Originally posted by Omega Vision
So you're more or less lowballing the entire Herald class now.That's a new low for you.
LOL... Omega, why do you think I'm always trying to low ball? What I am saying is that a trillion tons is a lot of weight for one character and I would like to see someone lift that. You could be right omega, their could be some trillion tonners out there (besides the hulk and all star Supes) but I just want to see it happening instead of me second guessing.
Originally posted by carver9
LOL... Omega, why do you think I'm always trying to low ball? What I am saying is that a trillion tons is a lot of weight for one character and I would like to see someone lift that. You could be right omega, their could be some trillion tonners out there (besides the hulk and all star Supes) but I just want to see it happening instead of me second guessing.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The idea that All Star Superman is any stronger than Current Superman has no basis in actual feats.
All Star Superman didnt get the chance to get as many feats as current Supes. Going by feats, Professor Hulk<<<All Star Supes but that one lifting feat that he showed makes me think otherwise. You cant always base things off of feats when one character didnt even get the time to gain enough feats to make a decent argument.
Originally posted by Q99
It's a simple three variable puzzle based around a single huge constant where we already know she can hang with the strongest of the three variables.Math doesn't leave all that much room for question here.
Regardless of who you think wins though, she's obviously not going to be totally overwhelmed, she's got massive strength and toughness feats and can both take hits from him and give 'em back.
The idea that she's going to be totally overwhelmed because of '100 trillion ton feats,' is silly. She can hang in this class and it's going to be a real fight.
The downplaying a few of the poster here try... well, I'm not ever sure why they try it.
I don't have a problem with people who think Current Hulk would win. I do have something of a problem with people who try and do so via poor arguing and blatant undercutting, in other words. It's really not a convincing argument.
Even at Wonder Woman's best, (as you seem to keep bringing up) she is not as strong as the Hulk, at her average she pales big time. We also know that while in flight Superman can lift far more than normal. What we saw when they tugged that planet was likely Superman's flight doing most of the work.
Wonder Woman also wouldn't last very long against a crazed Superman that was out for blood. This talk of her being on his level is BS, she isn't on his level at all, and she's even admitted this.
The Hulk is so much stronger than Wonder Woman. He was able to out muscle a planet that was going to explode. She was barely able to tug 1-10% of a planet. There is a huge difference, whether or not you choose to admit it, the killer here is that he can exceed this amount of power within moments. Please stop trying to make Wonder Woman his peer in terms of strength, because she isn't on his level. If she was I would be able to admit that she is, but his power set dictates that no one is on his level, and if they are it's not for very long.
Originally posted by Stoic
but his power set dictates that no one is on his level, and if they are it's not for very long.
*COUGH*he-man*COUGH*
lol anyways while i believe superman could pull this off im thinking wonder women has less of a chance...unless she can out think him.
(im in no way d-grading her i just don't think shes up to it)
Originally posted by KontonNo, the only way she did so was through her stealth meaning straight up she can't hang which is my point. If she uses her skills, hides, and uses animals to flee then she has a chance.
Didn't happen. And it was more than hiding. She used her quasi-enchanted stealth ability to move from his field of vision and capitalize on his weaknesses. A very typical thing to in a fight, wouldn't you say?
Context. She was able to kick-trip him and land blows just like he did to her. She stealthed and summoned animals because he wasn't even her freaking target, she had to get to Lord. He was fighting to his fullest, she was trying to defend herself while also going after another objective all together.
facepalm
Wonder Woman is not stronger than the Hulk. What the hell are you smoking? Hulk is without stronger than her. Easily. Especially the current incarnation.
Wonder Woman would get ripped in half in moments from what I've seen. Depowered and all.
By the way, Diana's best strength feat most likely is her catching that big piece of falling city/meteor. And she did not pull 1/3 of the Earth. That would imply all of those who participated in the encounter were equal. Diana and John are more or less the same level while Superman is above them both strength wise.
Her greatest non quantifiable feat is most likely when she along with Superman and Green Lantern I believe slowed the decent of the Spectre by pulling on his cape. Mehtastic but whatever.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusDon't even try. You're a phoney Hulk fan. durhulk
facepalmWonder Woman is not stronger than the Hulk. What the hell are you smoking? Hulk is without stronger than her. Easily. Especially the current incarnation.
Wonder Woman would get ripped in half in moments from what I've seen. Depowered and all.
By the way, Diana's best strength feat most likely is her catching that big piece of falling city/meteor. And she did not pull 1/3 of the Earth. That would imply all of those who participated in the encounter were equal. Diana and John are more or less the same level while Superman is above them both strength wise.
Her greatest non quantifiable feat is most likely when she along with Superman and Green Lantern I believe slowed the decent of the Spectre by pulling on his cape. Mehtastic but whatever.