Who is the best guitarist of all time??

Started by 2D_MASTER25 pages
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Is this topic limited to rock guitarist? NONE of them can play like Segovia. Even if they lived 120 years.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Segovia practiced classical guitar SPECIFICALLY since he was 4. There is no way anbody in the modern era can play Bach like Segovia, and I doubt any rock guitarist has the balls nor the lack of intelligence to claim "I can play bach like segovia". You don't know what you are talking about my friend, Segovia was a master. Just becuase you can play Bach doesnt mean you can play Bach with heart, soul, and have 90 years of perfecting each piece.

Thats what I said from the get go. LIKE andres segovia. I didnt say none of them can play the music he does. I never said once that NOBODY can play what he does, just that nobody can play classical like him with such expertise and such mastery. Heck I know that a lot of rock guitarist can play classical pieces. It's IGNORANT to say they can play it as beautifull as he did. Thats all i was saying.

No you didn't.

VVD asked you if you meant people couldn't play LIKE him or people couldn't play his stuff at all, you said; Either.

-AC

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Thats what I said from the get go. LIKE andres segovia. I didnt say none of them can play the music he does. I never said once that NOBODY can play what he does, just that nobody can play classical like him with such expertise and such mastery. Heck I know that a lot of rock guitarist can play classical pieces. It's IGNORANT to say they can play it as beautifull as he did. Thats all i was saying.

Was it?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You mean write like him? Or play his stuff.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Either.

Now, I may be misquoting (I'm not), but I said 'play his stuff'.

You said they couldn't.

Then you claimed tabs don't apply to classical guitar, and that Segovia polished every piece for 90 years.

So, what you now claim you said, you didn't. Perhaps you thought it, but it's usually best to write it down. Just in case the person you are thinking to isn't a telepath.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You mean write like him? Or play his stuff.

First off, I showed TWO quotes where I clearified myself, even if you did misunderstand me (but I'm sure youll be stubborn and STILL bring up the first vague thing I said). I said play "like" him. So read those again. Second what I quoted above could be taken two ways, apparently I misunderstood the question. I thought the "like" was" attached to the "play his stuff" and as well. I misread your question. To clarify for you, since you can't seem to grasp the meaning of the phase "nobody can play like him.." appeartly you assumed that equates to "...nobody can play the stuff he does...". I meant nobody can write in the same way or play the same way as he did. So stop tying to find something to argue about and please stop arguing over nothing.

No, he did quite clearly ask you if you meant write like him OR play his stuff.

You messed up the interpretation, so accept responsibility.

Every time someone debates you, all you do is get upset and accuse people of arguing over nothing. It's a debate forum, deal with it.

People can play the same style and play like him, whether or not a lesser experienced rock guitarist would be as skilled as a 60 year veteran of classical is unlikely, but to say they couldn't play any of his stuff is wrong, which is what you said. Nobody misunderstood you, you said nobody could write like him OR play his stuff, we took it as such, we're not mind readers.

Try saying what you mean.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, he did quite clearly ask you if you meant write like him OR play his stuff.

You messed up the interpretation, so accept responsibility.

-AC

What you can't read either? I clarified myself in two post immediately afterward. It's not my fault you two choose to dwell on my first one. You two just enjoy arguing too much, and I did accept responsobility, I read his question wrong.
And i do'nt mind arguring, as long as people dont try to argue with me about a misunderstanding. Which I've told you both is the case. I'd be happy to argue with you if I felt we were arguing about something.

Ok, then it's a misunderstanding, no problem.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Ok, then it's a misunderstanding, no problem.

-AC

Anyways, I think you're secretly sad that the "you know what" thread got closed. You missed the thrill of pointless arguing and were goign through withdrawls. Sheesh man, I was TRYING to actually support of argument,which I agrred with, I guess that fawking went well. bwhahaha. : )

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
First off, I showed TWO quotes where I clearified myself, even if you did misunderstand me (but I'm sure youll be stubborn and STILL bring up the first vague thing I said).

I didn't misunderstand; you obviously miswrote. You then altered it, and claimed I was wrong for not knowing you had meant that.

You claimed I 'don't know what I'm talking about', though you now, rightly, acknowledge that it was indeed you going wrong.

You then called me an idiot and ignorant for not understanding what you were saying. Sorry, thinking (because you hadn't actually said it yet).

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER

I said play "like" him.

Yes, later.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER

So read those again.

Ok. Yep, it was later.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER

Second what I quoted above could be taken two ways, apparently I misunderstood the question. I thought the "like" was" attached to the "play his stuff" and as well. I misread your question.

So when you say later to AC 'you can't read either?', you obviously compare him with yourself. Here are two clues as to it being two different questions:

The use of the conjunction 'or';

Also, there are two questions.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER

To clarify for you, since you can't seem to grasp the meaning of the phase "nobody can play like him.."

Yes, I can understand that phrase perfectly. If only you had said it, and not...not said it. You now see where you went wrong, so there should be no problem on that front. Not sure why you falsely labour under the pretence that I didn't understand your correction.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER

appeartly you assumed that equates to "...nobody can play the stuff he does...".

No. I know what that means as well. Fun this, saying what you mean.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER

I meant nobody can write in the same way or play the same way as he did.
Agreed. I would have agreed originally, if you had said it originally.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER

So stop tying to find something to argue about and please stop arguing over nothing.

It's not over nothing, it's over your mistake. Which you perpetuated, realised, and then altered what you said in a hail of impotent insults.

Admit the mistake with good grace, and it's not a big deal. Weasel out, and it continues. Pretty much the pattern of this discussion.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

It's not over nothing, it's over your mistake. Which you perpetuated, realised, and then altered what you said in a hail of impotent insults.

Admit the mistake with good grace, and it's not a big deal. Weasel out, and it continues. Pretty much the pattern of this discussion.

That's already been done. Like 3 Post ago, I addmited I misunderstood your question. Stop trying to find an excuse to be an d#ck, calm down dude.

You should calm down, he was just saying something.

-AC

Marco Pirroni

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You should calm down, he was just saying something.

-AC

You shut your mouth AC. I will kill you.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
You shut your mouth AC. I will kill you.

Someone should take their meds.

Originally posted by Pezmerga
Someone should take their meds.

Bwhahaha. I have. I was just joking with AC anyways. I wouldnt kill him, just torture him for years until he wished he was dead.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
That's already been done. Like 3 Post ago, I addmited I misunderstood your question. Stop trying to find an excuse to be an d#ck, calm down dude.

Well, you admitted you made the mistake. Now you just need to stop the insults, and you'll have gone a good way towards not being a ****.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Well, you admitted you made the mistake. Now you just need to stop the insults, and you'll have gone a good way towards not being a ****.

Nah, I think I'll keep going with the insults, if I see fit. Thanks for the tip though.

Whatever.

Stop bitching about it then.

Whatever.

Stop bitching about it then.

I think I can safely leave that there.