. However God is already in the future, the future that was made by peoples own choices. He is also in the present.
Think about if you had a time machine and you went back in time to yesterday. To your yesterday self, the future would not exist because it would still be the present. To yourself, the future to your yesterday self is actually the present for you. And so on and so on. You would know all the decisions your yesterday self will make but none of them would have been forced upon you. Its not fixed by something, it is what you chose and you know it. Well God doesnt need a time machine and he exists in the past, present and future simultaneously. He is everywhere and always.
Im only having it one way, you just arent getting what im saying. Maybe I can offer a few different examples if you still dont get it but if it becomes futile and you just dont understand I will just drop it and we can move on.
no really tho' the books are littered with what some would call cheesey religous references, but once you look past that it is a great great read, its been on the NY times top 20 for like 10 yrs.....different books of course, but id deff try and read the first, trust me once your done with that b4 you know it youll be in the middle of book 12
oh and Bardock if youve heard of the Rapture then you know, it'll be alot easier to start truly beliving now and not waiting to deal with the 7 yrs of tribulation (the time when the four horseman come down and unleash hell, along with the 7 bowls? and 7 something elses that god will release on earth)
very true, but dont worry all you have to do is keep your eyes open, there are many things happening in our lives that we dont notice, im only asking you to keep you mind and heart open and one day you will see first hand that God is working in our lives. You just gotta be watching for it, alot of people are saved everyday and dont realize it, like maybe you were leaving for work and couldnt find your keys that YOU KNEW were on the counter, it takes you 10 min to find them and now your late, but on the way to work you see a bad accident just in front of you.....hmmmm what woulda happened if you hadn't lost your keys. Not saying its always that apparent but if you watch for him he's there
all of our lives finti, he wont deny you just b/c you dont belive, he knows none of us are perfect, and if you can honestly (and dont say no just b/c of your beliefs), tell me that there has never been a time where something intervened in your life to change an event of even a thought, well then your just not thinking hard enough
ooops i think i just steppend on the wrong toes, i just noticed you had antichrist above your name finti. In which case I'm still talking to you b/c even tho' you acknowledge that whom is most unholy God will still accept you with open arms should you come to him. The same way Your mom/dad would no matter what you do. Anyone here ever heard the Parable of the Prodigal Son
Catholic and Protestant (Lutheran)
And yes I know the Parable opf the Prodigial Son.
Thats what I always thought, that God would accept you whatever xcause he is god, if you come to him, whenever.
But people here are talking about only through Jesus Christ and stuff and only before death so oh well I dunno.
Norway has a 87% Luteran protestant, the number lies since we are automatically a member of that church as long as your parents aint of a different denomination or religion. They had a survey and the real number was out of the 87% people who looked at themselves as chrisitans was around 30%, the rest didnt care or are still pissed about all the hassle it is to get out of that membership list..it takes years