Originally posted by Ytse
I contend that those with natural talent will learn faster, but given enough time no one will find a natural ceiling for their ability. Look at some of the stuff Liszt wrote. At the time maybe five or six other pianists could play it. But he practices for six hours a day for the majority of his life. Now more and more people can play his compositions though they're still extremely challenging for the most part.
There was another post to reply to also.
Given enough time? We've gone off the logic train tracks now haven't we? If a lifetime isn't enough for most people, even guitarists with outstanding ability, to become as good as Vai, then we needn't (You and Spoony) go around saying "If they had infinite time.", because it's not relevant.
As VVD said: "That's what he meant, because the actual speed of finger movement isn't beyond most people. It's the accuracy and techniques accompanying the movement. Steve Vai's fingers don't move faster than you or I could achieve by moving our fingers in the air.".
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Given enough time? We've gone off the logic train tracks now haven't we?
Cute.
If a lifetime isn't enough for most people, even guitarists with outstanding ability, to become as good as Vai, then we needn't (You and Spoony) go around saying "If they had infinite time.", because it's not relevant.
But this is speculation on just how much time they actually spend trying to further their ability and how efficiently they can progress.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You think no rock guitarist could play things by Segovia?Highly unrealistic.
Segovia practiced classical guitar SPECIFICALLY since he was 4. There is no way anbody in the modern era can play Bach like Segovia, and I doubt any rock guitarist has the balls nor the lack of intelligence to claim "I can play bach like segovia". You don't know what you are talking about my friend, Segovia was a master. Just becuase you can play Bach doesnt mean you can play Bach with heart, soul, and have 90 years of perfecting each piece.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Segovia practiced classical guitar SPECIFICALLY since he was 4. There is no way anbody in the modern era can play Bach like Segovia, and I doubt any rock guitarist has the balls nor the lack of intelligence to claim "I can play bach like segovia". You don't know what you are talking about my friend, Segovia was a master. Just becuase you can play Bach doesnt mean you can play Bach with heart, soul, and have 90 years of perfecting each piece.
It's a shame you don't play guitar with your heart, which pumps blood, and your soul (which is either ineffable or non-existent).
If you lay the tab in front of many rock guitarists, they will play it.
90 years of perfecting each piece? How old was he again?
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
It's a shame you don't play guitar with your heart, which pumps blood, and your soul, (which is either ineffable or non-existent).If you lay the tab in front of many rock guitarists, they will play it.
90 years of perfecting each piece? How old was he again?
You're an idiot or just very ignorant. Either way, Im done arguing with somebody in your mental condition.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Cya. Bring an argument next time.
I did, and it still stands to be answered by somebody who has intelligence. AC brough up the argument, too bad you're too much or a moron (your the one bringing up TABS when im discussing classical music) . The point is it's hard to judge the best guitarist becuase Hendrix couldn't play Segovia, Segovia can't play Hendrix. Just like Clapton cant play Vai or Satriani.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
I did, and it still stands to be answered by somebody who has intelligence. AC brough up the argument, too bad you're too much or a moron (your the one bringing up TABS when im discussing classical music) . The point is it's hard to judge the best guitarist becuase Hendrix couldn't play Segovia, Segovia can't play Hendrix. Just like Clapton cant play Vai or Satriani.
Sorry, forgot you couldn't tab classical guitar music.
Welcome back by the way.
Did you bring one?
Or are you 'too much or a moron'?
Moreover, I agree that Hendrix mightn't be able to play what Segovia plays (glad you made the Clapton analogy, confirming you simply mean technical ability).
Nevertheless, Hendrix isn't every single rock guitarist, is he? At least last time I checked, which was admittedly a few days ago.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Sorry, forgot you couldn't tab classical guitar music.Welcome back by the way.
Did you bring one?
Or are you 'too much or a moron'?
von doom- I wasn’t talking you, imbecile.
AC- Do you understand how it's silly to think that any rock guitarist can play anything Andres Segovia did. He played for 90 years, a specific type of music. I doubt Segovia has even touched a electric guitar, much like hendrix and other couldnt even read music. It's hard to compare the two.
For example it like saying the following.
Socrates can skate.
Socrates is a hockey player.
Plato can skate.
PLato is a figure skater.
Hockey players need to know how to skate
Figure skaters need to know how to skate.
There fore Socrates can figure skate.
Therfore Plato can play Hockey.
That pretty much what some people are saying. They are trying to take something that ONE DIMENSIONAL and build a argument.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTERFor example it like saying the following.
Socrates can skate.
Socrates is a hockey player.
Plato can skate.
PLato is a figure skater.
Hockey players need to know how to skate
Figure skaters need to know how to skate.
There fore Socrates can figure skate.
Therfore Plato can play Hockey.
Haha.
Yeah, that's exactly what everyone was saying.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, I think you're pretty much talking out of your ass now.If you put his music in front of guitar players, they could play it. Some could play more than others.
-AC
So you're telling me 60 (to be conservative) years of playing classical guitar wouldnt make you play better (classical) guitar than somebody who has been playing rock guitar for 20? How does thatr make scense. Explain.