Darth Maul VS Wolverine

Started by Metalmanx12 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
How can you even start to believe that a light sabre can cut through adamantium? Take the star wars bedsheets of your bed and open your eyes budy, if it can't cut threw cortosis alloy and is repelled by Vader/Durge's armor it isn't cutting threw adamantium, heck it isn't even scratching it.

And please tell me why you think Jedi are faster then Wolverine? Because they block lassers that move 10 times slower then any bullet? Good for them I guess.

Did it ever occur to you that those lasers move as fast as lasers actually do and that they repel them back because they've got enhanced speed, enhanced reflexes, and precog? Hm, guess it didn't.

Yea, you're right. The lightsabers can't cut through those few exceptions in the STAR WARS UNIVERSE. Who knows what would happen if a Star Wars lightsaber were to try and cut adamantium. It could work, it might not work. This was the basis of my last post. WE DON'T KNOW. You can't assume things since the two universes have never met.

I'm basing my opinion on a observation.

In Episode I when Qui-gon and Obi were trap inside the ship. Qui-gon pulls out his lightsaber and tries to cut through a metal door. It takes him quite a few minutes for the blade to penetrate the other side of the slide door.

How in the mightest reason of a universe could a lightsaber be able to cut through Adamantium in a split second?

Given that observation I don't see how the crystals (which helps power up the blade of a lightsaber) of a Sith be any more powerful than the crystals of a Jedi?

Not even by a long shot. Darth Maul can't cut Adamantium with a single slash.

Originally posted by WindDancer
I'm basing my opinion on a observation.

In Episode I when Qui-gon and Obi were trap inside the ship. Qui-gon pulls out his lightsaber and tries to cut through a metal door. It takes him quite a few minutes for the blade to penetrate the other side of the slide door.

How in the mightest reason of a universe could a lightsaber be able to cut through Adamantium in a split second?

Given that observation I don't see how the crystals (which helps power up the blade of a lightsaber) of a Sith be any more powerful than the crystals of a Jedi?

Not even by a long shot. Darth Maul can't cut Adamantium with a single slash.

I think they can't cut through adamantuim that quickly. Eventually they will but it might tak days or months or years.

This match depends on both opponents their skills and their powers instead of their weapons.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Did it ever occur to you that those lasers move as fast as lasers actually do and that they repel them back because they've got enhanced speed, enhanced reflexes, and precog? Hm, guess it didn't.

*sigh*

When you can see C3PO moving on the screen the same time as the lasers are being fired you can get a pretty good idea of the relitive speed of those blasters... unless you think C3PO's clunky shuffle breaks the sound barrier those lassers aren't near as fast as a bullet.

If that's how you want to look at it, fine. If I was making a movie with laser beams and such, I'd want to show them off on screen, too, make them visible so people can see what kind of firepower the characters wielded.

Remember during the Episode IV, when the X-Wings are attacking the Death Star? Do you remember how fast those lasers were? They were just flashes on the screen, which is how a laser works. They can speed it up during space scenes, because everything is moving much faster. But the laser is slowed down so the audience can witness the futuristic battle scenes instead of being bombarded with epileptic flashes.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
If that's how you want to look at it, fine. If I was making a movie with laser beams and such, I'd want to show them off on screen, too, make them visible so people can see what kind of firepower the characters wielded.

Remember during the Episode IV, when the X-Wings are attacking the Death Star? Do you remember how fast those lasers were? They were just flashes on the screen, which is how a laser works. They can speed it up during space scenes, because everything is moving much faster. But the laser is slowed down so the audience can witness the futuristic battle scenes instead of being bombarded with epileptic flashes.

Who knows, maybe the X-Wings have better weaponry?

...Both great fighters blah blah blah both street smarts blah blah blah both tough and strong willed blah blah blah...

BUT !

Wolverine IS tougher, more experienced and has much more impressive feats (some people even whisper he can hold his own for a short amount of time against Spider-Man !!), so I give it to Logan.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
How can you even start to believe that a light sabre can cut through adamantium? Take the star wars bedsheets of your bed and open your eyes budy, if it can't cut threw cortosis alloy and is repelled by Vader/Durge's armor it isn't cutting threw adamantium, heck it isn't even scratching it.

You know... Cortosis alloy is supposed to be fairly fragile. The fact that it resists lightsabers is a special property of the metal. Comparing the two's defense against lightsabers based on durability would just be stupid.

After Vader got armored up, he was still slated to help wipe out the jedi so it'd make sense that his armor would be built with some resistance to sabers in mind considering it kept him alive.

I can't find anything on Durge's armor but if he was said to of killed hundreds of jedi he'd have to be packin'.

This is silly. Wouldn't Darth Maul just force-choke Logan until he died?

He can try. Don't know if it will work. I doubt it.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
You know... Cortosis alloy is supposed to be fairly fragile. The fact that it resists lightsabers is a special property of the metal. Comparing the two's defense against lightsabers based on durability would just be stupid.

After Vader got armored up, he was still slated to help wipe out the jedi so it'd make sense that his armor would be built with some resistance to sabers in mind considering it kept him alive.

I can't find anything on Durge's armor but if he was said to of killed hundreds of jedi he'd have to be packin'.

I don't recall them ever saying anything about the Cortosis alloy only being able to repell a lightsaber because of a special property of the metal anywhere in the comics...

Darth Maul wins with relative ease- his telekenetic abilities playing a major role in it.

Originally posted by who?-kid
He can try. Don't know if it will work. I doubt it.

Why wouldn't cutting off his oxygen work?

Maul, incidentally, wasn't even at the level of a Jedi Master. The reason he killed Qui-Gon was because the latter was growing old and feeble, wheras Maul "was the perfect balance between youth and skill, never to be any better." The point was, his total fighting experience and his skill are hardly what Wolverine could accumulate in the more-than-a-lifetime he's had training.

Maul also rarely uses the force while fighting. He's not at that level of skill where he can attack with his lightsaber AND hurl objects. He never learned the force choke either, that's strictly for Master-level Sith only. If he wanted to use telekenesis against Wolverine directly, he'd have to struggle with Wolverine's willpower (this is why you see Jedi use force-push all the time against Droids, who have no will, but rarely against living targets.)

And no lightsaber is going to cut through adamantium. The metal has held under disentegrating rays that would have annihilated any other matter before (like in Days of Future Past). It even survived hovering above the sun in New X-Men. Lightsabers have already been taken down somewhat in their own universe (with the introduction of things like Cortosis Alloy, Mandalorian armor, etc.) but nothing in Marvel has ever been able to destroy adamantium save molecular rearrangement.

It'd be a cool fight to see, but eventually Maul would get exhausted, slow down, and get torn a new one by the irate Canadian.

I remember Anaking force choking people, even though he had had no Sith training at all.

Originally posted by Piedmon

Maul also rarely uses the force while fighting. He's not at that level of skill where he can attack with his lightsaber AND hurl objects.

Wrong. He does it in the first movie. He opens doors with it, and throws Obi Wan with it...both during a lightsaber combat.
Originally posted by Piedmon
He never learned the force choke either, that's strictly for Master-level Sith only.

Wrong again. It's an aspect of telekinesis. Luke did it in RotJ, and he was neither a Sith nor a Master, and technically, not even a Jedi yet.

Originally posted by Piedmon
If he wanted to use telekenesis against Wolverine directly, he'd have to struggle with Wolverine's willpower (this is why you see Jedi use force-push all the time against Droids, who have no will, but rarely against living targets.)

Jedi use Force push against droids because they don't want to abuse the Force by harming living things using it directly. That is canan Lucasbooks, so don't even try to dispute it.

And as far as Wolverine's willpower, I don't think that's an issue. He's not a Jedi, he's not telekinetic, he has no resistance to such things. I would say that the difference between Maul's abilities and Wolverine's in this arena is even larger than the difference between Dooku and Obi Wan in Episode 3, and surely you know how that Force-choke worked out...with Obi-Wan unconscious and thrown up against a wall.

Maul would own him.

Originally posted by who?-kid
...Both great fighters blah blah blah both street smarts blah blah blah both tough and strong willed blah blah blah...

BUT !

Wolverine IS tougher, more experienced and has much more impressive feats (some people even whisper he can hold his own for a short amount of time against Spider-Man !!), so I give it to Logan.


dude he would beat and has beaten spdierman

Originally posted by wolverine8888
dude he would beat and has beaten spdierman

Not that I recall... 🙄

Originally posted by Melnorme
Not that I recall... 🙄

ya spiderman passed out of his own doing lol

Originally posted by wolverine8888
ya spiderman passed out of his own doing lol

I blame Iron Man. That guy's got a grip like a vice. 😛

Anyway, Darth Maul kills Wolverine...end of story.