Adolf Hitler Discussion

Hitler was interesting,
he was a creation of the system. Liek TO said the first page, he was an effect rather than a cause. Becaue of the treaty of Versaille (sp??) Germany was really oppressed and stuff, He rose out of the rubble and did what Germany needed, he pulled them outta the depression, he did this by militarizing and industrilizing. then he took it too far and turned to facism and empire-building.
But the Jew extermination was not in his original plan, or it seems not to be. That seemed like something tacked on to the side.
Yes he made the Jews scapegoats for everything that was wrong, but thats not really anything new. Empires had been doing that for a long time, maybe not as severe but still.
The Final solution was borrowed, he didn't come up with it. He looked at the Turkish execution of the Armenians and ran with it. and it was called the final solution becuase it was just that. Germany was losing and the allied nations were pushing forward, so thats when he made the decision.
I'm not sayinghe wan't evil, he was, as was satlin and counltess other men, but you jsut have to look at circumstances to truly understand.

Originally posted by manny321
Hitler is evil! WE do not need to show dead Jews in concentration camps to prove this point. Those images haunt me sometimes because they are so gruesome. Piles of lifeless bodies all over the place in ten foot heaps. I don't know what can be more eviler. Bush is not hitler but he isn't the next honest Abe.

Yeah, I remember studying WWII and the holocaust in high school. My teacher gave me this book of pictures of the holocaust and it was beyond gruesome. This one picture showed these two 5 year old boys standing for the picture and their crotches had been "experimented" on by Nazi doctors for no medical reason at all. That image is something I will never forget.

Whoa, what did they do to them?

I wish the depth and complexity of reality was more apparent to some of those participating in this thread. Hitler was not just an anti semite. Had that been the case, there wouldn't have been others in the camps than Jews.

The truth about Hitler was that he was a genious. But he wasn't a great man. I watch the documentaries on the man and I am in awe of his ability to control the people around him. It wasn't just political, it was religious. Not only did Hitler control the politics of Germany, but he controlled the religion. He became the religion of Germany. The biggest aspect of Hitler to be considered is his ability to understand and dictate the passions of the people he ruled.
To discount the fact that this man controlled those around him is to ignore the truth of the man. Many people in this thread want to count bodies to say that one man was more evil than the next. But that point is lost in this discussion. The major difference between Stalin and Hitler was that one was around longer than the next. These are two men that were considered allies for a long time before Hitler decided to stab Stalin in the back. Stalin was so caught off guard by Hitlers betrayal that he didn't believe that action had to be taken until it was too late and the Nazis were already half way to the Russian capital. Stalin once said that the word of an honouralbe German was proof enough for him that there was no reason to second guess Hitler.

The truth of the matter was that Hitler was a genious. He was a radical and he was a nut. It is often said that one can be both and all of those things at the same time. Do not discount the fact that this madman founded the most progressive and radical government seen on the planet. Hitler is oneof those oddities that proves that extreme politics can work, but only in the most extreme cases...when no opossition is allowed.

Think about it, he was an Austrian, and the only thing he honestly wanted was to kill all Jews.

Originally posted by SlipknoT
Hitler was a smart guy.

hitler was a derranged psychopath

Originally posted by eleveninches
He can't have been that smart. He lost.
THe allies had many plans to assasinate him, but pulled out at the last moment, as they were afraid of a more competant leader taking over from hitler. They thought hitler was better off where he was making loads of bad military decisions

He also killed himself and his wife or what ever she was.So I would not say he was too bright!JM

Hitler picked on the Jews and Gipsies because he knew people already hated them... you can guarantee that if Muslims had been in the same position as the jews were then, it would have been "death to the evil Muslims who have ruined our country..." lets be honest, anti semitism is one of the very oldest forms of racism, predating even colour prejudice.... the jews were an easy mark... anti semitism was rife all over Europe... it was the general opinion in England in the 1930s that hitler's idea of resettling the jews in their own homeland, away from everyone else, was a pretty good idea, and that we should follow suit....

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
He also killed himself and his wife or what ever she was.So I would not say he was too bright!JM

This was probably pretty smart though, he would have died either way so what. At least he could decide for himself.

And saying Hitler wasn't to smart because he didn't win is wrong. C'mon look at the statistics, just compare the number of soldiers of Axis to Allies. He wasn't able to win , of course he made mistakes, he might even have been able to take Britain if he destroyed there navy, but every GEneral makes mistakes, and it might have looked a much better choice to bomb cities at the moment.

I can't disargee with that.JM

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
He also killed himself and his wife or what ever she was.So I would not say he was too bright!JM

I know that is why I said who ever she was.Was she his girlfriend?JM

Yes, I suppose.

Why did he kill her before killing himself?JM

Well cause he didn't want to live in a world where he wasn't powerful and unpure people running around with the same rights, he probably thought he did her a favor.

eva braun was ugly 😖

since he had so much power, y didnt he get a prettier one?? he loved her? lol hard 2 believe

Hitlers major mistake was to break their treaty and attack the Soviet Union

Originally posted by A4E
eva braun was ugly 😖

since he had so much power, y didnt he get a prettier one?? he loved her? lol hard 2 believe

Why?

Finti, I don'T think rto break the treaty was stupid, just to attack them during winter was a bad move.

Eva Braun was his wife. They were married in a cerimony that took place just a few hours before commiting suicide together.