Batman vs Superman

"Again, its already happened. And in 2 of the three times, Batman was in his fifties and suffering from heart problems. All 3 times Batman rocked Superman's world, because he's always known that someday he might have to. The second time this happened, he sent Supes into a shameful seclusion in the fortress of solitude that Wonder Woman had to go and get him out of."

That's true, but a large portion of that is coming from the writer. Frankly, it wouldn't be that interesting to see Superman defeat Batman, because anyone who's not blinded by their love for Bats knows that he SHOULD go down. And I don't care if you've prepared your entire life for it, if Superman attacks you at full speed, you'll be dead before you know the fight started.

And Superman isn't just going to go running into a trap. He's not going to be like "RAAHHR SUPES SMASH" and barge into the Batcave.

It's not a question Batman can beat supes, he can. I don't think he can kill him but its more an issue of why Batman fans (which I am) think Supes CAN'T beat Batman at all!!!

Originally posted by David Duchovony
The bottom line is Batman with prep-time, an array of gadgets and on top of his mental and physical game could not beat a Superman who anticipates this assault, on top of his game, using all his powers and not holding back at all. Hell, I think Bats with 2 months prep-time could not topple the man of steel. I mean even if he fashions a suit out of synthetic or pure Kryptonite and Superman delivers a blow using superspeed, no games, he's as dead as a doornail.

tell that to the writers who made Batman defeat Superman with a whole lot of thinking to do it. 3 TIMES!!!!

As I went to find out more about the 3 battles with Superman I found out that It wasnt no walk in the park even with the K-Ring for Batman to defeat Superman. He frequently had to think and think and think he did to defeat Superman cause he knows pratically Superman can just kill him in one shot!

Okay about the Superman being prepared also, well I dont know but Superman did a blasted good job fighting Batman with the K-Ring. He was prepared the way it looked to me and was using his brain when battleing batman.

When it comes to Brain power though I have to give to Batman. He just finds as a way like the DC writers have said so by making Batman win somehow. It is a like Chess game, Batman is the better Chess player.

Batman can do it..and has..with his legendary prep time he is almost impossible to be..sure he is just a man but a highly skilled man who has a nack for making the odds roll in his favor.

Originally posted by David Duchovony
It's not a question Batman can beat supes, he can. I don't think he can kill him but its more an issue of why Batman fans (which I am) think Supes CAN'T beat Batman at all!!!

But can Superman beat Batman ? Well duh, of course he can, he doesn't even has to leave his favorite chair.

You guy's are still giving Batman too much credit, like someone said above Superman beating Batman is the "obvious" almost automatic response when coming to terms with a versus battle. I mean ones leagues stronger, more versatile and has too many advantages to his name. The writers goal is to "surprise" the reader and give them a creative perception on the battle, thus Batman winning.

Trust me, I saw Batman beat the Hulk once and we all KNOW the hulk would D-E-S-T-R-O-Y Batman, screw logic and intellectualism..Batman is indeed smart BUT we all know Superman could physically disembowl(nasty word) Batman before Bruce's brain would develop diarrhea..

I said it before and I'll say it again, Batman will and always will be second to Superman in every aspect, whether it be defeating more powerful foes, being more popular, or just plain kicking the others butt Superman is DC's #1 hero and that statement alone says it all. Face it, shallow as it sounds its the gawd awful truth....

It would seem to me you are giving Superman far too much credit OJ.

Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
You guy's are still giving Batman too much credit, like someone said above Superman beating Batman is the "obvious" almost automatic response when coming to terms with a versus battle. I mean ones leagues stronger, more versatile and has too many advantages to his name. The writers goal is to "surprise" the reader and give them a creative perception on the battle, thus Batman winning.

Trust me, I saw Batman beat the Hulk once and we all KNOW the hulk would D-E-S-T-R-O-Y Batman, screw logic and intellectualism..Batman is indeed smart BUT we all know Superman could physically disembowl(nasty word) Batman before Bruce's brain would develop diarrhea..

I said it before and I'll say it again, Batman will and always will be second to Superman in every aspect, whether it be defeating more powerful foes, being more popular, or just plain kicking the others butt Superman is DC's #1 hero and that statement alone says it all. Face it, shallow as it sounds its the gawd awful truth....

I must disagree..Superman is the number #2 hero...it's clear that the guy that has a base in a cave is the number #1 hero and icon.

Wrong again. I'm not a Superman fan lol, but let's be honest, if there ever was a superhero icon, it's Superman. Not Tarzan, not Zorro, not D'Artagnan, not Robin Hood, not Willem Tell, but Superman.

their are many who would disagree with that...but I will respect your statment like the intelligent human that I am.

This could go either way. Even though, on paper, Superman has massive advantages in every respect, Batman has the uncanny knack of being able to level out any playing field.

Guess when you're the only bloke in the JLA with no powers, it pays to be a backstabbing cheat lol!

Of course, with no kyptonite and no preptime, Batman would get creamed by Superman's awesome powers. But since when has Batman been so un-prepared?

"Of course, with no kyptonite and no preptime, Batman would get creamed by Superman's awesome powers. But since when has Batman been so un-prepared?"

This is by far one of the wisest statements made in Batman's defense, and I'm even on Superman's side in this argument. 😉

I have to say it though. To what extent can anyone prepare for a battle with Superman? When the bell rings, you would have to react faster than SUPERMAN simply to avoid being killed. I admit that Batman has probably been preparing to take Supes down from the day he met him (just in case). But his preperations had to have been made with the assumption that he has at least a few SECONDS to enact his plan. And that's time that he won't have.

Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
You guy's are still giving Batman too much credit, like someone said above Superman beating Batman is the "obvious" almost automatic response when coming to terms with a versus battle. I mean ones leagues stronger, more versatile and has too many advantages to his name. The writers goal is to "surprise" the reader and give them a creative perception on the battle, thus Batman winning.

Trust me, I saw Batman beat the Hulk once and we all KNOW the hulk would D-E-S-T-R-O-Y Batman, screw logic and intellectualism..Batman is indeed smart BUT we all know Superman could physically disembowl(nasty word) Batman before Bruce's brain would develop diarrhea..

I said it before and I'll say it again, Batman will and always will be second to Superman in every aspect, whether it be defeating more powerful foes, being more popular, or just plain kicking the others butt Superman is DC's #1 hero and that statement alone says it all. Face it, shallow as it sounds its the gawd awful truth....

Batman beat the hulk? hell yeah, go batman 💃

Batman defeated Superman 3 times, so I guess somehow the writers disagree with you!

They are same popularity. Batman was in the Shadow of Superman in the early goings but he aint no more and Superman again I have to blasted say this aint more popular than Batman or else he wouldnt have lost to Batman 3 times!!! They wouldnt have let that happend if the Comic Book politics of their number#1 hero would of come into play..

so that kills your theory of Superman being over Batman!

That statement alone you just said doesnt kill anything, It just says your opinion!!

Batman Beats every one some how but i dont undfer stand why superman is that dumb to get owned by bats all the time. Clearly he should wear a suit so kryptonite wont affect him. Even so he should just use that super speed of his to mess up bats or any one else . Super speed come on supes you could fly in the airrrrrrrrr away from him. Superman you could shoot laserssss, i just dont understand. Maybe superman knows he could beat people like that but just doesnt want to hurt the poor people that could get killed with his finger, so he has to be carefull, its also his downfall.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
Batman beat the hulk? hell yeah, go batman 💃

Batman defeated Superman 3 times, so I guess somehow the writers disagree with you!

They are same popularity. Batman was in the Shadow of Superman in the early goings but he aint no more and Superman again I have to blasted say this aint more popular than Batman or else he wouldnt have lost to Batman 3 times!!! They wouldnt have let that happend if the Comic Book politics of their number#1 hero would of come into play..

so that kills your theory of Superman being over Batman!

That statement alone you just said doesnt kill anything, It just says your opinion!!

You say that the writers disagree with Superman beating Batman. That may very well be true, but either way, imagine what a Superman beating Batman comic book would be like. About one panel of "fighting" and another of Batman lying very, very still on the ground. It's the writers job to be creative and interesting and surprise the reader, and that's what Batman triumphing over Superman on three seperate occasions is about.

Yeah, I don't think Superman has ever TRIED to beat Batman. If Superman put even five minutes of prep into beating Batman, Batman would be finished. It's always been one-sided, with Batman preparing to fight Superman, and Superman not really wanting to fight Batman and playing the "nice guy" role. If they were both equally committed to taking each other down, make no mistake, that would be it for Batman.

Originally posted by demigawd
Yeah, I don't think Superman has ever TRIED to beat Batman. If Superman put even five minutes of prep into beating Batman, Batman would be finished. It's always been one-sided, with Batman preparing to fight Superman, and Superman not really wanting to fight Batman and playing the "nice guy" role. If they were both equally committed to taking each other down, make no mistake, that would be it for Batman.

Thank you, I could not have said it better myself.

Yes, Batman has defeated Superman 3 times, but if Superman (unrestrained and not holding back) defeated Batman just once, there's no way Batman would come back from that one defeat. He'd be dead.

Batman is more dangerous dead than alive.