God or No God?

Started by peejayd96 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I live by a simple rule: if a person is good, they should act like it.

* even the holiest of holy knows how to get angry... and i'm not even angry one bit at ms.debbiejo... i don't know what your reasons, motives or intentions but your posts seems so hypocritical... 😕

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I live by a simple rule: if a person is good, they should act like it.

Which I agree with. Simply saying one is good means little without something to back it up.

Originally posted by peejayd
* even the holiest of holy knows how to get angry... and i'm not even angry one bit at ms.debbiejo... i don't know what your reasons, motives or intentions but your posts seems so hypocritical... 😕

Really?

I've read your posts, no amount of insulting me is going to change my opinion. If you are a follower of Jesus, you should strive to be Jesus like, and pride will not get you there.

* who insults who? what's your problem, man? no ones quarreling you... plus, you're the one who's very judgmental... you called me a "mean person" a while back, now you claimed i insulted you? whoa! ... 😕

Originally posted by peejayd
* who insults who? what's your problem, man? no ones quarreling you... plus, you're the one who's very judgmental... you called me a "mean person" a while back, now you claimed i insulted you? whoa! ... 😕

Ya, I'm sensitive about being called a hypocrite. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Ya, I'm sensitive about being called a hypocrite. 😆

* okay, so let's lighten up a bit... 🙂

* to clarify things, i said, "because hypocrites are always onion-skinned?", i did NOT pertain that to you personally and i ended it with a question mark... 😛

* next, i said, "your posts seems so hypocritical", it's your posts, NOT you personally... and i said, it SEEMS hypocritical... so there... i hope you got my point, because i don't have any intent of insulting other people... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* okay, so let's lighten up a bit... 🙂

* to clarify things, i said, "because hypocrites are always onion-skinned?", i did NOT pertain that to you personally and i ended it with a question mark... 😛

* next, i said, "your posts seems so hypocritical", it's your posts, NOT you personally... and i said, it SEEMS hypocritical... so there... i hope you got my point, because i don't have any intent of insulting other people... 😉

Did you notice the " 😆 " after what I said? I don't care what you think of me. You can call me a hypocrite directly or indirectly; it does not bother me.

I think it is funny how people who claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit can be so mean to others. It dose not shed a good light on their religion. This is a general statement, and it is not directed only to you.

* if you don't care what others think of you, why bother to care what others think of "others"? 😕

Originally posted by peejayd
* if you don't care what others think of you, why bother to care what others think of "others"? 😕

First: The point I was trying to communicate to you has been lost in the emotion of the moment. You didn't do anything bad; you are just human. Sorry if I said anything that hurt you.

I know who I am. I know my weaknesses and my strengths. No one else knows the real me. So if someone things poorly of me and I feel that it is unjust, then I don't give that person' opinion a second thought.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
First: The point I was trying to communicate to you has been lost in the emotion of the moment. You didn't do anything bad; you are just human. Sorry if I said anything that hurt you.

I know who I am. I know my weaknesses and my strengths. No one else knows the real me. So if someone things poorly of me and I feel that it is unjust, then I don't give that person' opinion a second thought.

Do you give my opinions second thoughts?

The Jesus I believe in teaches deeper meanings just like Buddha and other great teachers, not the Mithra, Dionysus Jesus of the Bible. The main point is to love.

Originally posted by peejayd
* albeit, let us take for consideration to what the Bible says if a servant of God is worshipped...

"And when it came to pass that Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
But Peter raised him up, saying, Stand up
; I myself also am a man."
The Acts 10:25-26

* Saint Peter rejected worship...

"And when the multitude saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voice, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.
And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercury, because he was the chief speaker.
And the priest of Jupiter whose temple was before the city, [I]brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the multitudes
.
But when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of it, they rent their garments, and sprang forth among the multitude, crying out
and saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you
, and bring you good tidings, that ye should turn from these vain things unto a living God, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and all that in them is:"
The Acts 14:11-15[/I]

* Saint Barnabas and Saint Paul also rejected worship...

"And I John am he that heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel that showed me these things.
And he saith unto me, See thou do it not: I am a fellow-servant with thee and with thy brethren the prophets, and with them that keep the words of this book: worship God."
Revelation 22:8-9

* even an angel of God rejected worship... but the angel gives a recommendation as to whom we should worship... we should worship God...

"Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."
Matthew 4:10

"And Jesus answered and said unto him, It is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."
Luke 4:8

* even Christ Himself said that the one should be worshipped is God... but is Christ also a God to be worshipped?

"Awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,"
Titus 2:13

"Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours in the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:"
II Peter 1:1

* according to Saint Paul and Saint Peter, Christ is a great God and Savior...

"And when he again bringeth in the firstborn into the world he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."
Hebrews 1:6

* the Father Himself told His angels to worship Christ... moreso for us, humans should worship Christ...

"For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in his own glory, and the glory of the Father, and of the holy angels."
Luke 9:26

* we must remember that Christ has His own glory, as the Father has His... so the worship should be for the Father AND Christ...

"Let not your heart be troubled: believe in God, believe also in me."
John 14:1

* it's like a "package-deal", my friend, worship the Father AND Christ...

"Who is the liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, even he that denieth the Father and the Son."
I John 2:22

* he who denies the Father AND Christ is called the anti-Christ... so what should we do?

"That all may honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father that sent him."
John 5:23

* we should honor Christ as we honor the Father... we should honor, worship and accept both the Father and Christ... 😉

I agree with this. Although I do think that while Christ is worshipped, it is for the glory of the Father.

Originally posted by debbiejo
The Jesus I believe in teaches deeper meanings just like Buddha and other great teachers, not the Mithra, Dionysus Jesus of the Bible. The main point is to love.

I believe you do not understand the Bible if you think the Jesus of the Bible does not teach that "the main point is to love."

Sounds kind of....like the 11th century.

Originally posted by Regret
I believe you do not understand the Bible if you think the Jesus of the Bible does not teach that "the main point is to love."
Yes I do know that, but Paul changed the message of Jesus and most churches are Pauline based, not Jesus based.........

Originally posted by lord xyz
Do you give my opinions second thoughts?

All the time. 😆 I read your posts and then I say WHAT? and read them again. 😆

Originally posted by Regret
I believe you do not understand the Bible if you think the Jesus of the Bible does not teach that "the main point is to love."

I think you need to Read the Bible more...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
All the time. 😆 I read your posts and then I say WHAT? and read them again. 😆
I don't blame you for reading them again. I talk a lot of shit I do. ✅

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't blame you for reading them again. I talk a lot of shit I do. ✅

Not really, you are just fine.

We all talk sh*t.