Originally posted by tpaquin
The big problem that I have is Coruscant. A planet-wide city would have to support at least one trillion people. There's no way that a planet could maintain an industrialized population of that gearth. The amount of excriment alone per day would have to equal the mass of a small moon.Then, I remember that it's supposed to be off-kilter fantasy.
yeah that was a minor thing with me,but that was in the back of my mind of something I thought was silly as well.
I prefer ROTJ to Ep1 and 2 by a long way, but the gap between ESB and ROTJ is too large. Come on, Ewoks. GL should have gone with Wookies despite the whole technological advanced thing. ROTJ Luke just kicks arse and is really cool but the Palace scene goes on for too long and the film sucks until the finale. I believe ROTJ was the beginning of Lucas's downfall.
I'm watching Return of the Jedi right now, and I was just thinking. Why do they have to send a trike force to the planet to destroy the big sattelite? After the battle breaks out, wouldn't it be much, much easier just to send an X-wing down there to shoot it and blow it up? The shuttle needed teh clearance code in order to get down without the tie fighters blowing them up, but when you have six ties on your ass, you might as well pop down and knock out that deflector shield for old Lando, right?
Where's the logic?
cause the shield had to be down before the fleet arrived. It was supposed to be a surprise attack, still...
You just can't let your fleet make the jump, let them hang around while an x-wing goes to take down the shield and THEN open fire, that's taking too much time and risk. Saver was (as they did) to infiltrate, take the shield down and immediatly after that emerge from hyperspace to shoot the DS down
There is a definite drop in movie quality when ROTJ came out. What I mean by movie quality, is in Star Wars terms. I love ROTJ, and all Star Wars movies, but when comparing them to one another, that is where I become harsh on them.
ESB is my favorite, with ANH coming in at a close second. Those two movies to me are perfect movies. I can watch them, and I don't wish Lucas would have done anything different to make them better.
ROTS & ROTJ are # 3 & #4, and that is the first drop in quality of a Star Wars movies. I love these movies, but there are certain parts of the movies I wish Lucas would have done different. ROTJ, get rid of those damn Ewoks, and ROTS, can you make Padme die other than just giving up. Also in ROTS, when Anakin turns in about 2 seconds, it isn't very convincing.
Then there are AOTC at # 5, and TPM at #6. They are good Star Wars movies, but far from great. There are many things in these movies I would have done different to make them better, mostly getting away from the kiddy factor.
All in all ROTJ was the first drop in quality in the Star Wars universe, and I don't think Lucas was every able to duplicate ANH & ESB since. Then again, how hard would it be to make 6 perfect/great movies?
Originally posted by mp34everdb
George Lucas is a genius, people will be speculating over these movies long after you and I are gone.Long Live The FORCE.
He was only a genius when it came to making A New Hope and Empire,the others were dog doo.Except for Sith,that one was actually a pretty good star wars flick.
No matter how much you argue people all have different opinions and the ESB fans will always say ROTJ sucked and ROTJ fans will always say ROTJ is way better. One thing though ccoo did you really think ROTS was better than ROTJ? Because I could name a ton more stupid things about ROTS than I could about ROTJ. Also ROTJ fans could argue that one thing that is bad about ESB is that all it is is the empire chasing the rebels for like the whole movie which is like one wild Bantha chase until the end. The only real big plot critical points are I am your father and yoda. Give me one good reason why you hate the ewoks besides "I was born to hate them and they annoy the crap out of me" and how do they hurt the story so much that you like it the least out of the trilogy?
The Ewoks are not cool, that is why they hurt the movie. Just think it was a planet of wookies, how much better ROTJ would be. Don't get me wrong, I can watch ROTJ til the day I die, I just don't think it is as good as ESB or ANH.
The Ewoks, I believe were cute and cuddly, which is good marketing to sell action figures to kids. I don't have a problem with Lucas making as much money as wants, but it definitely hurt the movie.
The final battle on Endor with the Ewoks doing their cute little cheers, and their overall unserious tone hurts the whole battle. Sometimes when you have a climax battle like that, and you sacrifice a little seriousness, you hurt the drama. Drama and Tension is what drives the final trench run in ANH, and the same for the whole cloud city part of ESB. Now there is awesome drama in ROTJ with The Emperor, Luke, and Vader. That part was done right, because I feel that is the best part of the movie whenever I watch it.