Originally posted by lord xyz
God is a man because it says so. People who say 'she' piss me off because they're trying to say that women are more important and men are sexist. But then again, it's not only that. But people do say 'she' deliberately so you know they are saying 'she'.
It only says so in the bible, and there are places in the bible were god is refereed to as I Am.
Re: Him or Her?
Originally posted by meep-meep
She or He? Why must GOD be regered to in these restrictive terms?Does it bother anyone that when peole refer to God they sometimes, if not often, refer to this absrtract entity as he or him? Is God a man or does it exhibit "manly" qualities?"
I'm not particulartly concerned how people feel about God being refered to as a woman, mainly because I don't often heat anyone label GOD as being female or exhibiting femine qualities. But if you'd like to comment on that specific opic please feel free to.
Truthfully, and hopefully objectively, speaking I find it very irritating to hear people refer to God as anything resembling a human being much less a gender of that species.I would think that to understand what GOD (the thing that jump started the creation of our universe and the evolutionary, geologic, astrologic and mathematic processes that shape it) is we should start by not picturing God as some old guy with a flwing white beard. Furthermore, it could be helpful if many members of organized faith based institutions stopped being so GOD damned unwaveringly mentally predisposed to idiocy.
* Christ said, God is the Father...
"Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God , he hath seen the Father."
John 6:46
* God is male... but because He is God...
"He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see?"
Psalms 94:9
* God can do what males and females can... for example...
"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father , he hath declared him."
John 1:18
"For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee ? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"
Hebrews 1:5
* God gave birth to Christ... which most of the species only females can do... except the seahorses... 😉
Re: Re: Him or Her?
Originally posted by peejayd
* Christ said, God is the Father..."Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God , he hath seen the Father."
John 6:46* God is male... but because He is God...
"He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see?"
Psalms 94:9* God can do what males and females can... for example...
"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father , he hath declared him."
John 1:18"For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee ? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"
Hebrews 1:5* God gave birth to Christ... which most of the species only females can do... except the seahorses... 😉
No offense but as far as I can tell I am still about where I was before I brought this topic up thanks to this.
Re: Him or Her?
Originally posted by meep-meep
She or He? Why must GOD be regered to in these restrictive terms?Does it bother anyone that when peole refer to God they sometimes, if not often, refer to this absrtract entity as he or him? Is God a man or does it exhibit "manly" qualities?"
Haven't read the rest of the replies, so forgive me if I repeat anything.
I do not believe in God, but the way I see it is that the religion isn't anything new (obviously) the concept of God came about when society was male dominated & women were nothing. Therefore God was considered male, as in those times a female wasn't regarded as anything. So we have years upon years upon lifetimes, upon ages of referring to God in a masculin term, it's a habit that isn't going to die easily.
Re: Re: Him or Her?
Originally posted by Joscail
Haven't read the rest of the replies, so forgive me if I repeat anything.I do not believe in God, but the way I see it is that the religion isn't anything new (obviously) the concept of God came about when society was male dominated & women were nothing. Therefore God was considered male, as in those times a female wasn't regarded as anything. So we have years upon years upon lifetimes, upon ages of referring to God in a masculin term, it's a habit that isn't going to die easily.
Or.... Maybe God spoke to someone all those eons ago and they saw that He was a MAN.
If God doesn't exist then it really doesn't matter, if He does then there is a right answer to the question. 🙂
Originally posted by meep-meepGender is a matter of semitics...........in the OT god really has no gender nor do the angels..............nor do people when they die according to the bible.
Gender shmender. you don't see scientists calling every new molecule, star, element they find He or Him or She or Her for that matter..
Originally posted by debbiejo
Gender is a matter of semitics...........in the OT god really has no gender nor do the angels..............nor do people when they die according to the bible.
What OT are you reading? My copy is constantly using the masculine pronoun.
example Genesis 1:5
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. (emphasis mine)
god could be a man because it has been proven that men do infact, think better than women when it comes to planning things, logic and creativity. Thus, god would have an advantage if he was a man.
however,
god could be a woman because women are designed to create offspring, so god, being a woman, would have made women the creators to show that she created us.
but,
god can also be it! However the bible is very strict between sexes about which sex should do what, nonetheless, god can be it because it would show that god is not a species, therefore there is only one god, apart from 'the god of god (of god of god of god etc.)'.
although,
it is best to say that god is either. And what you believe or prefer, would be the best way to call him.
then again,
it would be pretty funny to think god as both genders. And god being ashamed of this, decided to make us have 2 genders to make him think that he has only one sexual organ, rather than two.
that I think, sums it up.
it would be pretty funny to think god as both genders. And god being ashamed of this, decided to make us have 2 genders to make him think that he has only one sexual organ, rather than two.
that I think, sums it up.
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What OT are you reading? My copy is constantly using the masculine pronoun.example Genesis 1:5
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. (emphasis mine)
must not be forgotten was that Adam was created in the image or reflection of Elohim (Gn. 1:27)—the Creator. This means that the human body manifests many of the spiritual attributes of Elohim's spiritual body.
Elohim's spiritual body is both male and female in principle, then Adam's body must be created to reflect this. Basically, Elohim's spiritual body is made-up of nine attributes such as Intelligence, Wisdom, Knowledge, Love, Beauty, Justice, Foundation, Power, and Strength. In fact, each of these spiritual attributes is both male and female.
What this means is that all spiritual attributes have both a female and male counterpart. For example, Intelligence and Wisdom have a gender. Solomon makes this point when he assigns the female gender to Wisdom. He writes in the Proverb: "Does not wisdom call out? Does not understanding raise her voice (Pro. 8:1)?"
The male side of Intelligence and Wisdom is logic and critical thinking, while the feminine side is more intuitive and caring. Both are necessary for the creative process to work. There is no domination of one over the other, for they both are equal or exist as King and Queen. Clearly, this is a model of perfection or androgyny and it is the balance of the male and female principle in one.
Why were the sexes separated possibly?
Now the sexes could of been separated so that mankind might understand the operation of the principles and characteristics that the Creator Elohim, who is spirit, possesses (Jn. 4:24). Without the physical counterpart of the male and female principles, there is no way to understand the invisible spiritual operation and its creative process of conception. From these opposites, males and females, always comes a new creature. Many of the ancient secret schools and Greeks understood the importance of opposites.
It only has been in the last 200 years that a philosophy has brought out the importance of these opposites in any creative process. The German philosopher Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831) developed a philosophy called Hegelianism. The philosophy of Hegel states that every existent idea or fact belongs to an all-embracing mind in which each idea or situation (thesis) evokes its opposite (antithesis) and these two result in a unified whole (synthesis), which in turn becomes a new thesis. (see "Conspiracy: Fact or Fiction?" in the Vol. 8, #2 issue of the "PLIM REPORT"😉.