Wonder Woman vs. the Hulk

Originally posted by ctnn1
This question is a straw man - Who here claimed that a single thunderclap would "ko" her? I don't see that claim being made anywhere, nor is it necessary.

The thunderclap is used as a weapon to keep WW from standing back at a distance and throwing lighting and ranged attacks. If she's constantly having to defend against attacks that knock her off her feet, damage her hearing, and hurled landscape, then she is forced to stay on the move, or close the gap in order to get at Hulk.

Now we see plenty of examples of Hulk fighting in this manner. Knocking flying opponents and weaponry out of the sky, etc.

Yet I see so far every poster claiming WW would fight off in the distance, and just hurl lighting, and weapons, and fight at incredible speeds has ignored the numerous comments that we have example, after example, after example of her fighting fist to fist - Reverting to type with bricks.

Kind of like Thor eh? She wants to be the hands on warrior it seems.

Point being, if Hulk fights in his usual manner, WW is not going to be able to pick him apart from a distance. And no, Hulk is not precluded from using the thunderclap if it doesn't KO her. To the poster who commented "doesn't do sh@#! to heralds" I'm wondering where he gets this from?

Hulk has used his clap to knock Surfer, BB, IM, Herc, WM, and others out of the sky or off their feet. Exactly what it's supposed to do.

While they're busy falling, Hulk closes the gap and is pounding on his now stationary victim. When you have the ability to leap at hypersonic velocities, we're talking fractions of a second here to be on top of her.

Next, I'd like to point out something another poster mentioned above. Hulk recently tanked an Old Power punch of 100 trillion tons with no ill effects save it knocked him into another state. His reaction to this?

He stood up and knocked Skaar nearly twice the distance! (So Hulk can hit with the force of nearly 200 trillion tons on a whim)

Need an example of his speed? Well, Skaar entered low orbit after this punch, and traveled cross state, hundreds of miles. Hulk leaped after him and landed at nearly the same time Skaar did. Take a wild guess as to how fast he had to be moving there? Impressive durability feat, and leaping speed for Hulk.

Just thought an example was in order.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I never said a single thunderclap you just assumed thats what i meant. He said a thunderclap koed Rulk i asked for another example either way my post wasn't directed at you i asked him for an example 😬. You have to prove Hulk can hit with nearly 200 trillion tons on a whim lol. Physically Diana wouldn't match up her speed and gear are her saving grace lightning in his eyes lasso tie up ftw.

Well wwh helmed a being up instantly with one arm and toyed with him that had the strength of 100 trillion tons and again, he one handed him and skaar was unable to move that one arm with both of his arms. 200 trillion tons ain't s*** to current hulk and I can't see diana surviving a punch from someone that lifts a trillion tons.

^ your post makes no sense 😬

Hulk wins.

Prove it? Well, he did it in his most recent battle with Skaar. Go take a look. Skaar pounded Hulk with an on panel verified 100 trillion ton punch.

Hulk brushes it off, and returns the favor with a punch that knocks Skaar out of state, more than 400 miles away, and into LE orbit.

Since the issue gave the exact starting point, and ending point of each punch, we can see that Hulk easily knocked Skaar much further with his punch.

My "on a whim" statement was a reference to how quickly Hulk can go from having a conversation, to 100+ trillion tons of punching force.

You have to prove Hulk can hit with nearly 200 trillion tons on a whim lol. Physically Diana wouldn't match up her speed and gear are her saving grace lightning in his eyes lasso tie up ftw. [/B][/QUOTE]

It also shows how strong and tough Skaar is to be able to take a like that. Hiro is pretty tough as well. Just thought I'd add that little bit in there. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
Well wwh helmed a being up instantly with one arm and toyed with him that had the strength of 100 trillion tons and again, he one handed him and skaar was unable to move that one arm with both of his arms. 200 trillion tons ain't s*** to current hulk and I can't see diana surviving a punch from someone that lifts a trillion tons.

Except, she has. *She* can lift a trillion tons, and she's taken multiple hits from the future god-amped version of herself.

And Superman.

Originally posted by Q99
Except, she has. *She* can lift a trillion tons, and she's taken multiple hits from the future god-amped version of herself.

And Superman.

Scans of her easily lifting this much weight. Before you do this though I want you to realize that the Hulk can easily throw this amount of weight around. Her lifting it and it being easy for her to exceed it, are two different things entirely. Diana can not compete with the Hulk on these levels.

A trillion vs 150 - 200 trillion? Big difference. Imagine a fight between a 1 year old child, and an average adult male. A child who can press a few pounds, vs someone pressing 120 - 150 pounds or more.

Think that 1 year old would put up much of a fight? That's the level of difference in strength we're talking here comparatively speaking.

Of course, this assumes that we've seen WW's best showing and Hulks.

Originally posted by Q99
Except, she has. *She* can lift a trillion tons, and she's taken multiple hits from the future god-amped version of herself.

And Superman.

Originally posted by Stoic
Scans of her easily lifting this much weight. Before you do this though I want you to realize that the Hulk can easily throw this amount of weight around. Her lifting it and it being easy for her to exceed it, are two different things entirely. Diana can not compete with the Hulk on these levels.

Well, let's see, she's moved a good portion of the moon or Earth on multiple occasions.... that's 73.47 quintillion tons for the moon and about 6 sextillion tons for the Earth ... but it was only partial, she had help from two other people... she did strain, granted, but we're *probably* talking in the neighborhood of moving 2 sextillion tons. Maybe 1.5 if Superman was taking more than his fair share.

So that's like, what, 7 orders of magnitude more?

Yea, I don't think Diana will be competing on those 200 trillion ton levels.

(Here's her lifting an asteroid the size of a small city. Don't know how heavy it is, but she's pretty casual about it)

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It is kinda boring how often the whole "No, Diana really is in the strength league of other high heralds," has to be repeated. It's not exactly news and the people who ask about it aren't exactly newbies, you know?

She didn't actually move the Earth, even with help. They were trying to keep the Earth in orbit and they needed to be saved by GL, as they were failing.

well hulk certainly is making a come back on this forum.....i remember back when it was superman vs hulk and that guy who kept saying hulk could shoot gamma beams from his hands......what a long time it's been

Hulk's gotten in-comic upgrades in recent times.

Originally posted by Silent Master
She didn't actually move the Earth, even with help. They were trying to keep the Earth in orbit and they needed to be saved by GL, as they were failing.

Ok, then there's the moon feat. Which did work and still puts her at over 4 OoM more strength.

She moved a good portion? How much is "a good portion"? Since you cannot answer that, then how could you throw any number around at all?

Your comment is based on sheer speculation with no basis of comparison. You cannot state "there's 3 people there, so she moved 1/3." How evenly was the workload spread? How do you know Superman and GL weren't shouldering 95% of the burden?

See? No way of knowing other than speculation. Combined feats mean very little when trying to attribute specs to a single character.

But if we're talking planetary feats, Hulks managed a few of those himself. Not disputing she has titanic levels of strength, but it seems most agree here that Hulk surpasses her in that department by a fair margin.

Originally posted by Q99
Well, let's see, she's moved a good portion of the moon or Earth on multiple occasions.... that's 73.47 quintillion tons for the moon and about 6 sextillion tons for the Earth ... but it was only partial, she had help from two other people... she did strain, granted, but we're *probably* talking in the neighborhood of moving 2 sextillion tons. Maybe 1.5 if Superman was taking more than his fair share.

So that's like, what, 7 orders of magnitude more?

Yea, I don't think Diana will be competing on those 200 trillion ton levels.

(Here's her lifting an asteroid the size of a small city. Don't know how heavy it is, but she's pretty casual about it)

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It is kinda boring how often the whole "No, Diana really is in the strength league of other high heralds," has to be repeated. It's not exactly news and the people who ask about it aren't exactly newbies, you know?

Originally posted by Q99
Well, let's see, she's moved a good portion of the moon or Earth on multiple occasions.... that's 73.47 quintillion tons for the moon and about 6 sextillion tons for the Earth ... but it was only partial, she had help from two other people... she did strain, granted, but we're *probably* talking in the neighborhood of moving 2 sextillion tons. Maybe 1.5 if Superman was taking more than his fair share.

So that's like, what, 7 orders of magnitude more?

Yea, I don't think Diana will be competing on those 200 trillion ton levels.

(Here's her lifting an asteroid the size of a small city. Don't know how heavy it is, but she's pretty casual about it)

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It is kinda boring how often the whole "No, Diana really is in the strength league of other high heralds," has to be repeated. It's not exactly news and the people who ask about it aren't exactly newbies, you know?

Diana also had help with the planet which still failed, which also can not be compared with the Hulk single-handedly stopping a world from exploding. She is not on his, level he does not need minutes to reach these levels, seconds is all he required and he exceeded Diana's best by a long shot. When was the last time that you've ever seen Diana step on the ground, and nearly sink the eastern seaboard? In a battle with the Hulk Diana would get pulverized, people keep thinking of the Hulk as a static level character, but always seem to forget that he can keep bringing the heat.

Originally posted by ctnn1
She moved a good portion? How much is "a good portion"? Since you cannot answer that, then how could you throw any number around at all?

Hell there are individual mountains on Earth in the trillion ton range.

I think current Hulk with Bannertech can win this. I am assuming classic WW, as Hulk would bite the current one's head off.

Yeah Sakaar was well outside of the 100 trillion ton range too. I'm pretty sure the 100 trillion ton feat was to give Skaar his props. The Hulk has outdone this range of power by several orders many times in the past.

I do however wonder how well Diana would take a 100 trillion ton punch to the face though? It's also strange to place a character that has problems with penetration wounds, up against a guy that has the power to increase his personal body armor as his adrenaline increases.

I'm still down for the lasso/tiara combo to ko shit.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A good portion of the moon or the Earth is safely above the trillion ton range.

Hell there are individual mountains on Earth in the trillion ton range.