i always thought the basic items in batman's ulility belt is knock out gas and a breather for himself. wolverines healing factor cant keep up with the gas, he has to breath sometime. wolverine has done down for the count many times due to this. and it wasnt like the gas is formulated to knock out a herd of elephants, something crazy like that.
As for you gimps think wolverine is nothing without his healing factor. obvisiouly know nothing of his hand to hand or weapons training. 😛
but all in all batman maybe be in great shape but think the endurance factor be for wolverine. he just dont know how to stop.
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Ooookay. 👆
batman does not ahve the time to Ko wolverine with the items on him, hell im not even sure batman has the items on him he need to Ko wolverine.
Originally posted by capt it up
first batman has no prep time.
batman ahs no knowledge of wolverine or his abilties.
logan has every advantage short of intel.batman does not ahve the time to Ko wolverine with the items on him, hell im not even sure batman has the items on him he need to Ko wolverine.
1. Batman has had time against faster.
2. Batman always has the the right items on him.
3. Batman was pulling these WTF he should have never won that before Wolverine was ever a thought.
Some factors to consider:
Terrain:
I think the jungles of the savage land would lean towards Wolverine's advantage because of his enhanced senses. Then again, Batman would have night-vision to compensate for the enhanced senses if the battle took place in the evening. I'll take the safe road since there are more hours in the day with light than without and give the advantage to Wolverine.
Tactics:
Batman has the advantage here, but his ability to use stealth to get the drop on his opponents is nullified by Wolverine's enhanced senses. Wolverine also has some ninja-type training with stealth, so I give him the upper hand to get things started. Wolverine would have to defeat Batman with his first series of strikes or Batman would start using the terrain to his tactical advantage and put some maneuvering room between himself and Wolverine. I'm guessing Batman would survive the initial encounter. The longer this battle goes, the more it would favor Batman tactically and Wolverine physically so I say it's almost a wash with maybe a slight edge going to Batman's tactics.
Skills:
BOTH are legit bad-asses. I think their fighting skills are evenly matched enough to say one doesn't really have an advantage over the other. The problem Batman faces however, is that all of his moves designed for breaking bones to subdue his opponents are useless limiting some of his choices. Another advantage for Wolverine is that Batman has this thing against killing so he will work to subdue Wolverine while Wolverine won't try to kill Batman, but he won't try not to either. I'll give a slight advantage to Wolverine here.
Tools/Powers:
Okay here we go. Wolverine has bones that Batman not only can't break, but may even injure himself while attempting to strike (like a punch to Wolvie's face may break a couple of Batman's knuckles if Batman tries it without knowing he's punching unbreakable metal). Wolverine has Claws that are going to cut through anything Batman tries to block with or hide behind. Wolverine has an accelerated healing factor that also gives him higher resistance to toxins, including knock out gases that Batman may try to employ. He also has this berserker state that makes him highly resistant to succumbing to pain. This last I consider more of a weakness since he has no self-control and this would play significantly in to Batman's hands. Batman has a wonderful utility belt that has everything from throwing weapons to ropes for swinging and tying people up with to nerve gas to under-water breathing apparatuses. The gases Batman employs would not be a factor because of Wolverine's toxin resistance. Batman would be hard pressed to use the rope to tie up Wolvie because of the claws, unless he was tied in such a way so he could not reach the ropes with his claws to cut it (a bit of a stretch I think). I think Batman would have an advantage if he managed to get the fight in the water with his breathing apparatus (especially with Wolverine's heavy-ass bones slowing him down in the water), or an electromagnet being used to push Wolverine away instead of drawing him in closer. If nothing else, the magnet may be just strong enough to delay Wolverine or keep him stationary long enough for Batman to work some of that Bat-Magic he's famous for. Another slight advantage to Batman here.
The Winner:
This is a tough one... I think Wolverine looks better on paper but I have to give the advantage in this fight to Batman's tactical knowledge. Batman gets Wolverine in the water and a few minutes later emerges carrying an almost drowned Wolverine over his shoulder. GOD this was a hard one to pick. Sorry Wolvie.
p.s.:
This battle is about the overall characters involved in the fight. This is not a battle about what either of them did in the comics against this guy or that guy five or twenty years ago. Comics have so many writers, each with their own ideas about what certain characters can and can't do. Batman at one time beat a mind-controlled PRE-CRISES Superman by ROLLING WITH SUPERMAN'S PUNCHES AND KNOCKING THE WIND OUT OF SUPERMAN WITH A KICK TO HIS MIDSECTION, thereby stunning Superman long enough for Batman to administer the cure for Superman's ...uh... mind-controlledness. Wolverine beat Lobo in the comics. Spider-Man beat Superboy in the comics. Anything can happen in the comics depending on who is writing, so specific occurances in comics that are not repeated with any degree of regularity should not be used as the only factor (or even a major factor in my opinion) in determining a winner.
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
1. Batman has had time against faster.2. Batman always has the the right items on him.
3. Batman was pulling these WTF he should have never won that before Wolverine was ever a thought.
ur just assuming batman will have a item that can take out a guy he never foughten or met?
so u relay have no arguement?
Originally posted by capt it up
not when batman did not have prep. hell u see what happen when batman went toe to toe with slade with no prep? he got his ass kicked.ur just assuming batman will have a item that can take out a guy he never foughten or met?
so u relay have no arguement?
No....
Batman has the items to take out characters hes never meet.
He does this all the time.
Plus the items he does have are designed to take out characters more powerful then Wolverie.
Oh, and he beat Slade before.
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
No....Batman has the items to take out characters hes never meet.
He does this all the time.
Plus the items he does have are designed to take out characters more powerful then Wolverie.
Oh, and he beat Slade before.
dude ur arguement is weak one at best ur not even giving reason ur just saying batman will have the item to win.
what item in his standered equiptment could take wolverien out?
ya he took slade out with prep. also slade durability is not wolverines level of durability.
Originally posted by capt it up
character who have healing factor? and have wolverine other abilites?dude ur arguement is weak one at best ur not even giving reason ur just saying batman will have the item to win.
what item in his standered equiptment could take wolverien out?
ya he took slade out with prep. also slade durability is not wolverines level of durability.
And you're just saying otherwise.
Heres a list.
Superman
Supergirl
Doomsday clones
Do I really need to go on..........
Yes he has hurt Superman and Supergirl's senses with stuff well not having a K ring on.
Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
And you're just saying otherwise.Heres a list.
Superman
Supergirl
Doomsday clonesDo I really need to go on..........
Yes he has hurt Superman and Supergirl's senses with stuff well not having a K ring on.
ur assuming abtman has prep which he does not. with out prep batman standered equiptment is not enough to take down logan.
Originally posted by capt it up
he had prep for both superman and super girl and doomday.ur assuming abtman has prep which he does not. with out prep batman standered equiptment is not enough to take down logan.
You don't even know what he has in his standard equipment.
He has a ton of stuff that would take down Wolverine.
And no he didn't have prep for Doomsday.
Supergirl, he used a standard flashbang of his and messed up her vision.