Black Panther Vs Spiderman

Originally posted by Never
>>>Give me an excerpt from a handbook that states if Spidey judges from the strength of the sensation in a certain area, he cannot tell for certain that the attack will come from that area.

Um, ONE, "judges from the strength of the sensation in a certain area?" What's this supposed to mean? If his big toe tingles from his spidey sense that means an attack is coming from the right?

Err...the sensation is located in his head, period. The sensation's intensity varies with the intensity of the threat. It does NOT tell him WHERE the threat comes from. Do you OWN any Spidey comics? As a matter of fact, if you DO, I'll quote several examples this evening from some of Mcfarlane's run to SHOW you.

>>>And I didn't make Spidey dodging bullets at point blank range up. I know this from an actual link of an image on another post that clearly shows Spidey dodging gunshots fired by SWAT team officers. And I don't have proof that you would find credible on the matter of Spidey running up to speeds of a 100 mph. I heard that he had had a speed upgrade from the usual 70 mph. This and the Hulk running up to speeds of 700 mph were claimed to be listed in the Marvel handbook guide. That's all I can tell you.

So...I can arbitrarily say that Black Panther runs at 100mph also, and that's gospel? I don't think so. Surely a Spidey fan such as yourself can quote ONE instance from ONE comic book where SOMEONE says that Spiderman runs at 100mph. Can you even QUOTE a picture? LoL @ "I heard that he got an upgrade from 70mph." He NEVER ran that fast, and Hulk NEVER ran at speeds upwards of 700mph.

>>>And BP would not tag Spidey when he put on the speed. Using his reflexes (30-40 times faster than that of a human), speed (superhuman speed that is, no skippin' around that), superior agility, durability, the spider sense, superior endurance, superior will, there's just so many ways Spidey could win using these abilities to their full extent.

And you are making all of this up as well. His bio (MARVEL UNIVERSE) says 15x that of a human's. You say 30-40x. Is this some random number that you created? Or you "heard he had an upgrade" also?

"Superior will?" I'd love to see you TRY to prove that.

>>>And personally I'm glad you're not here to impress me, because you haven't in the least.

Difficult to impress know-it-alls, correct? And by providing us with sources that back up your every claim, you certainly "know it all."

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>>>Myriad ways huh ? Blind him ? Good one lol. How about this way: Spider-Man sees him and knocks him out with ONE punch. Now THAT is a plausible scenario.

No one has ever gotten the jump on BP and "knocked him out with one punch."

Same thing with Batman (and I mention him as they are similar).

Nice try. Actually...not really...

Let me provide an example. Pete is in a boxing match. It's the first round, Pete stands in spot and is looking left and right at the crowds and stuff, he's entranced. All of a sudden the spider sense flashes, he knows an attack is coming, he turns to his right side, the sensation grows stronger, and Pete knows the attack will come from the right.

And you may have stomped me on the issue of Spidey running up to speeds of 100 mph, but you haven't exactly presented an argument other than "no he can't." to the contrary.

And I'm not making up the whole thing about him having reflexes 30-40 times faster than that of a human. He starts out with reflexes already 15x faster than that of a human, the spider sense provides him with more time to react, thereby accelerating his reaction.

Oh yeah, about the superior will. Ever heard of Revelations, Spidey and GG are really going at it, giving each other their all. Spidey beats the odds however by pushing himself beyond his and GG's expectations.

When he was fighting Thanos, even after he was beaten to within an inch of his life, he did not give up, he prevailed.

When he was fighting Morlun with two broken ribs and having a car drop on him, he still managed to outrun a gas leak in a collapsing building and hold his breath for about ten minutes or so underwater. And even then he came back for the second time in a fight where he was beaten within an inch of his life to prevail in the end.

>>>Don't try to jumble of my words. You know exactly what I mean. Wherever the sensation is strongest is where Spidey knows the attack will come from.

Show me an example from a comic book OR bio where it says this. Or did you just jumble THEIR words?

Just ONE place where someone else OTHER THAN YOU says this.

>>>And you may have stomped me on the issue of Spidey running up to speeds of 100 mph, but you haven't exactly presented an argument other than "no he can't." to the contrary.

You said that he can do it. PROVE it. Not entirely difficult, given the hundreds of Spiderman comics...right?

>>>And I'm not making up the whole thing about him having reflexes 30-40 times faster than that of a human. He starts out with reflexes already 15x faster than that of a human, the spider sense provides him with more time to react, thereby accelerating his reaction.

Ah, if you are not making it up then why does it say IN HIS BIO that his reflexes are quicker by a factor of 15? You are making up the 30-40x faster and just do not want to admit it.

If you are NOT making it up, why is that not listed in a bio OR a comic book? Purely some random figure you created, akin to saying that he can run at speeds of 100mph "since he can jump 30 yards into the air."

His spidersense does not "speed up" as in "augment" his reflexes, it GIVES HIM MORE TIME TO REACT. If I just throw a PUNCH at you I will probably hit you. If I say "psssssssssssst" before I SWING you will be able to dodge it. THAT'S how it works, in essence: it is an early warning system, it does NOT "speed up his reflexes" in that sense.

He does not dodge bullets at point blank range, but will wait on you to prove that one also.

because of the "black power" comment i change mine to spidey.
white power biiiiitch!

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eh, no apologies

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It's really sad when racism contaminates a thread on fictional comic book characters.

People's true colors are really being displayed today.

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indeed.

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Alright, now everyone's starting to get too into the racial thing in here. If anyone feels that strong about it, then take it to the proper forum, but for now, stay on topic.

Originally posted by long pig
because of the "black power" comment i change mine to spidey.
white power biiiiitch!

How this does NOT deserve an instant banning is beyond me.

Cursing is not tolerated but "white power" comments are?

Interesting.

I dont know much about Panther. When i first started in comics as a kid he was my first hero. I drifted to more powerful characters. Does he have the strength of ten men. That's close to 1 ton strenghth. His suit makes him one of the most dangerous men in comics.
It's the webbing that i have a problem with. I've seen Spider web up Juggernaut for God's sake.
Oh yeah, Panther must have an unbreakable grip both in his hand and in an arm lock. Cause that suit absorbs all impact, thus not just directional. If he ever got his hands on Spider, it might well be lights out.

Oh i was just reading up on Black Panther. Because of the soles of his boots he can jump from an 8 story build. and can run up walls. He can't stay stationary on em though. I don't know where spider-man could escape.

If you are really interested in reeducating yourself on Black Panther, might I suggest Priest's run in Marvel Knights (1998, I think)? He did an exemplary job with the character and is primarily responsible for the upgrades that Black Panther received (similar to Grant Morrison's being responsible for elevating Batman to "Batgod" status).

Most agree that, with prep time, the fight would be over pretty quickly, with BP emerging as the victor. It is the impromptu fight that most simply disagree on (as usual).

And...Spidey could simply jump or swing away from Black Panther. That is not much of a problem.

Yes, Christopher Priest's run on Panther is the best source for learning about him. It started out in the Marvel Knights line, but then went into regular Marvel. It lasted 62 issues, with a spin-off The Crew, which had a sort of T'Challa padawan from Harlem in it (along with another BP character and Jim Rhodes!). Also, Geoff Johns run on Avengers (57-76 volume 3) featured Black Panther as a direct continuation from Priest's run.

Originally posted by Never
Most agree that, with prep time, the fight would be over pretty quickly, with BP emerging as the victor.

Spidey avoids traps by brilliant hunters/scientists/villians ALL THE TIME.
I still think it's possible for Black Panther to win, but he can't do it relying
on JUST his skills. Spidey outclasses him phyically in every way.
He'll need some plan or maybe outsmart Spidey (which is NOT easy).
I love it how people constantly under-estimate Spidey's powers.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Somebody who sets up a trap for Spider-Man, now that's something new...

Sorry, Black Panther probably set traps as a 2 year old. He's a tad more advanced than Spidey and setting traps.

Originally posted by Zahit
Spidey avoids traps by brilliant hunters/scientists/villians ALL THE TIME.
I still think it's possible for Black Panther to win, but he can't do it relying
on JUST his skills. Spidey outclasses him phyically in every way.
He'll need some plan or maybe outsmart Spidey (which is NOT easy).
I love it how people constantly under-estimate Spidey's powers.

Not only that, but like you said, he outclasses him physically in every way. I really can not see how BP will beat Spider-Man (6 months of preptime will not be accepted).