Originally posted by Sorgo
I could never leave.I must defend these Forums against the never ending Flood of newbs.
Tis me destiny.
This weeks KMC features:
Episode I: The newb menace
Episode II: Attack of the socks
Episode III: Revenge of the Sorgo
Episode IV: A new hope for the SW versus forum
Episode V: The newb empire strikes back
Episode VI: The Return of the NJO
*Just began reading this thread and saw Sorgo's post*
Originally posted by Sorgo
[B]Created his own lightsaber formWith help. Don't forget that! Plus, he built it on another form. Don't forget that!
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Originally posted by Sorgo
[B]Defeated SidiousAnd got shocked out of a window.
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Originally posted by Borbarad
This weeks KMC features:
Episode I: The newb menace
Episode II: Attack of the socks
Episode III: Revenge of the Sorgo
Episode IV: A new hope for the SW versus forum
Episode V: The newb empire strikes back
Episode VI: The Return of the NJO
I think someone's trying to make quotes for my profile.
*Steals this one*
Dooku could beat Mace Windu.
Just because Mace created his own form (with help) doesn't mean anything. Dooku perfected one of the most difficult forms of all that requires much focus and incase you haven't realized, Jedis hardly use the force in duels but the sith always have.
Maul: Force pushed Obi into the hole
Dooku: Force lighting
Dooku: Force chocked Obi and then threw him across the room and even used force push
Sidious: Lighting
Sidious: Lighting and throwing giant pods
Vader: Throwin debris at Luke
Vader: Lightsaber Throw
Originally posted by ESB- 1138
Dooku could beat Mace Windu.
Just because Mace created his own form (with help) doesn't mean anything. Dooku perfected one of the most difficult forms of all that requires much focus and incase you haven't realized, Jedis hardly use the force in duels but the sith always have.
Mace had to have knowledge of both Sjem So and Makashi to learn Juyo. After mastering Juyo he created Vapaad. Mace is a fair bit higher than Dooku in lightsaber mastery.
Originally posted by ESB- 1138
Maul: Force pushed Obi into the hole
Dooku: Force lighting
Dooku: Force chocked Obi and then threw him across the room and even used force push
Sidious: Lighting
Sidious: Lighting and throwing giant pods
Vader: Throwin debris at Luke
Vader: Lightsaber Throw
Not true that only Sith use the force in fights.
Obi-wan: Call lightsaber to him
Qui-gon: Force pushing droids
Yoda: Block lightning
Obi-wan: Block lightning
Kit: Force push droids
Luke: Choke Gamorreans
Yoda: Force Push Sidious
Yoda: Throw Guards against the wall
Yoda: Throwing a Pod back at Sidious
Obi-wan: Force Pushing Anakin/Vader
Mace: Crushing GG's lungs
Obi-wan: Force Push GG
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Not true that only Sith use the force in fights.
Obi-wan: Call lightsaber to him
Qui-gon: Force pushing droids
Yoda: Block lightning
Obi-wan: Block lightning
Kit: Force push droids
Luke: Choke Gamorreans
Yoda: Force Push Sidious
Yoda: Throw Guards against the wall
Yoda: Throwing a Pod back at Sidious
Obi-wan: Force Pushing Anakin/Vader
Mace: Crushing GG's lungs
Obi-wan: Force Push GG
Almost every single Jedi: Propelling themselves higher than a normal jump (Force Jump)
Almost every single Jedi: Using the Force to aid their reflexes
Yoda: Aiding his strength (he needs his cane otherwise)
*Just began reading this thread and saw Sorgo's post*
But Dooku never created one, EVER!
Oh, I apologized.... He completely mastered an Ancient Dueling Form, which could have been possibly used by some KOTOR Era characters or Sith Lords before that.
Which probably would've happened to anyone who just had their dominant hand chopped off by someone they trusted and was standing over Sidious next to an open window miles above the surface of Coruscant.
Mace trusted Anakin? GO AWAY! NOW!
Mace had to have knowledge of both Sjem So and Makashi to learn Juyo. After mastering Juyo he created Vapaad. Mace is a fair bit higher than Dooku in lightsaber mastery.
I want proof that he had to have knowledge of that to make the Form he did. PERFECT proof. And even if he did, What makes you think he automatically masters Dooku? Because he made his own Form? Please! That's ridiculous! All Theory.
Originally posted by ESB- 1138
Jedi hardly ever use offensive force moves. Let me put it like that.
Did you read what I posted?
"Qui-gon: Force pushing droids
Kit: Force push droids
Yoda: Force Push Sidious
Yoda: Throw Guards against the wall
Yoda: Throwing a Pod back at Sidious
Obi-wan: Force Pushing Anakin/Vader
Mace: Crushing GG's lungs
Obi-wan: Force Push GG
Luke: Choke Gamorreans"
Originally posted by ESB- 1138
Jedi hardly ever use offensive force moves. Let me put it like that.
"The Jedi are Guardians of the Peace. Not soldiers."
- Mace Windu
The Jedi don't use their Force powers offensively unless they are in the most dire of situations. It's against their code, against the ideals for which they have fought 25,000 years to uphold. But as is visible in their duels, when the Jedi use their powers in such a manner, the effects are devastating. Kenobi hurled Grievous several dozen feet through the air with a single Force push, and it was that attack, (which smashed a wall), that caused the General to flee. When Yoda used his 'quick-draw' Push, he tossed Sidious across the room. When the Red Guards attempted to sieze him, he carelessly waved his hand, and knocked the Emperor's best senseless. In his greatest display of power, he caught Sidious' own lightning at point-blank range, and condensed into an energy-filled orb, something we've never seen in either EU or the movies before. The purple sphere literally exploded, hurling a fully grown man over the edge of a pod, from one side to the other. Need I say more?
dooku wins. hes done it before according to the official site. lucas said the dark side is stronger but is destined to always be at odds with itself becuase of the apprentice kills master thing and the quest for power. so dooku is more powerful now that hes sith than when he faught mace.
dooku is supposedly one of the greates duelers around, and gillard said the difference between a level 8 and a level 9 in saber skill is the dark side, meaning the dark side gives you an edge as long as you dont let it turn you into an arrogant power hungry madman like anakin. dooku always had alot more self control. so presumably dookus saber skill is at the same level or higher than when he was a jedi.
mace made his own style. or rather completed one that was already around. that doesnt really mean that much. i could create my own style, it would suck, but id still have created it. doesnt mean im an awesome swordsman. dooku perfected the saber to saber style of combat. meaning against an army of droids mace might have an advantage, but saber to saber dooku had the edge again. dooku fights with enough self control that it wouldnt be massive amounts of offencive darkside energy for maces style to counter. it would just be dooku using it to enhance his own abilities rather than him attacking mace directly witht he dark side like sidious. (all that is eu anyway so doesnt really count)
so in the end, dooku has every advantage over mace. hes older, but sidious is old, yoda is old, it doesnt mean that much. hes just had more time to perfect his force powers. he has all his jedi training, he has new sith powers, hes the master at saber to saber and hes beaten mace before. dooku wins. (man i hate mace)
Originally posted by Decay
ok, so its eu and does count. i think the vs forum is a bit of both seeing that there is no straight cannon vs forum. i dont mind arguing eu but at the end of the day cannons more important.
Wow. Go to google and search "star wars canon policy" and you should see the official canon policy when it comes to Star Wars. It's different than most other things. In anycase, your typing is lacking.