Wiccanism as a religion [Merged]

Started by Alfheim26 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I've gotta ask . . .

Why does all this even matter to you?

Because im a heathen I follow the philosophy and beliefs of the Vikings and when Wiccans talk about my culture they always get their facts wrong and basically give a misconception of what paganism is.

Originally posted by debbiejo
As far as I know people that call themselves wiccans are very peace loving people, respectful of all things.

In occult circles they are what is known as fluffy bunnies ie pansies.

Paganism is a blanket term which has come to connote a broad set of spiritual or religious beliefs and practices of natural or polytheistic religions.

In its earliest usage, it was applied to those who continued to adhere to traditional Greek and Roman religions even after Christianity became dominant.

Originally posted by Storm
Paganism is a blanket term which has come to connote a broad set of spiritual or religious beliefs and practices of natural or polytheistic religions.

In its earliest usage, it was applied to those who continued to adhere to traditional Greek and Roman religions even after Christianity became dominant.

Yeah your right thats why Norse pagans call themselves heathens. Anyway whats your point?

That I' m not entirely sure whether your grasp the concept yourself.

Originally posted by Storm
That I' m not entirely sure whether your grasp the concept yourself.

I probably do. Explain to me the point you are trying to make in the most simplest way you can then.

I was testing your concept of what paganism entails.

Originally posted by Storm
I was testing your concept of what paganism entails.

Well yes...what dont I understand? Pagan is a latin word and as you said it refers to the Greek and the Romans and became a blanket term. All im telling you is that they dont do their research.

Whatever stuff they mix together they seem to have a lack of understanding and knowledge of any of the components.

Well....did I get your point?

I take it thats a no then. sadangel

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well yes...what dont I understand? Pagan is a latin word and as you said it refers to the Greek and the Romans and became a blanket term. All im telling you is that they dont do their research.

Whatever stuff they mix together they seem to have a lack of understanding and knowledge of any of the components.


The notorious "they". I wonder who comprises that group. If your intention is to target the wiccans, then you have to specify so in your post. Even then, it would still be a false generalisation. In the light of talking about pagans and paganism as a whole, I interpret "they" as every single pagan.

Storm, people generalize for the sake of simplicity in argument, and do not always mean "every Wiccan" or "every Christian" or "every Atheist"

Unless you'd prefer that we write "some wiccans" or "some christians" as oppose to "they"

And why not?

Originally posted by Storm
And why not?

No reason, I'm just saying...it's easier to say "they"

Originally posted by Storm
The notorious "they". I wonder who comprises that group. If your intention is to target the wiccans, then you have to specify so in your post.

Well the thread is called Wiccanism as a religon

Originally posted by Storm

Even then, it would still be a false generalisation. In the light of talking about pagans and paganism as a whole, I interpret "they" as every single pagan.

Well yeah you could use paganism to refer to all polythiests, but a more accurate term for Norse pagans is heathens. Pagan is a latin word, The vikings were not Romans.

Well to tell you the truth I have never met a wiccan face to face. I have only read books written by them and spoke to them on forums and chatrooms. At any rate I probably know more about them than you do, but dont get me wrong I dont think they are scum bags or anything like that....I just find them slightly irritating.

In fact I have more to fear from heathens beacuse some of them are closet neo-nazis! 😱

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well the thread is called Wiccanism as a religon

Well yeah you could use paganism to refer to all polythiests, but a more accurate term for Norse pagans is heathens. Pagan is a latin word, The vikings were not Romans.

Well to tell you the truth I have never met a wiccan face to face. I have only read books written by them and spoke to them on forums and chatrooms. At any rate I probably know more about them than you do, but dont get me wrong I dont think they are scum bags or anything like that....I just find them slightly irritating.

In fact I have more to fear from heathens beacuse some of them are closet neo-nazis! 😱

isnt a heathen just anyone whos religion is different from yours?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well the thread is called Wiccanism as a religon

You are just talking past me.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well to tell you the truth I have never met a wiccan face to face. I have only read books written by them and spoke to them on forums and chatrooms. At any rate I probably know more about them than you do, but dont get me wrong I dont think they are scum bags or anything like that....I just find them slightly irritating.

Would you just stop assuming things about my position.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
isnt a heathen just anyone whos religion is different from yours?

Among non pagans, it means anyone who is non Christian. But pagans use the term in particular to refer to those who follow a Norse or Germanic path.

Originally posted by Storm
Among non pagans, it means anyone who is non Christian. But pagans use the term in particular to refer to those who follow a Norse or Germanic path.

huh kind of an odd thing to do

thx for the info though

Originally posted by Storm
You are just talking past me.

Ok.

Originally posted by Storm

Would you just stop assuming things about my position.

Ok

Originally posted by Storm

Among non pagans, it means anyone who is non Christian.

True the same could be said for the word heathen.

Originally posted by Storm

But pagans use the term in particular to refer to those who follow a Norse or Germanic path.

Noo this is were your wrong. You could call a Norse pagan a pagan, its not incorrect, but Norse pagans dont call themselves pagan they call themselves heathen. Ive been to several forums they use the word heathen.

Originally it was used to describe somebody who was not Christian like the word pagan, but at the same time Norse people were know to live on "heaths". Hence living on a heath was associated with not believing in Christanity, there were heathens.

At the same time Norse pagans call themselves heathen to seperate themselves from wiccans evnthough they could call themslves pagan.

Originally posted by Alfheim

True the same could be said for the word heathen.

the question was about the word heathen (what did you think Storm was talking about?)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
the question was about the word heathen (what did you think Storm was talking about?)

ooops my bad I didnt read the posts properly. 😮 😮 😮
*shoot himself in the head*