Count Dooku versus Mace Windu

Started by EyeOfApocalypse7 pages

Darth_Nefarus,

I agree with Arsenal's comment about you writing some Star Wars comics. Perhaps you've heard of the Infinites comics, they have to do with alternation versions of the Original Trilogy, none have been made for the Prequel Trilogy yet; but I am sure that after the release of Return Of The Sith they will be in the works. You should consider contacting LucasBooks and perhaps seeing if you could write an Infinities Comic Trilogy for Attacks Of The Clones.

As for the topic at hand, I vote Mace Windu. Mace is considered Yoda's equal, his form of Lightsaber combat (known as Vapaad or Vaapad if I remember correctly) is the closest to the Dark Side that is used by the Jedi Knights. Mace's style is just as aggressive as Dooku's, I believe he could take Dooku easily.

Mace: "Yo Count, yo boot's untied mother*censor*"

[Dooku looks down to his boot]

[Mace hacks off Dooku's head]

Mace: "You stupid *censor*, you fell for the dumbest *censor* trick in the god *censor* book of Jedi tricks!"

Sorry...

Mace would own Dooku

In the 'Power of the Jedi Source book' it states that only two people have ever beaten Mace Windu in combat. 1.) Yoda 2.) Dooku. However, it the Starwars Roleplaying Game Rulebook, it also states that Mace Windu is considered to be Yoda's equal in the Council so ...

Equal on the council has nothing to do with lightsaber combat.
Truth be told, once Dooku joined the darkside, he and Mace are forever equalled. The raw power of the darkside compensates Dooku's age, and Mace's youth provides the force to easily flow through him.

Oh, also look at their forms. Dooku is a stylish, poised defensive master of the darkside, while Windu is an in your face light sider.
EQUAL

I'd go with Mace on this one.

I voted for Mace Windu (I may have spelled that wrong... sue me) simply because of his impressive skills with Form VII. Masters of Form VII must learn and excel in other forms of combat, mostly those others except for perhaps II. And this provides the younger Jedi with an amazing advantage because he has not given too much energy to any one style, while still being a master in at least one.

Count Dooku, being the old fashioned aristocrat he is, probably spent all his bets on mastering Form II, which is still a considerable achievement. For straight dueling he may be ahead... but Form VII is anything but straight combat. It's based on unpredictability and raw emotion. Given the proper situation, Mace could easily defeat Dooku if he played his cards right.

That's a good rationalization.
Go Mace.

Originally posted by jedimaster2000
Mace would own Dooku

Actually, forget I ever said that.

Mace and Dooku would be one of the best duels ever. Like most of the other people have said, Mace will probably get the edge in pure skills with a lightsaber, but Dooku's Dark Side powers will compensate for that tiny deficit. Lucas definitely should have made Mace take on Dooku in AOTC instead of Yoda. It would have made much more sense because ever since Mace confronted Dooku on the balcony, it looked more like Mace, rather that Yoda, was going after Dooku.

I think Mace will wind up on top after a LONG, HARD-FOUGHT, TOE-TO-TOE nail-biter.

Dooku has been trained by Sidious, and Yoda.....Both of which have beaten Mace Windu. So how do you get Mace Windu would win?

I guess it's how much you chalk up training. Maul was trained by Sidious, who could probably slaughter Dooku and Mace at the same time. And yet he died at the hands of a padawan.

Don't assume that training means all the proper lessons have been drawn. And certainly, no real master ever allows his pupil to perfect and improve on the knowledge so that the master ceases to be the master. That would be foolish.

But one thing to consider is that Mace is self-taught and fights like no one else in the Order. His form reaches intensity of almost Sith-like proporations, and dark side or no, I doubt Dooku could have defeated Windu. There is no evidence suggesting otherwise, to be sure.

ok Maul is my favorite SW character, and i'll defend him to the end, but he would not have the closest chance of beating Windu and Dooku at the same time.....Maybe his raw lightsaber skills are better, but there's no way, you're talking crazy talk, lol

here's proof.....obi wan beats anakin.....anakin beats mace windu.......dooku beat anakin and obi wan. tah-dah

I think you read that too fast. I said that Sidious could probably defeat Mace and Dooku at the same time.

Also, no one seems to keep in mind that since Dooku and Yoda showed Mace the lingering taste of defeat, -time- has passed. in other words, this prodigy has had a chance to reevaluate his style and perfect it moreso. He could easily reinvent himself.

oh oh.....yea sidious would destroy them both, your right. I like Mace Windu better than i like count dooku, so i wouldnt say he'd lose, if i didnt think he would. Its just common sense though. idk, maybe they tie.....Mace does have a chane though

chance**

If Mace is nearly able to best Sidious in combat, how can Dooku even compare?

only way dooku could beat mace is if mace was dead

the fight could go either way, dooku most likely winning. since it says in the sw databank that dooku has beaten mace in combat

True, and he's only gotten more powerful due to the darkside.
However, Mace nearly kills Sidious(unless Sidious lets him win) so it's possible Mace could win.