Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
So what do you see this out of a one to ten scale for Matt?
Honestly? Considering past portrayal's of Daredevil's quickness/ability and historical characterizations of Wolverine's martial arts skill (above average, that's it)?
If a real fight, since Daredevil only really uses is Billy Club, gotta give the advantage to Wolverine. What will he use to take him down? Nerve attacks maybe? Can't break anything really. Wolverine probably 7-8/10.
H2h? DD 7/10.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
People said that wolverine was a fighting genius legendary.I know he's at least a samurai, ninja, and assassin, I just don't really see him using it.
A fighting genius who was consistently stalemated by Sabertooth (now DO remember that someone said the "old" Sabertooth in Uncanny #212 did NOT have "his stats" -- that makes it that much worse, right?), Archangel, got touched up badly by Silver Samurai, smacked around by Spidey, caught offguard by Marrow, sliced up by Deathstrike? That's why I say BULL.
Again, Wolverine was historically written as a fighter with GOOD martial arts skills who survived tons of punishment because of his healing factor.
If he's a fighting genius what does that make Elektra?
Now after his origin was retold (well...revealed, actually), all of a sudden he's defeating Shang Chi and sneaking up on Gamora, right? Heh.
And I'll ask you YOUR opinion. If YOU are a guest writer with general knowledge of a character, do you use the general portrayals of a character or the extreme portrayals (high or low)? For example, I don't think Rucka wrote Wolverine/Uncanny before, so when he wrote Elektra vs Wolverine, she stomped him (i.e. Wolverine as regularly written (historically) would get stomped by Elektra).
I think that DD is a "smarter" fighter also; he has WAY less margin for error. He CAN'T afford to get sliced through the neck so he's WAY less reckless. Wolverine can survive that, so will oftentime just wade into a battle to get at someone.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Anyone ever seen Daredevil get tired in a fight? DD is really underestimated here. Plus hes a smarter fighter than Wolvies as well.
Actually I haven't seen many characters ever get tired in a fight...
But I'm aware of the fact that Wolverine never does get fatigued and can maintain 100% efficiency, literally capable of sprinting indefinitely.
If it wasn't for the healing factor I'd say that DD would knock him unconcious with well placed blows at critical moments like in between heartbeats but that doesn't seem likely considering the fact that he isn't knocked out by blows recieved from powerhouses.
DD might not be effected by fatigue quickly but he can't fight with the equivalant of an indefinite sprint. Wolverine is an extremely skilled h2h fighter so it's not like he'd be easy to beat with no claws and no healing factor if his opponent was on the same level as far as strength goes.
There was a time when I would have said that DD would have a good chance......but I've learned more about Wolverine than I did before. Its the healing factor, claws, AND skills that make this a mismatch to me.
Originally posted by shaolin9976
I just checked the Marvel Encyclopedia and Daredevil's highest rank is his fighting skill which is 5 of 7...the rest is 2's and 1. Meanwhile, Wolverine is 7 out 7 in fighting skill and is 4 out of 7 in both durability and strenght...I say no contest!
Read comic books, not the Marvel Encyclopedia. That's like...comic battle debating 101.