Originally posted by Alliance
So you're polytheistic instead of henotheistic?
No, it would be Henotheistic, at least as far as my understanding of the term.
Henotheism - devotion to a single "God" while accepting the existence of other gods.
Mormons only worship one God, God the Father. Christ is advocate of man to God. We do not believe in devotion to another God, or the possibility of such.
It is a fine line though, considering we believe Christ to be a God. But, I don't believe Christ requested worship, he promoted the worship of God in his name.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Did you?
Feh. Last time i answered one of your so called proofs for God's existence, specifically the Moral argument, you tried to weasel your way out by claiming "you gravitate towards shorter, more succint posts."
I've already spammed this link several times, proof of God's existence and their refutations by Louis Cable: http://home.inu.net/skeptic/god.html
I just leave it to you to find the Moral, Teleological and Cosmological refutations on the list.
Originally posted by Alliance
But if you believe in multiple gods...thats polytheistic.Henotheism is more like the one god can appear in muliple forms...
That would be the same as Trinitarian doctrine, which is considered monotheistic.
We wouldn't be considered polytheistic, because that would assume worship of more than one. We don't believe that such is possible.
Originally posted by Alliance
Well, you just said that you have three seperate gods.
Yes, in a way you could say polytheistic, but we don't believe that you worship Christ or the Holy Spirit, only God the Father through Christ as advocate. Polytheism allows one to worship more than one, we do not do that, so we dislike that term because it is inaccurate. Perhaps there needs to be a new term for us...lol.
Originally posted by Templares
Feh. Last time i answered one of your so called proofs for God's existence, specifically the Moral argument, you tried to weasel your way out by claiming "you gravitate towards shorter, more succint posts."I've already spammed this link several times, proof of God's existence and their refutations by Louis Cable: http://home.inu.net/skeptic/god.html
I just leave it to you to find the Moral, Teleological and Cosmological refutations on the list.
I have never once tried to weasel my way out of anything on this forum. No need to. At the time I did not feel like reading mashattav-type posts (that man ain't human the way he writes). But lately I have started to write very verbose posts myself. Nevertheless, God lives (is real and exists) despite your "so-called refutations." Watch, one day you will stand before God and give an account for every single sin that you have ever committed. Actually believers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ (Jesus is our Judge because our sins are paid for by His atoning sacrifice and Blood). But unbeliever's sins are still hanging over their heads as it were. Those sins just keep on accumulating and building up. One day each and every person who does not know Jesus will face the wrath of God, the righteous Judge, and they will give account for their cumulative sins. Then the books
(records of every sin you have committed or thought will be opened). Then the Lamb's Book of Life will be opened. If your name is written therein then all of your sins will not held against you. But if not, then you will suffer for eternity in the lake of fire for each and every sin that you committed. I will stand at the Judgment seat of Jesus Christ but not for my sins (remember my sins have already preceded me into judgment and been washed in Jesus' shed Blood. Jesus Christ already suffered for my sins. My sins have already been judged and dealt with. Now I will stand before Jesus to receive or not receive rewards. I believe that I have many rewards coming to me. But I do not gloat about them. I just endeavor to stay humble and keep doing the Lord's will in the meantime until I stand before Him. I will be in Heaven thinking about this moment in time when we had this conversation. I wish there was a way I could wager everything that I own to prove to you how much I believe that God is real. But you will just have to wait until you die (and the cold part is you don't know when that will be. It could happen at any moment).
The Bible states,
And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, (Hebrews 9:27).
Anyhoo, just know that I told you (and the rest of you reading this post).
Originally posted by mattrab
Yep, into the lake of fire for the second death with Hades, isn't that right?!
Hades does not mena hell....so, If you'd like to use Greek mythological references (which, by the way, how is their mythology less any less correct than yours?) perhaps you would be more apt to associate Hell with Tartarus.
Originally posted by debbiejo
But according to many believers [B]they have been thrown into hell already, so now we have the White Throne Judgment where they are taken out and rejudged and thrown back into hell? [/B]
Correct. Hell is a "prison" or holding place for people that don't want anything to do with God. Folks if you ignore God's love and mercy in this life and then die in your unforgiven state, there is no other place for you to go. There is no such animal as purgatory. You either go into God's loving presence (Heaven) or into a place where God's wrath is administered (Hell). There is no in between.
Originally posted by debbiejo
In out in out in out in fire, just doesn't make since.......They won't be lookin so pretty at that nice White Throne Judgment......kinda charred. I think the others will know, don't you, where they just came from. What about the ones in White, will some of them get change in Judgment?
Debbiejoe with all due respect there are a LOT of things that don't make since to you, me, and the rest of the world and yet those things are still true. For example, I don't understand how a person could believe in evolution and yet folk still do it.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Correct. Hell is a "prison" or holding place for people that don't want anything to do with God. Folks if you ignore God's love and mercy in this life and then die in your unforgiven state, there is no other place for you to go. There is no such animal as purgatory. You either go into God's loving presence (Heaven) or into a place where God's wrath is administered (Hell). There is no in between.
This mythology that you believe is used as a scare tactic.
Originally posted by Regret
Mormons only worship one God, God the Father. Christ is advocate of man to God. We do not believe in devotion to another God, or the possibility of such.It is a fine line though, considering we believe Christ to be a God. But, I don't believe Christ requested worship, he promoted the worship of God in his name.
* how so? if you believe that Christ is a God, it is tantamount of saying that Christ should be worshipped... and yes, Christ promoted worship for the Father, but the Father also did it for CHrist...
"And when he again bringeth in the firstborn into the world he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."
Hebrews 1:6
* even the angels are commanded to worship Christ, moreso for us humans, right? and even the apostles and disciples are worshipping Christ... 😉
Originally posted by peejayd
* how so? if you believe that Christ is a God, it is tantamount of saying that Christ should be worshipped... and yes, Christ promoted worship for the Father, but the Father also did it for CHrist..."And when he again bringeth in the firstborn into the world he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."
Hebrews 1:6* even the angels are commanded to worship Christ, moreso for us humans, right? and even the apostles and disciples are worshipping Christ... 😉
Since it seems you and I agree to the makeup of Christ and God, what is your stance as to belief. Does it make you monotheistic, henotheistic or polytheistic? I think our view as to the Godhead are similar enough we would fit under the same adjective.