FF4 VS these 4 xmen i chose

Started by Draco6927 pages

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So now you're saying that Jean Grey is not the Phoenix Force? Of course she isn't. She's merely a compartment of a greater whole. She's A Phoenix but certainly not the Phoenix Force.

She's a Phoenix. Like you said.

Oh, and the FF4 would not stand a "CHANCE" in hell against Jean Grey as the White Crown Phoenix. For flip's sake she destroyed and renewed a universe on her own. She was holding a flippin galaxy in the palms of her hand. That's really reaching.

"So now you're saying that Jean Grey is not the Phoenix Force? Of course she isn't. She's merely a compartment of a greater whole. She's A Phoenix but certainly not the Phoenix Force. "

Yeah, Sentinel Boy claimed she IS the phoenix. She isn't THE phoenix. We agree.

"Oh, and the FF4 would not stand a "CHANCE" in hell against Jean Grey as the White Crown Phoenix. For flip's sake she destroyed and renewed a universe on her own. She was holding a flippin galaxy in the palms of her hand. That's really reaching."

*Browses past posts*

Nope....nnnnope...definately don't see me making any reference to the F4 fighting the White Crown Phoenix. You just wandered so far off topic it's not even funny. How the hell is White Crown Phoenix even relevant here?

-AC

Reed Richards wins.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"So now you're saying that Jean Grey is not the Phoenix Force? Of course she isn't. She's merely a compartment of a greater whole. She's A Phoenix but certainly not the Phoenix Force. "

Yeah, Sentinel Boy claimed she IS the phoenix. She isn't THE phoenix. We agree.

"Oh, and the FF4 would not stand a "CHANCE" in hell against Jean Grey as the White Crown Phoenix. For flip's sake she destroyed and renewed a universe on her own. She was holding a flippin galaxy in the palms of her hand. That's really reaching."

*Browses past posts*

Nope....nnnnope...definately don't see me making any reference to the F4 fighting the White Crown Phoenix. You just wandered so far off topic it's not even funny. How the hell is White Crown Phoenix even relevant here?

*shrugs* One of the others mentioned Jean Grey as Phoenix so....

-AC

The thread creator stated Jean, Phoenix was involved by Sentinel Boy right at the start. No one ever suggested she has those powers for this fight besides him.

-AC

we can't have herald johnny without phoenix jean, simple as that... both are current representations...

classic v classic (jean without phoenix)... f4 take the piss and the victory...

current xmen are capable... i'm undecided...

ive always maintained that this battle should be classic versus classic. even if you wanna throw in 2nd mutie iceman thats cool but to keep it interseting we should proably leave the cosmics out of it

Classics Vs Classics?

Is there any point in continuing the debate if that's the case?

-AC

i should have been more clear regualr non phoneix jean(especially since thats what the guy who created the thread said) and regular non herald johhny

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Classics Vs Classics?

Is there any point in continuing the debate if that's the case?

-AC

not really...

fantastic four... walkover...

Yes she is the Phoenix. No she was not born as the Phoenix, but her connection with the force has grown to such a degree that the Phoenix power is as natural to her as her telepathy. At this point and time, her "mutations" are: A. Telepathy B. Telekinesis and C.(her secondary mutation) To be the perfect host body for the Phoenix Force. Therefore, I'd say that at this point, Jean Grey without the Phoenix is like the FF without their powers. After all, the FF weren't born with their powers, were they.

Also, Jean's TK is so advanced and powerful, that there is no doubt that she could make an airtight bubble, although other telekinetics may not be able to do so, Jean is all-powerful in the world of telekinesis, she would be able to do it. (As for the refereces of imperfect shield-makers, you mentioned Unus, but his bubbles were airtight, Spiderman technically killed him once by not letting up on his attacks and Unus suffocated...)

Originally posted by Sentinel Boy
Yes she is the Phoenix. No she was not born as the Phoenix, but her connection with the force has grown to such a degree that the Phoenix power is as natural to her as her telepathy. At this point and time, her "mutations" are: A. Telepathy B. Telekinesis and C.(her secondary mutation) To be the perfect host body for the Phoenix Force. Therefore, I'd say that at this point, Jean Grey without the Phoenix is like the FF without their powers. After all, the FF weren't born with their powers, were they.

Of course the FF was born with their powers.

...i hope that was sarcasm.

No, it wasn't.

wtf? The FF weren't born with their powers. Unless everything I read about them was from a dream.

then you are wrong... ...they got their powers from being bombarded with cosmic rays...

The FF was born with their powers.

exactly

no the WEREN'T (use proper english)

Originally posted by Sentinel Boy
then you are wrong... ...they got their powers from being bombarded with cosmic rays...

Nothing here proves what I said wrong.