Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You don't know anything about Hulk, obviously. Read the thread. I've proven time and time again that Hulk is stronger. Then again, you think Batman can beat the Phoenix...
Ok now you trying to make me look stupid.
It was Batman Gladaitor and Juggernaut. Batman wasnt fighting just thinking while the others fight.
"Wonder Woman gets her strength from Gaea. From what I've heard, she's stronger than Hercules. Hercules is strong enough to support the heavens"
She gets her strengh from the earth via Demeter not Gaea. And she isent as strong as the earth itself either.
" know that Hulk is the strongest bar none "
I know he can get there for some moments while others will fall short. That would be enought for the respect.
Originally posted by Batman Wins
Yup I think Hulks stonger now. (Superman still rocks him in a fight)
Pretty much. Hulk has more strength, but Superman has a lot more speed, and he can fly. He's got two huge advantages.
Originally posted by olympian
Hey CC did you enjoyed Bruce Jones run? I hear alot of hulk fans who didnt because of the changes.
It was a lot of change. Bruce Jones made Hulk a lot less durable than he was intended to be. Peter David is the best Hulk writer.
Originally posted by Jason8200
Superman already beat the Hulk when they fought right before the Amalgam Universe was formed.
Fanbased voting is the worst example of company crossover's which are never canon. . .
I don't really have an opinion on who wuold beat who here, but let's not use bad sources in our arguments. . .
hulk could get stronger than anyone, it's the law
Superman and the hulk start from the same level, but Superman's strenght can't increase while hulk's strenght can increase with no limits
proof :
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f51/t354306.html
enjoy
Superman.
Look, Superman will beat all the guys on the list. For one Superman is not a flying strong guy. He has other Super abilities that he would use to beat them, Like he already did. As far as Goku goes...I think the whole Dragon Ball Z thing is weak. All they do is scream and fire blast that take three shows to go off.
Thor is magical and is a awsome fighter. But superman is stronger and faster and he is worthy to hold Thors hammer. Thor throws his hammer, Superman dodges then hits thor 1000 times at super speed. End fight.
Hulk gets mad at pretty blue man thows a building at him Superman takes the hit from the building to shield the folks aroiund him. Flies at Hulk at mock speeds and throws him into space and waits for the hulk to pass out. Then rescues Bruce Banner before he pops in space.
Bottom line. He is Superman. Super.
"As far as Goku goes...I think the whole Dragon Ball Z thing is weak. All they do is scream and fire blast that take three shows to go off. "
No. This is like watching Flash run in a page. Does that means he takes the whole pages to do the feats instead of seconds? Forget the anime. Read the comic and you see - those - fights as they wer originaly written and draw. In seconds. Instant attacks. Thats what DBZ is.
"Thor is magical and is a awsome fighter. But superman is stronger and faster and he is worthy to hold Thors hammer"
Faster yes. Stronger no, theyr rougly the same. Worthy? By the "cannon" meeting of both universes he isent. ( your talking Marvel Thor i suposse).
"Flies at Hulk at mock speeds and throws him into space and waits for the hulk to pass out"
Theres a reason top hero fliers dont usually do that against Top non fliers heroes. It usually doenst work. Why? See Death of Superman. Or check the fight Gladiator had against the Hulk.
"Bottom line. He is Superman. Super."
And Captain marvel is the worlds most powerful mortal.
And Hulk is incredible.
And Thor is the God of Thunder.
Oh and Spiderman is amazing.
Originally posted by olympian
"As far as Goku goes...I think the whole Dragon Ball Z thing is weak. All they do is scream and fire blast that take three shows to go off. "No. This is like watching Flash run in a page. Does that means he takes the whole pages to do the feats instead of seconds? Forget the anime. Read the comic and you see - those - fights as they wer originaly written and draw. In seconds. Instant attacks. Thats what DBZ is.
"Thor is magical and is a awsome fighter. But superman is stronger and faster and he is worthy to hold Thors hammer"
Faster yes. Stronger no, theyr rougly the same. Worthy? By the "cannon" meeting of both universes he isent. ( your talking Marvel Thor i suposse).
"Flies at Hulk at mock speeds and throws him into space and waits for the hulk to pass out"
Theres a reason top hero fliers dont usually do that against Top non fliers heroes. It usually doenst work. Why? See Death of Superman. Or check the fight Gladiator had against the Hulk.
"Bottom line. He is Superman. Super."
And Captain marvel is the worlds most powerful mortal.
And Hulk is incredible.
And Thor is the God of Thunder.
Oh and Spiderman is amazing.
Your arguments are weak. Superman flew many times at Doomsday who is almost equal to the Hulk. Superman actually held Thor's Hammer and Captain America's Shield. He is definately worthy. He is Superman.
"Your arguments are weak. Superman flew many times at Doomsday who is almost equal to the Hulk. Superman actually held Thor's Hammer and Captain America's Shield. He is definately worthy. He is Superman"
They are so weak you didnt countered a single one.
Yes Superman flew at Doomsday many times. Good. Did he beat him that way? No. thats my point.
Jla/Avengers: He didnt held any hammer. Thor threw at him and he used it in a time of need. Later after the danger passed, he tried to lift it and he couldnt. reason? he used it to overcome the danger but hes not worthy to posesses like Thor does.
About captain Americas shiled..what? You need any special subscription to use the sheld now? Any magic enchantment to overcome? Anyone can held the shiled and use it.
"is definately worthy. He is Superman"
Worthy of what the hammer? No he isent. That is name is Superman i already know.
Originally posted by olympian
"hulk could get stronger than anyone, it's the law"Then Thor and Herc dont quite follow the law since they never had a taste of the so called infinity strenght.
Every top hero have impossible feats.
"Dost the beast's strength know no limits!?" - Thor, who is lying beaten and bloody on the ground in 'The Mighty Thor' #385
No, Thor. It doesn't.
Hulk has become leagues stronger than Thor, and Hercules, and he has beaten the crud out of both. Hulk's strength doesn't have any limits to it, whatsoever. It seems that it is impossible to prove this to you.
"Dost the beast's strength know no limits!?" - Thor, who is lying beaten and bloody on the ground in 'The Mighty Thor' #385"
And he got up again.......didnt he? A person beaten its when its in the ground and doesnt get up.
"Hulk has become leagues stronger than Thor, and Hercules, and he has beaten the crud out of both"
When one of them shows beaten ill admit. So far the Hulk has put Thor - down- but not beaten. Herc without being leagues weaker never lost either. So no, he hasent proved hes league above both so far.
Its not impossible to prove. When i see him -strengh for strengh -cleaning these two like they wer nothing and doing the same against Skyfathers and the such then i get a better idea of his limitess strenght.
Originally posted by olympian
"Dost the beast's strength know no limits!?" - Thor, who is lying beaten and bloody on the ground in 'The Mighty Thor' #385"And he got up again.......didnt he? A person beaten its when its in the ground and doesnt get up.
"Hulk has become leagues stronger than Thor, and Hercules, and he has beaten the crud out of both"
When one of them shows beaten ill admit. So far the Hulk has put Thor - down- but not beaten. Herc without being leagues weaker never lost either. So no, he hasent proved hes league above both so far.
Its not impossible to prove. When i see him -strengh for strengh -cleaning these two like they wer nothing and doing the same against Skyfathers and the such then i get a better idea of his limitess strenght.
No, he didn't get back up. He lost the fight. So now a fight is only over when your opponent is dead? Well, that almost happened to Herc.
Can you actually prove that Hercules was depowered when he fought Hulk, or is that just your assumption?
For the record, Hercules has never come close to beating Hulk. First time, Hercules feared for his life, and it took all of the Avengers to get Hulk off of Herc. The second time, Herc was beaten near death. Daddy had to save him.
You should try being a little more realistic. Hulk doesn't fight Skyfathers, and most of Hulk's feats of strength are shown outside of battle. If the Hulk's writers say that he possesses limitless capacity for strength, who are you to say that he doesn't?