Originally posted by Accel
Not really. Flash can beat either Superman or Hulk in a fight, but that doesn't mean he's stronger than either one. You're not too far off with the dumbbell statement. We were comparing strength feats mostly, like Superman holding a black hole in his hand or Hulk separating the matter-antimatter attraction.
Ohh.
By the way, what's separating the matter-antimatter attraction? i'm 😕
Okay. Then howz about ol' green guy is lifting a 150 billion ton mountain when suddenly the whole earth moves(Supes is movin it) an the mountain falls on Hulk squashing him...okay 4get that. Compare Superman bein able to move a planet(which he did and not the example in the story i just cooked up) vs Hulk lifting a mountain(which he did and again not the example in the story i just cooked up)
And there is no way a guy like hulk or Supes can lift a neutron star or a black hole. A black hole isn't something which can be lifted. Besides, even going near it is a death sentence coz even light can't escape its gravity. And as for the neutron star, Hulk can't even survive in space.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Okay. Then howz about ol' green guy is lifting a 150 billion ton mountain when suddenly the whole earth moves(Supes is movin it) an the mountain falls on Hulk squashing him...okay 4get that. Compare Superman bein able to move a planet(which he did and not the example in the story i just cooked up) vs Hulk lifting a mountain(which he did and again not the example in the story i just cooked up)And there is no way a guy like hulk or Supes can lift a neutron star or a black hole. A black hole isn't something which can be lifted. Besides, even going near it is a death sentence coz even light can't escape its gravity. And as for the neutron star, Hulk can't even survive in space.
Hulk didn't perform the antimatter feat in space either. He pushed apart two balls that were held together by the matter-antimatter force.
am sure you all know who joe casey is right; an author for both dc and marvel comics, who has writen the hulk and superman comics alot in his carrer as a comic book writer. well this is what he had to say in an interview
Joe Casey: Able To Leap Tall Buildings In A Single Bound
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Interview by R.J. Carter
Published: January 1, 2002
At the House of Ideas, he’s the new captain of the Uncanny X-Men. Meanwhile, at DC, he’s one of the fab four charting the course for the Superman. Handling two high-profile books like that makes Joe Casey busier than a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest. Fortunately for us, he was able to spare a few moments to chat via e-mail about comics, rock and roll, and--keeping with this month’s theme--Superman.
You were in a Rock-N-Roll band? Tell us about that.
I've been playing in bands since I was 14 years old. Still am.
Do you still play? Maybe get together with other musicians in the comics industry for little jam sessions? (I'm thinking specifically of the band Bill Mumy and some others play in, "Seduction Of The Innocents".)
An industry jam session… this sounds frightening and horrible. I prefer recording and gigging with my own band.
What's the name of the band, and how often (and in what venues) might people see them playing?
The Sellouts. Playing at a sleazy Hollywood club near you...
When did you become introduced to comics as a fan, and what made you want to become a player in the industry?
Comic books were some of the first things I ever remember reading as a young kid. We're talking pre-school age, here. And I just never stopped. As for becoming a "player in the industry", I just do my job the best I can and try to let the work speak for itself. That's the only thing I have real control over, so that's what I tend to concentrate on.
Your first published comic work is the second issue of Wolverine: Days Of Future Past. How difficult was it to make your first impression by taking over a plot already created by somebody else?
Well, that was the first mainstream work that appeared on the stands, but I'd already written a few issues of Cable at that point, they just ended up being released after the Wolverine gig. At that point, I wasn't even thinking about the challenge of scripting over someone else's plot. I was just happy to have the work.
X-Men: Children of the Atom: Such a great retelling of the formative years of the team. Yet it seems to have faded away, while X:Men: The Hidden Years--published simultaneously, and using pretty much the same concept--is still there. What were you aiming for in COTA, and who moved the target away?
I don't think it faded away at all. X-Men: COTA was always designed to be a finite mini-series (one that's being collected in a trade paperback this fall). What I did was, I feel, light years apart from what John Byrne is doing in The Hidden Years book. My goal was to tell a coming of age story about realistic teenagers (who were also the original X-Men characters) that the audience could identify with. I think it worked pretty well. It certainly sold well, critical reaction was the best I'd had in my career up to that point, and certain folks at Marvel who appreciated what I did with ended up running the company. That support came in handy, because now I'm writing the regular book, Uncanny X-Men. Things worked out pretty well, I'd say…
In an interview about Mr Majestic, you stated, speaking of the characters with whining and pontificating attitudes that: "There should be characters like that in comics. Not every one should be like that; there are definitely characters that lend themselves to more emotional exploration. But for Mr. Majestic - that's how I'd want Superman to be played. I wouldn't want a character like that to be sitting around angst-ing about what he's doing all the time." Is that how you get to play Superman now that you have him?
That is how I play Superman. I don't like characters that constantly whine. I like that Superman is primarily a man of action. His morals are concrete… he rarely needs to examine them. Of course, in the occasional storyline where he does pause and consider the overall ramifications and the emotions involved in his actions, it just makes for a more powerful story, simply because he's not prone to doing it every month. With Superman, I tend to save the "angst" for special occasions.
Yet, Uncanny X-Men is the most notorious title when it comes to angst-ridden characters. Will that change under your command?
Being angst-ridden and whining about it don't necessarily have to go hand-in-hand. Rest assured, there'll be plenty of good ol' angst in the book. They just won't "emote" quite so much...
You have your hands on Superman--inarguably the most valuable piece of superhero real estate in all comic book history. What do you plan to do with him--that DC will let you get away with--that hasn't been done before?
I don't worry about what I can "get away with". I just want to tell good Superman stories that add to the legend, not detract from it.
Our Worlds At War: Why is this new series *NOT* like Zero Hour or Crisis?
Simply put, we're telling a STORY, not trying to fix any continuity glitches. That makes all the difference.
I'm seeing Kryptonian names appearing in the promos: General Zod. Faora. Is OWAW spinning out of the recent "Return To Krypton"?
There are connections, but I've sworn not to give too much away at this point. You'll have to read the books this summer to find out how deep the connection does--or doesn't--go.
What's going to be different in the DC Universe when the War is over?
The change in Superman will be obvious. VERY obvious. There'll be an emotional and a cosmetic change.
A cosmetic change in Superman? After growing his hair, cutting his hair, becoming an electrical being, becoming twin electrical beings... Can Superman handle yet another change in appearance? What kind of fan reaction are you anticipating from this?
Who knows? You can never predict fan response to any kind of change. All I can say is, it's a direct cause of the events in Our Worlds At War and we're all pretty happy with the development in Superman's character.
You've written both Incredible Hulk and Adventures of Superman. Who is the "strongest one there is?"
Superman, without a doubt. He'd beat the Hulk from here to Metropolis and back.
Originally posted by Accel
Superman didn't 'lift' a black hole, he held it in his hand.Hulk didn't perform the antimatter feat in space either. He pushed apart two balls that were held together by the matter-antimatter force.
U must be talkin bout Pre-crisis Supes and a Hulk whose anger is set at levels which were used to fight onslaught right??
BTW, which balls did he push apart, his own😆.
I was just jokin, don't take it seriously.
Originally posted by 56857
joe casey is talking about the current incarnation of superman which has also beaton hulk in the 1998 marvel dc crossover comic
Let me get this straight...Supes as he is currently, held a black hole. U serious right?
Dat means dat Pre-crisis Supes would have had thrown a black hole if what ur sayin is true
This one?
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg
It says the BH was never released. That was the struggle. Stopping it from being released.
Originally posted by olympianIf I remember right the pull sucked the machine into the hole. That's why Supes grabbed it.
"Superman didn't 'lift' a black hole, he held it in his hand."The black hole wasent released from the "machinery" Superman was holding. Rigth?
Anyways was this feat shown yet? Supes and WW lifting all of the weight of eternity? They were called two of the mightiest of ALL universes.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/jlaspectresoulwarwwliftspectre.jpg
Originally posted by olympian
This one?http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg
It says the BH was never released. That was the struggle. Stopping it from being released.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
If I remember right the pull sucked the machine into the hole. That's why Supes grabbed it.Anyways was this feat shown yet? Supes and WW lifting all of the weight of eternity? They were called two of the mightiest of ALL universes.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/jlaspectresoulwarwwliftspectre.jpg
