In Superman Y2K issue 1, you can see Lex training with Hope and Mercy and actually beating both of the Amazons at the same time, until his assistant, who he's been having a conversation with the entire time while fighting says the name Superman. His concentration breaks and they eventually take him down.
In Superman Up Up and Away, Superman flies through the kryptonite laced Kryptonian warship, leaving him powerless for a subsequent fisticuffs duel against Lex Luthor following, and Clark takes care of him.
There's a ton of examples of Clark being powerless and being just fine.
Originally posted by Estacado
Clark is like 250-260 while Parker is like 180.
Do the math.
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Originally posted by SamZEDBoth of those men are heavyweights, though. But Choi just sucks is all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXmbO9Oyzb0&feature=youtube_gdata_player#t=02m00s😎
Typically fighters DROP weight class to fight a class below so they'll be the bigger stronger man at fight time. e.g; Forrest Griffin dropping to LHW and for a time, being the champion. Randy Couture, dropping from heavyweight and being two time LHW champion. Anderson Silva drops from 215 to be the biggest middleweight in the division at 185. Even GSP drops from around 190 to fight at 170, because he's probably the biggest strongest man in the division at that class.
Size makes a giant difference.
Originally posted by JuntaiThat was a joke post. Parm makes a good point. RL logic doesnt apply in comics. At least not in this particular instance. Cant think of many comic book fights where size or weight played a bigger role than skills or stats.
Both of those men are heavyweights, though. But Choi just sucks is all.Typically fighters DROP weight class to fight a class below so they'll be the bigger stronger man at fight time. e.g; Forrest Griffin dropping to LHW and for a time, being the champion. Randy Couture, dropping from heavyweight and being two time LHW champion. Anderson Silva drops from 215 to be the biggest middleweight in the division at 185. Even GSP drops from around 190 to fight at 170, because he's probably the biggest strongest man in the division at that class.
Size makes a giant difference.
Hmm... Clark's skills......
Captain America style fighting (OK, not saying he's the same level...but he's no fatty slouch):
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/With%20out%20powers/sm-WEEDINGNOPOWERS.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/Starmanv01_014Imbie10.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/Supermanvol2153-17PREASSUREPOINTS.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/Supermanv2163SUPERSPEEDPRESSUREPOINTVSTEMPTEST.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/Supermanv2159PREASSUREPOINTSVSMAXIMA.jpg
Torgasm Rao!
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/AOS581TRAO.jpg
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Captain America style fighting (OK, not saying he's the same level...but he's no fatty slouch):
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Spider-Man has a trash lid feat, too. A ricocheting one.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hmm... Clark's skills......Captain America style fighting (OK, not saying he's the same level...but he's no fatty slouch):
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/With%20out%20powers/sm-WEEDINGNOPOWERS.jpghttp://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/Starmanv01_014Imbie10.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/Supermanvol2153-17PREASSUREPOINTS.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/Supermanv2163SUPERSPEEDPRESSUREPOINTVSTEMPTEST.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/Supermanv2159PREASSUREPOINTSVSMAXIMA.jpgTorgasm Rao!
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Fighting%20experience/AOS581TRAO.jpg
Here's Spidey's skills.
Powerless.
http://i072.radikal.ru/0901/33/fdc510de1f1f.jpg
Training with Shang.
http://s980.beta.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media/skilltraininglesson2sha.jpg.html#/user/ankur2292/media/skilltraininglesson2sha.jpg.html?&_suid=1355679872452013400797291653593
Later. Fights Shang using MA skills he aquired. (No spider sense)
http://s980.beta.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media/asm-31-32.jpg.html#/user/ankur2292/media/asm-31-32.jpg.html?&_suid=135567987411808751218623135555
vs new Madame Web (Julia). She can see into the future so knows every move he's going to make still cant connect once. (again no spider sense)
http://s980.beta.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media/TASM666023-024.jpg.html#/user/ankur2292/media/TASM666023-024.jpg.html?&_suid=1355679876113022710609054178993
Pressure point speedblitz of a team of supervillains who all have spider powers.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/prv9725pg6.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/prv9725pg8.jpg/
Vs Spider-Woman (although mindcontrolled)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/spiderwoman.jpg/
vs Jackal's man-spiders
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/201/kf1u.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/kf2m.jpg/
While blinded vs upgraded Kain.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9396209/asm_671_024.jpg.html
Superman got training from batman to be a street level hero when he lost his powers
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/supermanbatmanannual02c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/supermanbatmanannual02d.jpg
Has peter ever survived re-entry while completely powerless? Because superman survived the heat of re-entry just fine when earth-man threw him from above atmosphere. I don't have the full sequence but here he is shown falling down from the space and being fine
Oh also forgot. The killing stroke.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/tasm666025.jpg/
Pete at this point is more skilled than a number of streeet level heroes.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Has peter ever survived re-entry while completely powerless? Because superman survived the heat of re-entry just fine when earth-man threw him from above atmosphere. I don't have the full sequence but here he is shown falling down from the space and being fine
Originally posted by SamZED
Oh also forgot. The killing stroke.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/tasm666025.jpg/
Pete at this point is more skilled than a number of streeet level heroes.
If he had human stats shouldnt this be concidered PIS? Dont see how we can use this feat in a skill vs discussion tbh.
Originally posted by Scoobless
bizarre as it may seem, both spiderman and superman have lost their powers and have decided to enter a cage fighting contest to see if what each of their wives say is true, that they'd be complete pansies if not for their powers, as fate would have it they are the only two to enter the contest this day and the bell is about to ring*ding*
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i'm going for petey boy as the drop in power level will be less of a shock than for clark....... who'll probably break his wrist if he hit's someone
