Juggernaut...the debate to end all debates...

Originally posted by KillAll
[B]he would have gotten back up after hulk hit him. but seconds later, he was knocked unconsciouss by a phsychic backlash 😉 did you read it at all??

LOL..yes..I used to own it.....and jugghead's little boitch ass was laying on the on the ground, slumped forward....on his knees(probably praying to God that the Proffessor wouldn't kill him) with his head slumped down......

So you call that not being hurt..I don't know my man..I guess its up to interpretation..but it sounds like your suffering from a skewed sense of logic...which can only be attributed to one thing..FANBOYISM...

it doesnt matter if his skin is 1 cell thick, or if its 50 miles thick, its going to have the same amount of durability. just like the asgardian destroyer. both are indestructable because of magic spells. and when somebody hits him... what dictates if they are hurt or not, is thier own durability not thiers. also to send him flying all you have to do is be able to move about half a ton. cause thats all he weighs.

I disagree..the more massive and dense you are..the harder you going to be to move..it's common physics my man....

regardless of whether he is moved or not..he shouldn't be freaking reeeeeling on his arse from a single blow..if your skin is that damb durable..and your stamina that inexhaustable..your ass should hop right back up after someone hits you....

jarred or dazed has nothing to do with it. juggernaut still has basic human functions even though he doesnt need them. such as breathing. or drinking, or eating. he does all of them. but he doesnt have to. same thing with his balance. all one needs to do to daze him is hit him hard enough to stir up the equiliberium. its quite simple...

Your making absolutely no sense my man...😮 Having a normal equalibrium is a "physical characteristic" of being human..the central area in the body in which human equilibrium is processed is the brain stem, which if I'm not mistaken..is a "physical" part of our bodies..if someone could hit Ol jugghead hard enough to damage his freaking brainstem(which is what they would have to do to get him jarred/dazed/off balance..) than that would tell me one of two things...

1. Juggernaut is not completely physically invulnerable..
2. Something of sufficient force could quite possible destroy his brain stem..thus leaving him virtually brain dead..

That would count as a physical win... would it not..lol..please do not use science anymore while debating..you have no idea what your talking about..

..his helmet isnt the same as his clothing. it has been destroyed before.

From all the information I've ever read about Ol Jugghead..I've always seen it stated that his helmet is made out of the same material as his clothing..and thus cannot be removed by anything other than "mystical means.." This has been disproven on more than one occassion by the Hulk..(Professor and Savage both have knocked the damb helmet off..read Hulk 172..and Hulk 404)

Thunderstrike also removed the Helmet using the Executioner's Axe..and Jugghead admitted that the only way the axe could do that was because it was based on "mystical" properties...

read above. see the part about "equiliberium".... just because he "umphs" doesnt mean he's feeling pain. after all it could be just air being forced out of his lungs (yes, despite being a huge engine of destruction he still has lungs, even though he doesnt need them).

No more science..lol..you have no idea what you talking about..you should be the posterboy for those "stay in school" commercials..

and you are presenting nothing new that hanst been said before either. so where are you trying to go with this??

and your mamma is a big fat she plays hop scotch like this..New York...Nevada..California...lol..oh I forgot we were debating comic books...read above if you need any more clarification..

we dont have to, you do a good job of that yourself 😄

I am a little boitch..but I'm a little boitch who at least knows what he's talking bout.. 😎

So JuggFans have you had enough..you still disappoint me..are there any Fanboys out there who aren't LD..or half retarded..puuuhlease give me a challenge..cause so far you all have come out looking pretty dupid... 😆

juggy's invulnerablity is absolutley impenitrable but that doesnt mean he caant get thown around if there's someone strong enuff to do it . no matter how bad it looks he still wouldnt feel it.................perhaps dirty his clothes or something but thats it. but no one is gonna beat him to death anytime soon. not even thanos cosmic force could overwhlem so easily.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
LOL..yes..I used to own it.....and jugghead's little boitch ass was laying on the on the ground, slumped forward....on his knees(probably praying to God that the Proffessor wouldn't kill him) with his head slumped down......

and that means?? juggernauts been knocked down before 😉 even hulk has been knocked down before (by juggernaut).

Originally posted by whobdamandog
So you call that not being hurt..I don't know my man..I guess its up to interpretation..but it sounds like your suffering from a skewed sense of logic...which can only be attributed to one thing..FANBOYISM...

i call it not being hurt, the writer (peter david) called it not being hurt. which was the purpose of him adding the phsychic backlash. to end the fight 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
I disagree..the more massive and dense you are..the harder you going to be to move..it's common physics my man....

no, thats a matter of weight. juggernaut only weighs 900 lbs. of course hulk can move him. spiderman can move him if hes just standing there 😉 any 1 ton character could move him, if hes just standing there. who has an odd perception of things here??? i think its YOU "my man".

Originally posted by whobdamandog
regardless of whether he is moved or not..he shouldn't be freaking reeeeeling on his arse from a single blow..if your skin is that damb durable..and your stamina that inexhaustable..your ass should hop right back up after someone hits you....

it was only seconds. hulk screams GET OUT and breaks free of the backlash. when it shows juggernauts face 😮 he isnt slumped over anymore (meaning he was probably getting back up). and also you said it yourself he was slumped forward after hulk hit him, yet when the backlash hit, he was then laying in the other direction on his back. implying he was getting up. but he cant stay up if he is knocked unconsciouss by a backlash.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Your making absolutely no sense my man...😮 Having a normal equalibrium is a "physical characteristic" of being human..the central area in the body in which human equilibrium is processed is the brain stem, which if I'm not mistaken..is a "physical" part of our bodies..if someone could hit Ol jugghead hard enough to damage his freaking brainstem(which is what they would have to do to get him jarred/dazed/off balance..) than that would tell me one of two things...

you are not making any sense. you are trying so hard to prove me wrong that you are miss informing people. you get your balance from your inner ear (fact). look it up. its called an equiliberium. every spin around in a room for a while, then when you stop it "keeps spinning" thats because when you stop the liquid in your ear KEEPS SPINNING. giving you the impression that the room is still spinning. try to walk, its a very simple experiment and i'm sure it could offset even juggernaut as he does have one 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
1. Juggernaut is not completely physically invulnerable..

yes he is.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
2. Something of sufficient force could quite possible destroy his brain stem..thus leaving him virtually brain dead..

actually, shatterstar shoved his sword into juggernauts eyes, and pressumably into his brain also, it didnt leave him brain dead. when he was stripped to the bone, his brain was pressumably gone too. but he still wasnt brain dead. you are wrong, just face it.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
That would count as a physical win... would it not..lol..please do not use science anymore while debating..you have no idea what your talking about..

actually you dont know what you are talking about. you sound so dumb its not funny. please read above 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
From all the information I've ever read about Ol Jugghead..I've always seen it stated that his helmet is made out of the same material as his clothing..and thus cannot be removed by anything other than "mystical means.." This has been disproven on more than one occassion by the Hulk..(Professor and Savage both have knocked the damb helmet off..read Hulk 172..and Hulk 404)

i dont care what information you looked up or read. juggernauts helmet/arm bands are made of a mystical metal, his "armor" is a mystical cloth. it is flexible where the others arent. just look at the damn thing. his clothing IS indestructable, the metal however is not indestructable. actually, only the bolts that secure it are whats destroyed. therefor it can be removed. the helmet has been destroyed by thor when he removed a good bit of juggernauts magic, and as you said the blood axe cut it because it was mystical. and also shatterstars sword (which is a mystical blade also) cut it. but that doesnt mean it cant be removed. you are trying to hard again. do us a favor, dont look so dumb in the future and just dont post 😄

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Thunderstrike also removed the Helmet using the Executioner's Axe..and Jugghead admitted that the only way the axe could do that was because it was based on "mystical" properties...

that has nothing to do with the bolts that secure the helmet. whats your point??

Originally posted by whobdamandog
No more science..lol..you have no idea what you talking about..you should be the posterboy for those "stay in school" commercials..

you are an idiot.... you dont know what you are talking about. you try to apply real world science to comic books, then when somebody else does it you make stuff up to try to make them look wrong. but its you thats wrong.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
and your mamma is a big fat she plays hop scotch like this..New York...Nevada..California...lol..oh I forgot we were debating comic books...read above if you need any more clarification..

you should read above, i hope i could school you in this area.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
I am a little boitch..but I'm a little boitch who at least knows what he's talking bout.. 😎

riiiiiiiiight. you fooled me.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
So JuggFans have you had enough..you still disappoint me..are there any Fanboys out there who aren't LD..or half retarded..puuuhlease give me a challenge..cause so far you all have come out looking pretty dupid... 😆

lol, i think you are the one thats LD. but we will see when you reply again. what could you possibly make up today

*waits for reply*

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Excuse me..don't take offense to this but..WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?..if someone knocks him to the ground with a punch, or if he falls to the ground because of someone punching him.. wouldn't that be the same damb thing..lol..yeah I think so too..

And I never made any arguments against him being invulnerable to pain or being immovable..read the initial topic again..(however both of these attributes are highly debateable as well)

Seriously...could you try to make just a little sense. Someone punching you in the stomach and then you falling to the ground moments later as a result of the pain is SIGNIFICANTLY different than swinging down onto someone knocking them to their knees.

What you are talking about is balance, not their vulnerability to pain.

Do you know what inertia is?

What do you think would happen to Juggy's beady little head(not his entire body) if over 100,000 billion tons of pressure were applied to it in any given direction? Well the law of inertia would dictate that the head would be going in the same direction as the pressure that was applied to it...

A blow of that magnitude is capable of destroying a planet...Champion is capable of such a blow....Can Juggy survive withstand impacts which are powerful enough to destroy planets..possibly..but if he since he has been folded like a lawn chair by blows from lesser being like the hulk/Thor/colossus..my initial thought would be..don't think soo..

Do you understand who Juggernaut is?

You're right, Juggernaut's head would be going in the same directions as the pressure that was applied to it. And his body would follow along with it. This is a comic book character, take the physics and throw them out the window. Juggernaut has been suspended in air by Jean Gray and SOMEHOW managed to continue his forward momentum.

A blow of that magnitude would send him rocketing out of Earth's atmosphere on a none stop course through the solar system....but it wouldn't turn his head into bug guts on a windshield.

So basically what your saying is that if Tyrant, Champion, or Thanos were able to pick the gem up with their hands..they wouldn't be able to apply enough pressure and force to crush it..I highly disagree my friend....

Things that are mystic in nature..have been destroyed physically..Thors hammer..the crimson bands of cytorrak...to name a few..kind of weakens your..."only mystic and destroy mystic" argument...

and how would they get this crystal? where would they find it?

Regardless, you are correct....they could almost certainly destroy the gem using physical force, but that's not physically defeating the Juggernaut.

If you were to destroy the physical crystal, in theory, Juggernaut would turn back into Cain Marko. The argument being put forth is that physically you are not going to be able to beat Juggernaut bad enough to "break" the protection created by the gem.

Destroying the gem itself is another matter all together. Ideally, yes, it "could" be destroyed by such a force.

being able to feel pain...and being able to be physically overwhelmed/defeated are too different things. Take the character Madcap for example..he doesn't feel pain..but he can be KO'd by an individual who is physically stronger than him..

Hi, who are we talking about here?

Some three musketeer wanna be who was doused by Compound X07 or someone who is mystically protected by the exemplar of power.

Juggernaut cannot be knocked unconscious by physical force. You can knock him out using psychic attacks...that's his weakness. Strength isn't everything...

[The clarity is there..its just the level of understanding is lacking..lol..for those of you who are slow minded..let me repeat the question in simple words for those who lack the capacity to comprehend..

Can Jug Jug go down down by punch punch from big strong superguy?

Jesus, who are you calling slow minded?

You're the only person on this site that has a hard time grasping some pretty simple super powers. By definition of the characters powers, NO jug jug CANNOT go down down by punch punch from big strong guy.

by down down i assume you mean knocked unconscious, being knocked to the ground is entirely possible.

I know you think you're a cool guy by talking down to me like a 5 year old and then by laughing at your own amazingly moronic comments...but please, no one finds you funny. Most find you stupid.....at best.

And no "mystic only beats mystic" BS..give me some real facts..good arguments..(where's JuggernautFan when you need him) make me a believer..

okay jug fans..show me what you got...

The whole mystic vs. mystic comment was in regard to possibly negating the effects of the crystal upon Cain Marko the character himself.

What I am trying to get through your thick skull is....Physically, those 5 characters CANNOT hit Juggernaut hard enough to destroy the protection given to Cain Marko by the gem of Cyttorak

So why wouldn't it be possible for someone who rivals the power of the gem to "physically" overwhelm him?

you really can't see how ^ that question is unclear? 😕

i musta missed this post.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
A blow of that magnitude is capable of destroying a planet...Champion is capable of such a blow....Can Juggy survive withstand impacts which are powerful enough to destroy planets..possibly..but if he since he has been folded like a lawn chair by blows from lesser being like the hulk/Thor/colossus..my initial thought would be..don't think soo..

define folded by colossus 😉 colossus has the strength to knock juggernaut down (he has before) but he was knocked unconsciouss when juggernaut wanted him to be knocked unconsciouss. thor has had much more trouble with juggernaut, than hulk. how is that supposed to help your arguements??

Originally posted by whobdamandog
So basically what your saying is that if Tyrant, Champion, or Thanos were able to pick the gem up with their hands..they wouldn't be able to apply enough pressure and force to crush it..I highly disagree my friend....

here is where you are getting confused. i didnt say ALL mystical objectsc could be destroyed only by mystical means. the gem is where juggernauts power is funneled through, yes, but it has no enchantments to make it invulnerable. the crimson bands of cyttorak have never been broken via physical means 😉 neither has thors hammer. its been destroyed before, but by mystical means. the destroyer could be destroyed, but only through mystical means. same with the juggernaut.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Things that are mystic in nature..have been destroyed physically..Thors hammer..the crimson bands of cytorrak...to name a few..kind of weakens your..."only mystic and destroy mystic" argument...

when has thors hammer been destroyed by anything other than mystical means??

p.s. this is all i thought worthy of my time, since the rest sounded like it came from someone who is LD.

rofl 😆 whobdamandog you crackhead, 😆 talking about hop scotch ahahahahaa-not funny 😐

ok, looks like killall has ended this debate, I think juggernaut has done quite well, i mean taking everything physical without a scratch in most of his glorious caree, now besides juggernaut getting up as proof that the attack didnt hurt him, he also not truely knocking him flat, but more like hulks punch picked him up and he fell to his knees. Then he began to get up right after then the backlash. (Even though the author said he couldnt be hurt that should be proof enough)

Lets give him a hand for making himself look "dupid", magically stripped of his flesh and organs, taking godforce, trading punching with stonecutter in the process creating earthquakes, getting hit with stellaris celestial armor blast, Harmlessly absorbed a million volts of electricity, direct blast from the new-look Cyclops that was described by him as being able to "rip a small planet in half" with a smile as The Juggernaut's only reaction,

Now ok so cyclops blast was described to be able to rip a small planet in half, so juggrernaut smiled, what do you think would be the outcome if someone hit him with enough force to destroy a planet??????

Nothing Can Stop The Juggernaut 👿

Originally posted by long pig
i believe Forge once invented a device that could supress superhuman powers...so i dont see why he couldnt use that then shoot the big fugger in the head..shit....with that gun he could take out anyone...i sooo forgot about that

Magneto had a similar dampener built into Asteroid M. I doubt it works on magic though, probably suppresses powers based on the em spectrum ie. mutant powers, probably cosmic as well.

Ganging up on me huh..two against one..lol..well I guess it does take about a couple of retards to outsmart one regular person..so it's probably going to take a hell of a lot more of you to take this little "boitch" down...💃

Originally posted by KillAll
[B]and that means?? juggernauts been knocked down before 😉 even hulk has been knocked down before (by juggernaut).

Excuse me sir but..WHAT THE HELL KIND OF LOGIC IS THAT? Who cares if Hulk has been knocked down..the whole freaking topic of this debate is whether or not JUGGERNAUT CAN BE PHYSICALLY KO'D......Good lord..what's a guy gotta do to get you all to understand..

Relating the failings of other characters does not support your argument in the least..

i call it not being hurt, the writer (peter david) called it not being hurt. which was the purpose of him adding the phsychic backlash. to end the fight 😉

Duuude..what's wrong wit ya..I'm not going to repeat myself again on this because I've already made my point...Most intelligent minded would interpret the situation the same as I....lol

The backlash knocked him out..I never stated it didn't..But the professor's fists knocked him on his ass...skewed sense of logic all the way..please do not tell me that you want to be a lawyer when you grow up...

"..no, thats a matter of weight. juggernaut only weighs 900 lbs. of course hulk can move him. spiderman can move him if hes just standing there 😉 any 1 ton character could move him, if hes just standing there. who has an odd perception of things here??? i think its YOU "my man..."

Please read the post again...never said he wouldn't be moved..I stated it would be very difficult to move him..lol...Please do me a favor..STAY IN SCHOOL AND LEARN TO READ...

Durability has to do with the way mass is "distributed" in an object...
Certain objects..made from the same material..are more dense/heavier than others..making them more durable...aluminum foil..is not as durable as a 15 inch thick wall made out of aluminum..lol..why don't you do a test and try some thick aluminum foil and some aluminum siding with your hand...then tell me which one is more durable...lol(jeez you guys are soo easy to make look dupid)

so in relation to your inital post..mass/thickness/weight does play a part in durability..no more science stuff puuuhlease..lol..you have no idea what your talking about...

...it was only seconds. hulk screams GET OUT and breaks free of the backlash. when it shows juggernauts face 😮 he isnt slumped over anymore (meaning he was probably getting back up). and also you said it yourself he was slumped forward after hulk hit him, yet when the backlash hit, he was then laying in the other direction on his back. implying he was getting up. but he cant stay up if he is knocked unconsciouss by a backlash..."

WTF...seconds..Yeah he was screaming like a loon..had enough time to say give a little speech(ie your mucking with my head...your not my father...who are you get out of my head)..lol...dude it took my about 15 seconds just to write that..and that wasn't everything he said..the whole scenario lasted for a couple of pages...lol..and your saying that it took a couple(2) seconds for him to say all that..lol..

Forward, backwards, upside down..all around..what the hell does it matter what position he is in after the backlash..we know that his arse is down on the ground before it....lol..he could have just have easily fallen on his back from that same position....

the fact of the matter is that he got knocked down on his arse before the backlash...and showed very little signs of getting back up...

...you are not making any sense. you are trying so hard to prove me wrong that you are miss informing people. you get your balance from your inner ear (fact). look it up. its called an equiliberium. every spin around in a room for a while, then when you stop it "keeps spinning" thats because when you stop the liquid in your ear KEEPS SPINNING. giving you the impression that the room is still spinning. try to walk, its a very simple experiment and i'm sure it could offset even juggernaut as he does have one 😉.."

Dude I'm not trying but against you it just comes so easily...lol..please read the post again..(or if you don't know how to read..please learn how to..hooked on phonics works great..)

What I stated was that "the central area in the body in which human equilibrium is processed is the brain stem"

Do you know what "processed" means..

go to this website..

http://www.vertigo-dizziness.com/english/equilibrium_pathologies/what_is_it.html

I'm don't have the time or patience to explain it to you..get your dad or mom to help you understand...

yes he is.

way to support your position there buddy...with such keen logic..I might as well through in the towell right now..🙄

actually, shatterstar shoved his sword into juggernauts eyes, and pressumably into his brain also, it didnt leave him brain dead. when he was stripped to the bone, his brain was pressumably gone too. but he still wasnt brain dead. you are wrong, just face it.

Probably the best argument you've had so far..lol..he was still hurt from the sword through the eye though(he was bleeding)..but as he said in the issue(I think it was spider-man right.."his magic's heal him very quickly.."😉 so that kind of kills the invulnerability argument..if he himself stated that he needs to be healed after receiving such a blow..

And what we're debating..How many shots from Shatterstar's sword could Jugghead have taken and continued to heal himself..that's up in the air..besides..the swords had mystical properties to it..and the whole point to this debate is for the last damb time is...CAN HE BE PHYSICALLY OVERWHELMED!! 😠

actually you dont know what you are talking about. you sound so dumb its not funny. please read above 😉

lol refer to above mentioned posts and "equilibrium" website..lol..maybe then you'll understand who's really confused...

i dont care what information you looked up or read. juggernauts helmet/arm bands are made of a mystical metal, his "armor" is a mystical cloth. it is flexible where the others arent. just look at the damn thing. his clothing IS indestructable, the metal however is not indestructable. actually, only the bolts that secure it are whats destroyed. therefor it can be removed. the helmet has been destroyed by thor when he removed a good bit of juggernauts magic, and as you said the blood axe cut it because it was mystical. and also shatterstars sword (which is a mystical blade also) cut it. but that doesnt mean it cant be removed. you are trying to hard again. do us a favor, dont look so dumb in the future and just dont post 😄

okay

that has nothing to do with the bolts that secure the helmet. whats your point??

you are an idiot.... you dont know what you are talking about. you try to apply real world science to comic books, then when somebody else does it you make stuff up to try to make them look wrong. but its you thats wrong.

Obviously you care/know nothing about facts or logic..or else this debate would have been over a long time ago..lol..your not a bad debater..you just need to get a better education..I'll repeat again..puhleaaase..puhleaasse stay in school....😆

and linkalicious...your just too much for me to handle..(actually ready your post again..full of oxy-moronics..your arguments made no sense..and I'm not an English teacher..I don't have time to correct..) so anyway..lol..I concede to your superior logic(sic) and wisdom(sic)

Why isnt the hulk listing there?

Ok so what you saying is that those two hulk punches hurt juggernaut, and Thors godforce didnt hurt juggernaut, ok thx now i get it 😆

I don't know about hurt,but I'm sure getting hit like that unexpectedly knocked the wind out of him for a moment. Hence the "Ummf!" when suddenly having a fist push his stomach in. But this isn't there in a fight scenario unless you're saying Superman will pretend to be The Juggernaut's partner in the middle of the fight then sucker punch him.

Answere me this why would the writer put in the backlash if hulk hurt him 😉

yep juggy can be knocked out. he's been knockied out plenty of tiems plenty of ways. he's been hit unconsious (yess dammit knocked unconsious), had physic blasts that knocked him unconsis and nimrod's attack knocked him unconsious. so don't give me that"he can't be knocked out" bullshit

Originally posted by talon00x
[B]Ok so what you saying is that those two hulk punches hurt juggernaut, and Thors godforce didnt hurt juggernaut, ok thx now i get it 😆

I don't know about hurt,but I'm sure getting hit like that unexpectedly knocked the wind out of him for a moment. Hence the "Ummf!" when suddenly having a fist push his stomach in. But this isn't there in a fight scenario unless you're saying Superman will pretend to be The Juggernaut's partner in the middle of the fight then sucker punch him.

Yeah that was pretty retarded for the GodForce blast not to hurt him..I mean damb..it hurt Galactus..it should have hurt Juggy..and I would consider Jugghead's durability to be way below that of a cosmic entity...chalk it up to poor writing..

....but in defense to the issue..the Godforce was able to push him back..who knows how long he would have been able to withstand it from pushing him back..its quite possible he could have been overwhelmed by it at some point...it was an inconconclusive battle(like most marvel battles) anyways...and really didn't determine anything...

Answer me this why would the writer put in the backlash if hulk hurt him 😉

Answer me this.. why would the writer have juggernaut's helmet be knocked off...if it could only be taken off through a mystical attack..lol

and why the hell would his suit be invulnerable..but not his helmet or the bolts that keep it attached to the suit..lol..logic people..please start using it..I'm not trying to make you look stupid..God did that..I'm just holding up the mirror..

So anyone else ready for humiliation..puhleaase step on up...taking you Jugfanboys down is so easy..lol..come on young warriors..HAVE AT ME!!

"it hurt Galactus..it should have hurt Juggy"

should have? guess the author of thor didnt think so 😄

"why would the writer have juggernaut's helmet be knocked off...if it could only be taken off through a mystical attack"

I dont know where you got that idea from, only magic can take off his helmet? His armor is indestructible but his helmet was made to block psychic attacks, where do you get your info? 😬

Ok so try to pay attension for more than two seconds this time, hulk hits juggernaut, juggernaut falls down (nothing out of the normal, he isnt the unknockabledown juggernaut, he is the unstoppable juggernaut)

This hulk topic seems to going our way since all you bring up is what you see in the pictures, (guess thats all you can do, did you go to school yourself? Can you read? if you can, read this, censored )

David,the author of the story himself,said publicly on his messageboard that The Juggernaut cannot be physically injured when asked about this very scene and that because of this physical invulnerability was why he had to have the psychic backlash thrown in that occurs in the very next panel we see Hulk and The Juggernaut. (im sorry did he say very next panle yes i will agree it was seconds it took for him to get up 😏 )

http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?rpl=020924221554&q=cain%20marko

its go time boxing

Nothing Stops The Juggernaut dev

Originally posted by baddspellahl4
yep juggy can be knocked out. he's been knockied out plenty of tiems plenty of ways. he's been hit unconsious (yess dammit knocked unconsious), had physic blasts that knocked him unconsis and nimrod's attack knocked him unconsious. so don't give me that"he can't be knocked out" bullshit

we are talking physical here. Not mental not sound waves produced by futuristic weapons, and dont even bring up onslaught

I dont know where you got that idea from, only magic can take off his helmet? His armor is indestructible but his helmet was made to block psychic attacks, where do you get your info? 😬

Dude..his helmet is made of the same mystical material as his other garments..don't believe me..lol..try this on for size..

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/juggernaut.htm

this and just about every other source I've read says the same damb thing..lol..I'm suprised a fanboy like yourself wouldn't know these pertinent facts...

Ok so try to pay attension for more than two seconds this time, hulk hits juggernaut, juggernaut falls down (nothing out of the normal, he isnt the unknockabledown juggernaut, he is the unstoppable juggernaut)

Read what you just wrote...and tell me if it makes sense...I'll get back to you when you reply..

This hulk topic seems to going our way since all you bring up is what you see in the pictures, (guess thats all you can do, did you go to school yourself? Can you read? if you can, read this, censored )

Going your way..well if you called being proved wrong from a scientific, logical, and factual standpoint going your way..then..all screw it..I forgot you can't argue logic with the illoigical...lol..

David,the author of the story himself,said publicly on his messageboard that The Juggernaut cannot be physically injured when asked about this very scene and that because of this physical invulnerability was why he had to have the psychic backlash thrown in that occurs in the very next panel we see Hulk and The Juggernaut. (im sorry did he say very next panle yes i will agree it was seconds it took for him to get up 😏 )

http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?rpl=020924221554&q=cain%20marko

Nice web site..did you do it yourself or did your parents help you..lol..

Seriously though..you expect for me to belive a post on a message board that makes reference to another post on another message board.....that doesn't even have a link to the original message board in which the statement was made?....lol..sounds..pretty ridiculous the way I've framed the question..lol...but that's exactly what you provided me with in the link above..lol..pretty ridiculous...but then that's the level of intelligence I'm dealing with in this debate....lol...

Okay jugfans...I think you've lost..you haven't proven a damb thing other than your inability to debate...and your lack of education..if this is America's future..than sad to say..we're probably doomed... 😆

...and it didn't occur the the very next panel..lol..the pages that were posted on the board were when the actual backlash occured..the punches from the Hulk and his little psychotic episode happened several pages before..(I think about 3 or 4..)...

For Cripes sake..this is the future of America....lol..man are we so screwed if any of these kids ever grows up to be in some sort of high level political position...

but then again that's kind of where our country is at now(ie.. George W Bush...lol)

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Yeah that was pretty retarded for the GodForce blast not to hurt him..I mean damb..it hurt Galactus..it should have hurt Juggy..and I would consider Jugghead's durability to be way below that of a cosmic entity...chalk it up to poor writing..

what does galactus have to do with anything??? his powers are science based, juggernauts are magic 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
....but in defense to the issue..the Godforce was able to push him back..who knows how long he would have been able to withstand it from pushing him back..its quite possible he could have been overwhelmed by it at some point...it was an inconconclusive battle(like most marvel battles) anyways...and really didn't determine anything...

i think he took it without a scratch 😉 its safe to assume he wasnt going to be hurt by it at all... you read way to much into things.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Answer me this.. why would the writer have juggernaut's helmet be knocked off...if it could only be taken off through a mystical attack..lol

nobody said it couldnt be removed by anything but a mystical attack, you are drawing your conclusion from parts unknown. its been removed several times without having mystics involved (wolverines claws, nirmod etc).

Originally posted by whobdamandog
and why the hell would his suit be invulnerable..but not his helmet or the bolts that keep it attached to the suit..lol..logic people..please start using it..I'm not trying to make you look stupid..God did that..I'm just holding up the mirror..

you are the stupid one. please try to follow, dont bother replying. the helmet has to be removed to expose juggernauts weakness (logics, duh). the helmet is a different material alltogether than his "clothing". its a cloth that covers his body, the helmet is a mystical metal.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
So anyone else ready for humiliation..puhleaase step on up...taking you Jugfanboys down is so easy..lol..come on young warriors..HAVE AT ME!!

i honestly think you are humiliating yourself...

I blame president bush. his dumassity is spreading around the nation. (and no dumassity is n't a real word)

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Relating the failings of other characters does not support your argument in the least..

u are the one that keeps mentioning juggernaut falling down. then when i tell you that it was a cosmetic attack (it didnt hurt) and other characters have knocked him down before (and in turn have been knocked down themselves) it becomes irrelavant. try to stay on subject.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Duuude..what's wrong wit ya..I'm not going to repeat myself again on this because I've already made my point...Most intelligent minded would interpret the situation the same as I....lol

you are one your own 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
The backlash knocked him out..I never stated it didn't..But the professor's fists knocked him on his ass...skewed sense of logic all the way..please do not tell me that you want to be a lawyer when you grow up...

yes, but anybody capable of moving 900lbs can knock him on his "arse" what the hell is your point... honestly??? juggernaut has knocked hulk down too, do you count that as a win?? then juggernaut just 2 issues prior has like 50 wins over hulk

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Please read the post again...never said he wouldn't be moved..I stated it would be very difficult to move him..lol...Please do me a favor..STAY IN SCHOOL AND LEARN TO READ...

you read it again, i'm not the one thats confused, and i graduated already 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Durability has to do with the way mass is "distributed" in an object...
Certain objects..made from the same material..are more dense/heavier than others..making them more durable...aluminum foil..is not as durable as a 15 inch thick wall made out of aluminum..lol..why don't you do a test and try some thick aluminum foil and some aluminum siding with your hand...then tell me which one is more durable...lol(jeez you guys are soo easy to make look dupid)

let me show you the error of your ways here. when talking about real world objects, yes density has something to do with durability. but juggernaut, it doesnt matter if his skin is a quarter inch thick, or 10,000 miles thick. its going to have the same amount of durability. his durability is based on magics, in turn are based on reality. to hurt him you would have to apply enough pressure to rent reality assunder. stop comparing him to alluminum, they work in different ways 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
so in relation to your inital post..mass/thickness/weight does play a part in durability..no more science stuff puuuhlease..lol..you have no idea what your talking about...

not with the juggernaut. you are switching subjects, and trying to compare apples and oranges. they work on totally different properties.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
WTF...seconds..Yeah he was screaming like a loon..had enough time to say give a little speech(ie your mucking with my head...your not my father...who are you get out of my head)..lol...dude it took my about 15 seconds just to write that..and that wasn't everything he said..the whole scenario lasted for a couple of pages...lol..and your saying that it took a couple(2) seconds for him to say all that..lol..

the time that elapsed consisted of juggernaut being on the ground (bottom panel on the right... on the left hand page) in a slumped position on page 24. the next time we see him he has his hands in front of him (meaning he was no longer on his hands and knees). i think that would imply getting up 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Forward, backwards, upside down..all around..what the hell does it matter what position he is in after the backlash..we know that his arse is down on the ground before it....lol..he could have just have easily fallen on his back from that same position....

ok, heres a scenario. get on your hands and knees. let me hit you with a baseball bat on the back of the head. which way are you going to fall?? straight down is the answer. are you going to have time to get up then fall to your back??? i doubt it.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
the fact of the matter is that he got knocked down on his arse before the backlash...and showed very little signs of getting back up...

and you know because?? he showed plenty of signs. went from being slumped over to having his hands in front of his face. he would have gotten back up (for cripes sake the writer will tell you that). you are fighting an uphill battle.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Dude I'm not trying but against you it just comes so easily...lol..please read the post again..(or if you don't know how to read..please learn how to..hooked on phonics works great..)

you should read it, i'm not the one all confused.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
What I stated was that "the central area in the body in which human equilibrium is processed is the brain stem"

it has to do with the liquid in your ear though. if that is disturbed you become disoriented 😉

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Probably the best argument you've had so far..lol..he was still hurt from the sword through the eye though(he was bleeding)..but as he said in the issue(I think it was spider-man right.."his magic's heal him very quickly.."😉 so that kind of kills the invulnerability argument..if he himself stated that he needs to be healed after receiving such a blow..

a mystical attack can hurt him, physical cannot.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
And what we're debating..How many shots from Shatterstar's sword could Jugghead have taken and continued to heal himself..that's up in the air..besides..the swords had mystical properties to it..and the whole point to this debate is for the last damb time is...CAN HE BE PHYSICALLY OVERWHELMED!! 😠

no he cant... his durability is based on reality. if you can make reality shutter physically, then you can hurt juggernaut. but you would have to be an extremely powerful being to do so (way above either of there levels of power).

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Obviously you care/know nothing about facts or logic..or else this debate would have been over a long time ago..lol..your not a bad debater..you just need to get a better education..I'll repeat again..puhleaaase..puhleaasse stay in school....😆

graduated... can you say the same?? this isnt about facts or logic, its about your warped perception of magics in the marvel universe...