meh I've said what I had to say about the situation, and my desicion was made on what I thought was a fair and more or less accurate judgement of both characters (giving both their due respect), and while I have no hard evidence to support my opinion neither do you (you don't know for sure if a spear gun can whip wolvie's head clean off his shoulders, or if a predator's blades can cut through adamantium). Although it frustrates me that we've no NO evidence to support our claims I'll leave you with one more thing to think about.
How many times have we seen predators get wasted by ordinary people?...bunches. How many times have they been waisted by brooding aliens?...bunches more. How many times has wolverine been killed by either.......let me think...oh yeah zero. this should speak for itself and I hope you consider this in your desicion (whether you like it or not its the truth)
p.s. I still say predator vs. punisher= more interesting fight
He may not have been half dead but he was barely moving by the end of comic #20 plus electra got the drop on him, he was still recovering from wounds all over his body ( I just sprained my ankle and I can barely wrestle, but it's not even close to how good I can wrestle at full health so I can only imagine how hard it was for wolverine to even stand at that point healing factor or no he was still recovering from being a one eyed peice of hamburger meat.
Originally posted by Kontraz
well, i suggest reading the newer marvel knights wolverine comics, then. Wolverine is downed by elektra, and this is wolverine with abilities enhanced beyond those of his norm. think about this.... the pred doesn't have to cut through the adamantium, there are plenty of ways around it. Like plasma, that would simply burn everything around the bone. and the speargun would still rip wolvie's head clean off his shoulders with ease.
by the way wolverine was trying to get away from elektra because he didnt wanna kill her, so the fight doesnt really count since its not a battle, its an evac plan so he could go on with his mission in case you didnt bother reading the entire comic
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the way i see it is a pred would LOVE to fight wolverine hand to hand. I think they would make themselves literaly ill if they were to pick off such a great fighter with their supior weapons from afar, to a pred that would be a sin. Preds would be waiting in line to show how strong thye are to fight wolvie one on one and come away with his head. So just forget all the other weapons thye have at their disposle.
And wolverine vs a pred hand to hand combat?
You all want referances why don't you go to the MOVIES pred 1 and 2
if arnold and glover can do it its insulting to think that wolverine can't.
And at that point i think they would give wolverine some high honors.
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Originally posted by moviejunkie23
the way i see it is a pred would LOVE to fight wolverine hand to hand. I think they would make themselves literaly ill if they were to pick off such a great fighter with their supior weapons from afar, to a pred that would be a sin. Preds would be waiting in line to show how strong thye are to fight wolvie one on one and come away with his head. So just forget all the other weapons thye have at their disposle.
And wolverine vs a pred hand to hand combat?
You all want referances why don't you go to the MOVIES pred 1 and 2
if arnold and glover can do it its insulting to think that wolverine can't.
And at that point i think they would give wolverine some high honors.
you should see the first xmen movie. if mystique can give wolvi a run for his money, its insulting to think that a pred can't kill him.
It would be a real struggle between the two. The Predator will have the advantage at first with its invisibility and laser weapon, but Wolverine will use his super-enhanced animal senses and he will find the Predator without sight and lay into it like there's no tomorrow. Wolverine will win. It would be an awesome match though. It would keep you guessing: Who is hunting who? throughout the whole comic.
I posted examples of Pred weapons breaking in this tread somewhere, (*hint*) that means they aren't on the same level as Adamantium.
The highest comic feat for the Preds is carrying the Bat-symbol, where as Wolverine has thrown, with one hand, down an alley, a dumpster (it went into the air) while dodging gun fire. Comparing the two in speed is laughable, fighting skill and battle tactics... even more so.
first off, i wouldnt really judge wolvies skill by his fight with mystique, mystique is nowhere near as powerful in the comics as she was shown in the movie, secondly the predater arent really too much of a match for wolverine, and unlike refined martial artists like electra{who beat wolvie by hitting his nerve endings and pressure points, predaters use pure strength}, anyway, wolverine is a great warrior and can probably keep his own against four predaters and since they just rely on lasers and brute strength, theyll only be able to damage wolverine's muscles or tendon or ligements{which he can easily heal}, in the end, wolverine wins. oh and yea, wolverine is actually greater at hiding and hunting{the tactics that predaters use} then predaters and he can find them without much difficulty even when they are using their stealth technology due to his heightened senses.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I posted examples of Pred weapons breaking in this tread somewhere, (*hint*) that means they aren't on the same level as Adamantium.The highest comic feat for the Preds is carrying the Bat-symbol, where as Wolverine has thrown, with one hand, down an alley, a dumpster (it went into the air) while dodging gun fire. Comparing the two in speed is laughable, fighting skill and battle tactics... even more so.
depends on the comic... cuz in some of them (particularly, some of the aliens vs predator ones) thier weapons and armor are indestructable. Alien acid, which can supposedly melt through anything (though it dissolves itself after awhile) cannot melt through it ( DO NOT BRING UP THAT CRAPPY MOVIE IN A COMIC FORUM!!!!) And a pred has been able to lift a marine tank and hurl it at some aliens.... speed... about the same... reflexes, about the same.... battle tactics... pred all the way... weapons.... pred all the way...
Wolverine is an excellent tactician, he just doesn't use any of his knowledge anymore since a bunch of crap writers got a hold of him and decided he should be in 9 out of 10 marvel comics produced today. Either way, while his senses are like those of a hound, wolvie's been snuck up on by less than a predator. Preds do grow up learning to stalk, Wolvie would never see him coming.
Wolvie is likely to have the fighting ability on a predator but that would not always be the case. Many predators develop fighting skills that easily rival that of the best warriors that ever existed.
Physically the fight is also pretty even, Wolvie is pretty much peak human which is about average predator.
What it comes down to is who gets the first hit, cause that's all it'll basically take. Stalking ability goes to the pred, and thus, so does the match.
MERCILOUS the Predators possess superhuman strenght probably between Class 1/5 tons.Wolverine in the strenght section is under them.
But anyway if the alien metal of their weapons isn't unbreakable as adamantium Logan would cut him in pieces when the fight comes to hand to hand, or get stabbed in the heart with the spear.This is a really close match.