Interesting fact - a recent University study comparing the language of the Koran and the language of the Bible revealed that the Bible has many more instances of violence and times of advocating violence and prejudice then the Koran.
How. About. That. The Islamic Holy Book is actually a lot more peaceful then the Christian Holy Book. I kind of like this fact.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Interesting fact - a recent University study comparing the language of the Koran and the language of the Bible revealed that the Bible has many more instances of violence and times of advocating violence and prejudice then the Koran.How. About. That. The Islamic Holy Book is actually a lot more peaceful then the Christian Holy Book. I kind of like this fact.
😉 Yeah but Jesus didn't say let's go kill a bunch of people in Meccah cuz they kicked me out.
I'm pretty sure you like this 'fact' because it just gives you another excuse to flip the bird in every Christian's face.
Originally posted by Alliance
When the Muslims were in control of Jeruselem during their golden age, they let all religions worship and live there. When the Christians took control during the crusades, they kicked everyone out except fo Christians.Jesus also thought that non-believers should be stoned.
Those were Christians screwing up, not the founder of the religion.
😂 😂 😂 Alliance that is going to be under my sig now.
"Jesus also thought that non-believers should be stoned."
He said, he who is without sin cast the first stone. Nobody came forward to pick up a stone did they?
In other words... we are all guilty of sin and do not deserve God's heaven, but because of his grace through his son, Christ Jesus, we can be saved.
Originally posted by Echuu
😉 Yeah but Jesus didn't say let's go kill a bunch of people in Meccah cuz they kicked me out.
No, Jesus didn't. But apparently God did say such things, if the Bible can be believed. More then that he actually acted on this on more then one occasion, once again if one takes the bible as, pardon the pun, Gospel.
But then I guess God doesn't count in arguments that cast poor light on religious institutions.
I'm pretty sure you like this 'fact' because it just gives you another excuse to flip the bird in every Christian's face.
No, I like the fact because it can serve to highlight the hypocrisy of some peoples argument. The whole "Islam is founded, and incurably linked to badness" when it reality the basis of it, its holy text, is less violent then the Christian one.
Perhaps the point I am getting at is to do with the people in the religions themselves...
Originally posted by Echuu
😂 😂 😂 Alliance that is going to be under my sig now.
"Jesus also thought that non-believers should be stoned."
Here are some other quotes for you to ponder over.
EXO 15:3 "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name"
MAT 10:34 "Think not that I [Jesus] am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."
LUKE 10:10-12 "But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say, "It shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city."Entire cities will be violently destroyed and the inhabitants "thrust down to hell" for not "receiving" Jesus and his disciples. Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city." (Yeah, Jesus was so accepting of hospitality, not surprising because his preganant mother was turned out from an inn)
LUKE 17:27 "They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all." (Jesus really had not problem with god just wiping out everybody on the planet except for Noah)
LUKE 19:27 "But those mine [Jesus's] enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
I'm sorry I could not find off hand which passage I was referring to, but it essential said: that whoever doubts him and tries to convince children he is not the savior, it would be better of if he were stoned.
I think that a big part of why they're misunderstood is the popular view of violence. I realize that any culture has it's extremist elements, but Islam's extremist elements are pretty close to being the majority. Something like 60% of Muslims support or "understand" the violence that the "minority" perpetrates. Compare that to Christians, or Jews, or any of the easter religions - The people who would support killing innocent people are such a minority that I don't think I've ever even heard of any stats on it. People like what's his face that blew up the oklahoma federal building are an extreme exception, people like Bin Laden? Not so sparce.
Originally posted by Justbyfaith
Better go back to history class. Rome (Catholicism) is responsible for the millions of deaths of Christians. Study up my friend! 😉
CHRISTIANITY IS STILL RESPONSIBLE you hypocrit.
Catholics ARE Christians....and you Protestants are HIGHLY responsible for:
1) The Near Extermination of the Native Americans
2) Salem WITCH TRIALS
3) Much of the conflicts that occured in mid Europe.
4) Much of the social and civil oppression that has OCCURED IN UNITED STATES ALONE
5) Muchhhh of the RACISM that has been inspired in red state America through the past years.
6) Rejection, oppression, intolerance and violence towards Homosexuals
7) The treatment of Women as Second class Citizens
8) The past denial to marry a white and black person.
9) The discouraging of bi-raciality and ethnic mixes in general.
10) The strengthening of the beginning development of the Ku Klux Klan
Islam is indeed very peaceful, you got to love the misinterpretations in this thread though. First of all, in Islam, no one goes to hell permanently, they are given their punishment then eventually go to heaven. In Christianity, if you are in hell, you are ****ed are you not?
The thing is I would not consider myself a Muslim, so I try not to talk with bias. Islam always intrigued me because of how it describes the process of birth so well, also how it describes space, basically it is a religion that fits with science.
And my Muslim friends always remind me of one thing, Heaven is not just a place for Muslims.
Imperial_Samura>.......... if the bible is to be believed then God is a just God.
Alliance>............
EXODUS 15:3---this is in the Old Testament... yes?
MATTHEW 10:34---Read the verses around this one; the disciples wanted an earthly kingdom... this isn't what Jesus came for. Basically his presense would not bring the peace they wanted but more conflict. This probably isn't the most satisfying answer but I'm not going to post all the verses, you'll have to read it yourself.
LUKE 10:10-12---Or maybe he accepted it because he was worthy?
LUKE 17:27--- So what? He is saying that the end times after Christ will be similar to the end times of Noah and Lot. Verse 33 kinda shows the point he is making... 'Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
LUKE 19:27--- Go and read verse 11 of this chapter please. This is the biggest problem with your 'copy, paste, point finger' tactics.
Verse 11 says that "He added and spake A PARABLE." Jesus wasn't saying this about those around him; he was telling a story about a nobleman who said this.
Originally posted by Justbyfaith
Better go back to history class. Rome (Catholicism) is responsible for the millions of deaths of Christians. Study up my friend! 😉
Gahhhhh!!!!
Not to be insulting, but I think it is you who needs to go back to history class.
1st: Catholics ARE Christian.
2nd: Rome was a pagan state (though pagan is a derogative term born of Christianity and thankfully is being used less by historians) - the Christian persecutions where carried out by the Roman government that was pagan - for a number of reasons, not just religious ones. This was before there was an official Church - there were no Catholics during the persecutions.
3rd: Constantine was the Roman emperor who made Christianity the state religion of Rome, and the one true religion. The Romans were not Christian until this point, long after the persecutions, which incidentally did not kill "millions" - beyond this, the birth of the Catholic Church the Christians began to persecute pagans (they took their temples, outlawed sacrifice, pushed out pagan ministers and intellectuals) and different types of Christians - thus began the cruel punishment of "heretics" who were also Christian, but didn't believe the same way as the Catholic Christians.
4th - Beyond this other religions were treated badly by western Christians (Catholics and Protestants when they came about) - the Manichean's, Islam, Hinduism, various eastern cults, Eastern Orthadox Christianity (then even further was what happened in South America, pagan religions of Europe, natives on countless Islands and Australia and New Zealand, Africa...)
The Bible, as has been mentioned, does have plenty of cases where violence has been extolled. More dangerous is the fact it gave Christians for a long time the belief that they had a *divine* duty to punish and convert nonbelievers and people who were not believing correctly. As a result a lot of violence was caused.
Originally posted by room #99
Hello, the misunderstood religon is islam :"Islam" which comes from the word "Salam" which means in english " Peace"
peace of mind
peace of soul
peace in the afterlifeYou might have heard that islam is the religon of terroists, well that why they call it the misunderstood religon. and to found why you have to discover islam 🙂
Here are some sites that can get you to know about Islam and its Ethics (Peace)
Your religion deamonises, insults and spreads lies about my religion on daily bases.
http://www.islamandbuddhism.com/2.html
How is it a peaceful religion if it keeps on proclaiming that my religion is opressive and enslaving, deeming people of my religion as lazy and beggers! Why is it necessary for a peaceful religion to spread lies about other religions? This just brings about hate and discrimination.
This picture shows Buddha and his followers, bowls in their hands, accepting offerings. These irrational Buddhist traditions continue today. Those who fall into Buddhist perversity, are obliged to beg, even though they have no need, and be humiliated. Instead of working for a living, Buddhism leads people into laziness and indolence, condemning them to primitive living conditions. But Islam enjoins exactly the opposite-a vigorous religion that makes its believers dynamic and directs them to do useful work. In contrast to the dark atmosphere of Buddhism, Islam enjoins cleanliness, courtesy, and fruitful labor and encourages the development of science and technology.
^^ That is what your religious leaders say about people of my religion.
Its trying to humiliate my religion so that it makes your religion look better!
How exactly am I missunderstanding Islam - you are certainly not going to find a Buddhist proclaiming lies like this about Islam.