General Grievous vs Darth Maul

Yoda was slightly superior (but for you i''ll say equal) in the force compard to Sidious.
What!? For one thing that would make Tyranus stronger than Sidious. For another thing the only reason Sidious won was because of his superiority in Force powers.
So lightning can be blocked
Yeah, but lightning can also block sabers, which Sidious was and easily could have continued to do with Mace's saber. Then he could have used the Force to get one of the fallen Jedi's sabers and win.
Yoda and Mace may be equal in power, but they have different lightsaber styles. Mace's was probably more affective against Sidious.
Excuses, excuses.
Yes, of course Lightning can stop a saber, thats why it...
A. Disfigured Sidious
or
B. Showed his true ugly ass.
It's B, confirmed by Ian and the ROTS novel.
And you must learn to stop being incorrect.
Me? Look at you!
I wasn't being racist, i merely stated that Ian was Scottish, and i don't see too many Scottish Ninjas around.
You stated that all Ninja's a Japenese, which is a racist, untrue stereotype.
This all doesn't change that you still remain a pompous shit.
right, and your a stubborn ****er.
I care how strong the actors are, fool!
If you are judging how strong characters are off the strength of the actors that play them then you are the fool.
And i do not assume "too" much. Samuel is younger and probably faster than the old Ian Mcdiarmid.
It ends here. This debate has npthing to do with how string the actors are.
Sidious used the force to shield his true face when he used all his power to use the force lightning against Mace he dropped the veil and you could see his true face.
Exactly, to TraptUnderIce you listen!

I've known that. 🙄

Originally posted by darthsith19
[B]Yoda was slightly superior (but for you i''ll say equal) in the force compard to Sidious.
What!? For one thing that would make Tyranus stronger than Sidious. For another thing the only reason Sidious won was because of his superiority in Force powers.
So lightning can be blocked
Yeah, but lightning can also block sabers, which Sidious was and easily could have continued to do with Mace's saber. Then he could have used the Force to get one of the fallen Jedi's sabers and win.
Yoda and Mace may be equal in power, but they have different lightsaber styles. Mace's was probably more affective against Sidious.
Excuses, excuses.
Yes, of course Lightning can stop a saber, thats why it...
A. Disfigured Sidious
or
B. Showed his true ugly ass.
It's B, confirmed by Ian and the ROTS novel.
And you must learn to stop being incorrect.
Me? Look at you!
I wasn't being racist, i merely stated that Ian was Scottish, and i don't see too many Scottish Ninjas around.
You stated that all Ninja's a Japenese, which is a racist, untrue stereotype.
This all doesn't change that you still remain a pompous shit.
right, and your a stubborn ****er.
I care how strong the actors are, fool!
If you are judging how strong characters are off the strength of the actors that play them then you are the fool.
And i do not assume "too" much. Samuel is younger and probably faster than the old Ian Mcdiarmid.
It ends here. This debate has npthing to do with how string the actors are.
Sidious used the force to shield his true face when he used all his power to use the force lightning against Mace he dropped the veil and you could see his true face.
Exactly, to TraptUnderIce you listen! [/B]

HOLY CHRISTWAGONS!

You damn tree stump! I never said all Ninjas are Japanese! You are putting words in my mouth....Or maybe you think all Ninjas are Japanese, making you a Hypocritical Racist bastard!

Either way, Mace did something to Palpatine. He uncovered his ugly UGLY face. Mace cornered him and was ready to slice n dice.

And i do realize the debate has nothing to do with the actors string collection...Oops, i mean strength, but point being Samuel could kick Ian to shit.

Excuses? It sounds like you saying that Sidious faking losing to Mace is just one big excuse, you Hypocrate!

seriously.....Mace was just anothr tool for Sids to get Anakin. Sids coulda beat him instead of giggling and dropping his saber.....keep in mind Sids can FEEL Anakin's presence, he knew where he was and when he was coming

You damn tree stump! I never said all Ninjas are Japanese! You are putting words in my mouth....Or maybe you think all Ninjas are Japanese, making you a Hypocritical Racist bastard!
I said for all we know Ian is a Ninja and you said something like "what, did he fly to Japan." stating that all Ninja's are Japenese.
Either way, Mace did something to Palpatine. He uncovered his ugly UGLY face.
No, Sidious uncovered his own ugly face.
Mace cornered him and was ready to slice n dice.
Mace did corner him, but only because Palpatine allowed him to. He couldn't have sliced and diced because Sidious could block the lightsaber with lightning.

Hey guys, check this out: wait, I can't post links! SHIT!

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Originally posted by darthsith19
[B]You damn tree stump! I never said all Ninjas are Japanese! You are putting words in my mouth....Or maybe you think all Ninjas are Japanese, making you a Hypocritical Racist bastard!
I said for all we know Ian is a Ninja and you said something like "what, did he fly to Japan." stating that all Ninja's are Japenese.
Either way, Mace did something to Palpatine. He uncovered his ugly UGLY face.
No, Sidious uncovered his own ugly face.
Mace cornered him and was ready to slice n dice.
Mace did corner him, but only because Palpatine allowed him to. He couldn't have sliced and diced because Sidious could block the lightsaber with lightning.

Hey guys, check this out: wait, I can't post links! SHIT!

here we go again: h t t p : / / b o a r d s . t h e f o r c e . n e t / m e s s a g e . a s p [/B]

Oh my lord... You're joking, right?

Most Ninja schools are in Japan. Not Scotland or America but in Japan. And even if there is Ninja schools in Scotland or America, they probably aren't good because they are not Japanese authentic. Get your shit straight before you accuse someone.

Sidious did not plan on uncovering his true identity. He tried to shock Mace, but it didn't work, because Mace blocked it. (Him trying to shock Mace is more proof that he was trying in their lightsaber battle.)

They don't have ninja schools you jackasses. Ninjas used to be trained in dojos and they don't still train people to be ninjas.

Originally posted by TraptUnderIce
They don't have ninja schools you jackasses. Ninjas used to be trained in dojos and they don't still train people to be ninjas.

Actually, get your facts straight. People do still train Ninjitsu. There is a school in burnaby where i live. Who is the Jackass now?

Oh my lord... You're joking, right?
?
Most Ninja schools are in Japan. Not Scotland or America but in Japan.
Most but not all, therefor saying Ian would have had to go to Japan to learn Ninjitsu is racist.
And even if there is Ninja schools in Scotland or America, they probably aren't good because they are not Japanese authentic.
That's probably not definately and even from a poor Ninjitsu school you get stronger and become a better fitghter.
Get your shit straight before you accuse someone.
Um, my shit is straight.
Sidious did not plan on uncovering his true identity. He tried to shock Mace, but it didn't work, because Mace blocked it.
Sidious's plan: Kill all the Jedi but Mace. Make it appear Mace had beat him but only lose on purpose as sson as Anakin is right outside the office. Then make it look like Sidious's is hopelessly lost and scared and needs Anakin to save him. then Anakin cuts off Mace's hand and Sidious kills Mace.

he took the cover off his own face. Anakin, Mace and everyone else thought it was the effect of the lightning, which was exactly what Sidious wanted them to believe.
(Him trying to shock Mace is more proof that he was trying in their lightsaber battle.)
Of course he was trying. he had to work hard to time the duel perfectly so he didn't die but appeared to have lost so he got Anakin on his side.

Originally posted by darthsith19
[B]Oh my lord... You're joking, right?
?
Most Ninja schools are in Japan. Not Scotland or America but in Japan.
Most but not all, therefor saying Ian would have had to go to Japan to learn Ninjitsu is racist.
And even if there is Ninja schools in Scotland or America, they probably aren't good because they are not Japanese authentic.
That's probably not definately and even from a poor Ninjitsu school you get stronger and become a better fitghter.
Get your shit straight before you accuse someone.
Um, my shit is straight.
Sidious did not plan on uncovering his true identity. He tried to shock Mace, but it didn't work, because Mace blocked it.
Sidious's plan: Kill all the Jedi but Mace. Make it appear Mace had beat him but only lose on purpose as sson as Anakin is right outside the office. Then make it look like Sidious's is hopelessly lost and scared and needs Anakin to save him. then Anakin cuts off Mace's hand and Sidious kills Mace.

he took the cover off his own face. Anakin, Mace and everyone else thought it was the effect of the lightning, which was exactly what Sidious wanted them to believe.
(Him trying to shock Mace is more proof that he was trying in their lightsaber battle.)
Of course he was trying. he had to work hard to time the duel perfectly so he didn't die but appeared to have lost so he got Anakin on his side. [/B]

Saying that Ian would have to go the Japan to learn Ninjitsu is NOT Racist, you retarded fool. If he really wanted a good Ninjitsu Master, Japan would be the best place.

Sidious never had the plan. His plan was to kill Kit, Mace, Sassee, and Agen. Mace knows Form VII which is a rare form of Jedi fighting. Sidious had troubles killing Mace because Mace was a very powerful Jedi Master. Sidious ended up killing Mace in the end anyways, so why would he have wanted Anakin to kill him? Sidious wanted to kill him because he lost the saber fight. Think about this. Sidious got Anakin to kill Dooku, right? Alot of people are saying that "He waiting for Anakin because Mace was Anakins key to the dark side". Ok then, why didn't Sidious let Anakin finish Mace? He let him finish Dooku. Hell, he "told" him to finish Dooku. Why not say "FINISH MACE, ANAKIN! KILL HIM!". I will tell you why. Sidious wanted to kill Mace the entire time during the office fight but Mace was too powerful to be killed that easily, so even if Palpatine did call Anakin through his head, which i doubt, he probably called him for help.

I thought this was a Grievous vs. Maul thread...

I would say Maul... Maul took on Kinobe and Ginn for all practial purposes won... Kinobe just suprized him and in Mauls arrogence was not ready for it.

Therefore I think Maul could take him.

Originally posted by LordSorgo
S Sidious ended up killing Mace in the end anyways, so why would he have wanted Anakin to kill him? Sidious wanted to kill him because he lost the saber fight. Think about this. Sidious got Anakin to kill Dooku, right? Alot of people are saying that "He waiting for Anakin because Mace was Anakins key to the dark side". Ok then, why didn't Sidious let Anakin finish Mace? He let him finish Dooku. Hell, he "told" him to finish Dooku. Why not say "FINISH MACE, ANAKIN! KILL HIM!". I will tell you why. Sidious wanted to kill Mace the entire time during the office fight but Mace was too powerful to be killed that easily, so even if Palpatine did call Anakin through his head, which i doubt, he probably called him for help.

His plan was to kill Kit, Mace, Sassee, and Agen.
Mission acclompished.
Mace knows Form VII which is a rare form of Jedi fighting.
I thought we agreed this is bullshit.
Sidious had troubles killing Mace because Mace was a very powerful Jedi Master.
he really didn't have much trouble making it appear that Mace defeated him.
Sidious ended up killing Mace in the end anyways, so why would he have wanted Anakin to kill him?
He didn't necessairly want Anakin to kill Mace. he wanted Anakin to think he, Sidious, was in danger so that Anakin would save Sidious. That would turn Anakin to Sidious's side.
Sidious wanted to kill him because he lost the saber fight.
Sidious wanted to kill him because he's a Jedi and Sidious is a Sith.
Why not say "FINISH MACE, ANAKIN! KILL HIM!".
1. He didn't need to
2. Anakin would realise he was doing something wrong and stop Sidious. The way it happened Mace was dead before Anakin had any time to fix the damage. By the time he refretted what he'd done it was to late to turn back.
Sidious wanted to kill Mace the entire time during the office fight
Obviously,. he wants all the Jedi to be dead.

You sir, are a dumbass!

So, what happened to the Maul Grevious fight?

I say Maul

Ok, so you are saying that Sidious DID try to kill Mace during the whole office fight and was not waiting for Anakin. I would like to thank you for your agreement with me on that.

he really didn't have much trouble making it appear that Mace defeated him.
But he did have alot of trouble stopping Mace from not killing his sorry ass. 🙂

I thought we agreed this is bullshit.
No, we agreed that Vapaad is bullshit. If you think Form VII isn't real, your focking retarded. Of course, bearing the fact that you're retarded already, deeming you "More retarded".

He didn't necessairly want Anakin to kill Mace. he wanted Anakin to think he, Sidious, was in danger so that Anakin would save Sidious. That would turn Anakin to Sidious's side.

What's that noise? Oh, that would be my Bullshit detector. He didn't want Anakin to think he was in danger.... He was in Danger! And Anakin saved his life.

Ok, so you are saying that Sidious DID try to kill Mace during the whole office fight and was not waiting for Anakin. I would like to thank you for your agreement with me on that.
I never said he tried to kill Mace during the whole fight, only that he wanted to kill him. There's a big difference.
But he did have alot of trouble stopping Mace from not killing his sorry ass. smile
No, he was ****ing with Mace. Mace never even got close to killing him.
No, we agreed that Vapaad is bullshit. If you think Form VII isn't real, your focking retarded. Of course, bearing the fact that you're retarded already, deeming you "More retarded".
Form 7 isn't real, you ****ing retarded, good for nothing lump of shit. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE 7 FORMS OF LIGHTSABER COMBAT!

Said by Nick Gillard himself.

He didn't want Anakin to think he was in danger.... He was in Danger! And Anakin saved his life.
You know, this is getting stupid. Mace wasn't even close to killing Palpatine. Think about it. How was Palpatine in any real danger?

Sorgo....man go read and wacth the book/movie again you obtuse stubborn man.

Answer this question for yourelf: Why would Palps just sit there and wait for the council to come? He knew what he had to deal with becuase it was what he forseena and expected! If he didn't he could have left right when Anakin said he was going to be arrested.

Originally posted by darthsith19
[B]Ok, so you are saying that Sidious DID try to kill Mace during the whole office fight and was not waiting for Anakin. I would like to thank you for your agreement with me on that.
I never said he tried to kill Mace during the whole fight, only that he wanted to kill him. There's a big difference.
But he did have alot of trouble stopping Mace from not killing his sorry ass. smile
No, he was ****ing with Mace. Mace never even got close to killing him.
No, we agreed that Vapaad is bullshit. If you think Form VII isn't real, your focking retarded. Of course, bearing the fact that you're retarded already, deeming you "More retarded".
Form 7 isn't real, you ****ing retarded, good for nothing lump of shit. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE 7 FORMS OF LIGHTSABER COMBAT!

Said by Nick Gillard himself.

He didn't want Anakin to think he was in danger.... He was in Danger! And Anakin saved his life.
You know, this is getting stupid. Mace wasn't even close to killing Palpatine. Think about it. How was Palpatine in any real danger? [/B]

Yes, he did get close to killing Sidious. Palpatine isn't shown saying anything to signify that he was faking, nor do we see him "call" to Anakin.

This is akward because Nick Gillard states that his character knows form III.

He was close but Sidious didn't care because he knew Anakin was on his way. What does it matter what Nick Gillard thinks? Since Nick Gillard didn't write all the EU Novels do they not count anymore?