Justice League (Past & Present) vs. Avengers (Past & Present)

What the heck are talking about? Firestar CANNOT travel at lightspeed. Her powers are very limited. Her powers harm herself, she can only use to an extent. She's the human torch lite version.

Zattana would be toasted by Firestar or fried by Living Lightning before she could say, "xob eht ni kcaj..."

And for god's sake, put all your thoughts into ONE post. It's getting difficult to respond to you. Thank you.

http://www.avengersforever.org/characters/Characters.asp
Human torch is nowhere near Firestar's level. She could easily destroy the earth.

Or Dr. Fate can transport Firestar and Living Lightning to another dimension.

Her profile disproves everything you've said about her.

Not before he's melted to a goo or fried.

? What does it disprove?

Fate protects himself with a magical field. Firestar goes bye-bye. She's severely inexperienced compared to Fate. Or any other JLAer listed above.

That Firestar is nowhere as powerful as you said she was. Fly at lightspeed, more powerful than Torch, nothing in the profile says that. She never displayed that amount of power you described.

And her microwave powers are a hazard to her health. The moment her suit is compromised, she begins to limit her powers in fear for her health. And Coldcast controls the entire electromagnetic spectrum including microwaves. Firestar's done.

Where is this coming from? Is there anything about fate having a "magical field"? in is profile? Either way, Living Lightning would fry him before he could do anything. He's as fast as light. So is Wonder Man, and Wonder Man's way, way stronger than Flash.

Coldcast would fall to Moon Dragon's telepathy. He can control electromagnetic energy, not psychic energy. So disabling her TK shield is nixed.

Fate is like Dr. Strange. Magic bolts, magic shields, magic canaries. Magic defies the laws of physics. Living Lightening vs. DC's Sorcer Supreme? I don't think so. Fate wins.

Coldcast can absorb psionic energies. I've said this before. He's also immune to telepathy.

ok i read it and i´m still not convinced.

i never said MM was a better telepath then moondragoon, but it was already explained that it his more difficul to use telepathy in hsapeshifters,and impossible when someone is intangible. and i do believe that MM could protect himself mentaly, time enough to kill her, she can only lift 400 pounds and she doesn´t fly.

however i´m tired and maybe she can do much more then i think, i have to check it out later.

Norrin, those are professor X's limitations.

Coldcast's profile says nothing of psionic energy. Living Lightning would electrocute Fate before he could blink, much less cast a spell. DC's Sorcerer Supreme? Hardly. I think you are overpowering him.

Coldcast is like Bishop from the X-Men. He's a sponge. Any and all energies he is capable of absorbing. Coldcast absorbed Manchester's psionic energies when he performed a mutiny against him. He felt that the Black's methods were wrong. Black could not read his mind as he could the rest of the Elite because Coldcast was immune to telepathy.

You're severly underestimating Dr. Fate. Dr. Fate has eons of experience and magical abilities. A college sophmore with lightening attacks isn't going to catch him by surprise. Dr. Fate IS Doctor Strange. Who do think Strange was modelled after?

no actually in the link you gave it is stated that she can´t lift more then 400 pounds, and can´t fly

Accoring to his profile, "Coldcast can apparently control matter at the atomic level. By rendering electrons inert, he can essentially stop time. This can also be used to effect an electromagnetic pulse, to cripple electronic devices. He is sensitive to the Earth's electromagnetic field."

It says nothing about energy absorption, or telepathy.

It would be a telepathic battle Norrin. She has the Shiar Mind Gem and The Dragon of the Moon's essence. MM would be toast.