Apocalypse vs Thor

Started by Starscream M7 pages

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, there's a staggering difference between a Mjolnir-less younger Thor and current Thor with Mjolnir and what they can do offensively and defensively.
young thor's durability is no different than adult thor's

Originally posted by Starscream M
young thor's durability is no different than adult thor's

Would you care to do a feat comparison between the two?

Yeah, Young Thor staggered the dick out of Gorr, and his sharp hammer was likely not enchanted back then

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse has more than likely evolved his body since that encounter as well.

If Apocalypse used a forcefield or teleports the axe away Thor dies that day.

Split or edge to Thor.

What I don't get is, WTF does "young" Thor mean in the context of this fight? He's THOUSANDS (millions?) of years old. What possible difference would 800 or so years make (between this showing vs Apoc and his current self) in his physical prowess? He was just missing Mjolnir, that's it. Everything else should be more or less equal to "current" Thor.

That's like me saying it was a "young" Apocalypse that took on "young" Thor.

Originally posted by Starscream M
young thor's durability is no different than adult thor's

Yes, it is. 😬

Young Thor hasn't reached his peak strength and raw physical power. If you think Apocalypse could do the same thing he did to young Thor to current Thor and get the same results, I'd suggest looking at everything Thor's endured since he first came to Earth in modern times. And I'm talking about his averages, not his ridiculous high end feats.

Originally posted by Starscream M
young thor's durability is no different than adult thor's

Mjolnir's energy soak and ability to generate shielding are a big factor.

Originally posted by zopzop
Split or edge to Thor.

What I don't get is, WTF does "young" Thor mean in the context of this fight? He's THOUSANDS (millions?) of years old. What possible difference would 800 or so years make (between this showing vs Apoc and his current self) in his physical prowess? He was just missing Mjolnir, that's it. Everything else should be more or less equal to "current" Thor.

That's like me saying it was a "young" Apocalypse that took on "young" Thor.

Feats, really. Also the fact that when we've seen flashbacks to Thor in ancient times, we've gotten narration of Thor not having yet reached his physical peak.

Unless you want to take that feat of Apocalypse and think the same thing would happen to a guy who, chronologically speaking in universe, has endured some ridiculous stuff since then.

Originally posted by zopzop
Split or edge to Thor.

What I don't get is, WTF does "young" Thor mean in the context of this fight? He's THOUSANDS (millions?) of years old. What possible difference would 800 or so years make (between this showing vs Apoc and his current self) in his physical prowess? He was just missing Mjolnir, that's it. Everything else should be more or less equal to "current" Thor.

That's like me saying it was a "young" Apocalypse that took on "young" Thor.


You said what I wanted to say. Thor is probably way older than Apocalypse, so Apocalypse was "young" as well.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Mjolnir's energy soak and ability to generate shielding are a big factor.
yes, thats true...but that doesn't change the fact that thor's actual durability is no differnt

The Apocalypse fight happened like 120 years apart from the Gorr fights

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes, thats true...but that doesn't change the fact that thor's actual durability is no differnt

It is. And it's supported by feats and statements.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, it is. 😬

Young Thor hasn't reached his peak strength and raw physical power. If you think Apocalypse could do the same thing he did to young Thor to current Thor and get the same results, I'd suggest looking at everything Thor's endured since he first came to Earth in modern times. And I'm talking about his averages, not his ridiculous high end feats.

Fight took place in 1100 AD per the comic. That wasn't teenage Thor, but it was pre-Mjolnir worthy Thor. I don't think Thor waited until the 1900s to 'bloom'.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes, thats true...but that doesn't change the fact that thor's actual durability is no differnt

Then you'll have no trouble posting durability feats for "young Thor" that match those of classic/current Thor.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Fight took place in 1100 AD per the comic. That wasn't teenage Thor, but it was pre-Mjolnir worthy Thor. I don't think Thor waited until the 1900s to 'bloom'.

By feats, Thor from the modern age is physically superior to Thor from flashbacks, even when he has Mjolnir. Plus we have multiple instances where Thor actually wields Mjolnir as a teenager and he didn't have anything close to the feats as he does in the modern era.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then you'll have no trouble posting durability feats for "young Thor" that match those of classic/current Thor.
durability does not change as one ages

as much as you'd like to give that attribute to thor, he has the same durability as he did centuries ago

Originally posted by Starscream M
durability does not change as one ages

as much as you'd like to give that attribute to thor, he has the same durability as he did centuries ago

Then you'll have no trouble posting durability feats for "young Thor" that match those of classic/current Thor.

Originally posted by Starscream M
what a little thorbag you are

apoc never utilized his full repertoire against thor...he could simply grow to the size of a skyscraper and grab thor with one hand and step on him

Yea, that's what will happen. Shut up.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You say this while Thor ran away in the same comic to enchant his weapon...

Yea, Thor retreated to even the odds. I didn't berate him for fleeing from Thor, I mocked him because he was whining like a *** the moment he lost the advantage.

The Apocalypse fight reminds me heavily of the hype behind Bor and the whole "Had he not had Odinforce, he would be kill!!!!"

But now the narration is being ignored, and suddenly Thor was doing spells to harden his durability apparently.

Thor fans, amirite Bruce?

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Fight took place in 1100 AD per the comic. That wasn't teenage Thor, but it was pre-Mjolnir worthy Thor. I don't think Thor waited until the 1900s to 'bloom'.

I actually have no idea how old this version of Thor is. He's directly referred as young and is obviously no grown-up Thor but he looks like a pretty grown man despite him only receiving Mjolnir in his mid-late teens classically.