Is there any projectile in modern weaponry that is slower then the speed of sound? No way in hell is a preds spear gun coming close to removing one of Logan's limbs. The Preds has nothing in his arsenal that can take down Wolverine.
Nataku8188, Weapon 15 hit Wolverine with 200,000 volts (a few hundred thousand was the comment, so it could have been more)... and he was done for a few panels. The Preds plasma caster will do little more then irritate Wolverine... assuming he gets lucky enough to hit him with it.
exactly, mordu hit wolverine with some of the "hottest flames" in the MU and wolverine's skeleton cme through just fine, I don't see how a plasma shot is going to take out wolvie, lest pred hits him in the nuts.
Anyways, just because the preds get taken down by the heroes of the story doesn't make the fact that it happened irrelivent, that's no way to argue, if normal people can take down preds than wolverine should be able to do so with relative ease,,,,,unless as I've stated before, its a truley seasoned veteran, like the one handed blue guy in duel (one of my faves btw).
Why wouldn't a speargun take off one of Logan's limbs?
And how many amps was in that shock? Volts isn't the thing that kills you.
Edit: And would you agree that IF Wolverine was reduced to a skeleton, whether he regenerates or not, that would be counted as a loss? In fact, any crippling wound that knocks him out while he regenerates should be counted as a loss. Double in fact, Wolverine sounds like the ultimate prey.
90% of the laser type things Wolverine has been blasted with (man thats a lot of weapons!) out class the plasma caster and he rarely put down by any of them.
Hulk and other marvel bricks have tugged on Wolverines arms with out ripping them off... what the hell is a spear gun going to do?
EDIT: There is a Wolverine issue where he is in the bottom of a castle and there is a gas leak in the basement (where he happens to be) and the whole castle explodes and walks out of the burning rubble just fine and he was in the room where the explosion took place. How will a Pred reduce Wolverine to a skeleton... there chances of doing that are only slightly better then Wolverine doing the same to them.
it would be a good match but wolverine takes it either way.
the offiacial marvel handbook it does state logan can lift that much.
i belive that is a strength level of 3 or 4.
wolverines healing factor depends on who is writing the book at the time.
a slice with a samurai sword severly hurts him,yet in new x men cassandra nova blast all the flesh off his arm and it's back in three panels.
wolverine keeps getting tougher the older he gets.
How fouly misinformed you are. Wolverine is in peak HUMAN physical condition and with his adamantium skeleton can sustain no more than 1000 pounds. Class strenght 3 or 4, pssss! You must have bought your official marvel handbook in a third world country from the back of a van.
Wolverine's inconsisties in power don't make him more powerful. It took him a week to grow back an arm not to long ago when Morrison was writing it. Don't make assumptions because some fanboy writer got hold of Wolvie.
All this "predator's weaponry is not good enough" talk is completley wrong. Plasma doens't burn like a laser. Here's a little science talk for you, try to keep up. There are four phases of energy, solid, liquid, gas and plasma. In that order they range from weekest to strongest in terms of the amount of energy they have. Plasma is what the sun is made out of.
It is true that most modern projectiles created for killing travel faster than the speed of sound, but just how much faster is particularly important. A handgun round may travel at about 1000 ft per second, while a rifle round may travel well in excess of 3000. Is it not reasonable that a highly advanced race have a projectile that is considerably more powerful? I mean for goodness sake, a 30-06 rounds will penetrate an inch of steel at 2 or 300 yards.
okay, but it won't penetrate adamantium, Until ou find some proof has to what can actually consistantly penetrate adamantium you have to assume that the plasma cannon isn't capable of such a feat, esp. considering that logan was getting his arse melted away by the sun's heat and his skeleton was still fine, Like I said before, wolverine's been hit with just about every damn lazer and/or hell fire in the MU and even if his body hasn't survived his skeleton has.
Like I said I've seen to many "normal" people get hit with the cannon and survive, and too many of them kill a predator for me to really believe this fight is as one sided as you claim.
The fact that they are the heroes of the story is irrelevent, the same as whoever is writing wolverine at a given time, (I don't know if you noticed but most people who partake in the comic industry happen to be fans nowdays) So to say that we should disregaurd the fact that predators get killed by normal people just because they're the heroes of the story is ridiculous, it's like trying to convince people that any wolverine fight that wolverine wins in his own comic doesn't count cause he is the hero of the story, there's really no logic to that argumentative style.
regardless, a blind samurai duked it out with a pred and held his own, no reason why logan couldn't dispatch one himself, or 5 for that matter.
I never said it would pentrate admantium, and seriously think that there is no way that could happen myself. All I'm trying to convey is that Predatory weaponry is more than enough to destroy James' flesh that it could be considered a victory.
You have to accept that there are definitley some inconsistancey's there. When it's the hero of the story the Cannon merely causes a flesh wound but when it's the victim it goes straight threw them. This simply isn't so in the comics.
And I never said disreguard normal people killing predators. Just keep in mind that Arnie portrayed one of the best if not the best special ops guy in the world. You should take into account though that any person who beats a predator in comics or in the movies is usually a highly trained much experienced individual beating a young and brash predator (although obviously exceptions exist.)
And you seriously can't use that blind samurai arguement. That guy was written damn near on par with Dare Devil. He used his lack of sight as an advantage.
Sure i can, he has enhanced senses like wolvie except for sight so the arguement at least has relevance. and i agree with the inconsistancy but that's certainly something we has fans can't help.
In the comics there were streetgangs killing preds, and despite the fact that it's usually the best of the best that kill preds, what do you think wolverine is? He's basically everything arnie was plus more, he's had more training, more experience, and he has super powers. He'll win.
Well, the thing is that this thread never specified (at least to my knowledge) how the fight takes place. If you lock an average Pred in a Room with Logan, he'll win every time. If you put him in there with one of the very best predators, those who heavily outweigh him in experience (predators do live thousands of years) then more often than not the pred takes it. Note that put it at 51/49 in another post. But in the most likely of situations (Logan being Hunted by a Pred) by an average predator who values his life, Logan will be shot, and then finished up close, rather quicky too (he'll be harmed enough for it to be considered a victory.)
When are you wolverine fanboys going to realize, his powers are NEVER the same??? For the love of god, Marvel isn't going to let ANYTHING happen to their main character, they learned this when DC killed Superman and GL. They value their customers and when it comes down to it, money is the key. When was the last time Wolverine got his ass officialy kicked, packaged, and mailed to Charlie?